What are your current feelings about Solipsism?

[decentralized]

I have experienced Solipsism on ketamine several times (haven’t touched 5-MeO yet) but stopped taking any psychedelics since almost 2 years. I’m curious on what you feel about Solipsism at this moment, I’m especially curious on what your current take is, @Leo Gura.

 

[PurpleTree]

I think it’s probably an egoic trap.

[RendHeaven]

Ket is a dissociative that chemically numbs and isolates you. Don't put too much stock into it.

Though 'solipsism' is true, it doesn't preclude genuine togetherness and communion amongst humans.

You're here to love and share, and that's real while you're here.

[decentralized]

9 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I think it’s probably an egoic trap.

That’s what I want to believe. 
 

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, decentralized said:

That’s what I want to believe. 
 

There’s no you imo. So that kind of makes solipsism no bueno.

[decentralized]

3 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

Ket is a dissociative that chemically numbs and isolates you. Don't put too much stock into it.

Though 'solipsism' is true, it doesn't preclude genuine togetherness and communion amongst humans.

You're here to love and share, and that's real while you're here.

I’m not antisocial, I can connect well with humans though there’s room for improvement. I want to experience deep divine love with a man however that person doesn’t magically appear my life, and even if I will come across him in this lifetime, I will have another breakdown knowing that I am imagining him and he’s not real. 
During my psychosis/awakening I was thinking that I am the feminine side (yin) of existence and he is the masculine side. And we complement each other and have to be together. However right now, from God’s POV, I feel like no one can complement me because I’m both yin and yang. I just forgot my yang side. Idk if that makes sense. 

[decentralized]

@PurpleTree from what I understand you are saying that decentralized is an illusion. Is God an illusion as well? I mean isn’t God = Nothingness? 

If God is Nothingness, how is she constructing this dream called life? 

[RendHeaven]

3 minutes ago, decentralized said:

I want to experience deep divine love with a man

understandable

3 minutes ago, decentralized said:

however that person doesn’t magically appear my life

he could, if you enhance presentation + feminine glow + put yourself out there

4 minutes ago, decentralized said:

and even if I will come across him in this lifetime, I will have another breakdown knowing that I am imagining him and he’s not real. 

If he's momentarily real to you, no matter how fleeting, that counts.

Stop trying to make him eternally concrete. Fleeting things are the most beautiful.

6 minutes ago, decentralized said:

During my psychosis/awakening I was thinking that I am the feminine side (yin) of existence and he is the masculine side. And we complement each other and have to be together.

This is somewhat accurate. But the yang could frankly be any guy with the right energy signature (thousands of candidates). He's not special

8 minutes ago, decentralized said:

However right now, from God’s POV

You don't have God's POV right now.

8 minutes ago, decentralized said:

I feel like no one can complement me because I’m both yin and yang. I just forgot my yang side. Idk if that makes sense. 

Also somewhat accurate. Stop trying to "find your other half."

Date for the thrill of polarity and mutual sharing of self expression. Enough with chasing completion.

8 minutes ago, decentralized said:

But I can only experience @decentralized at this moment. I deeply know that this self is an illusion. Just like anything else.
How do I experience infinity without drugs and without having another psychotic breakdown? 

It doesn't sound like you need more Infinity.

Embrace the limited, flawed, fleeting, and human. There is real love to be found here.

[PurpleTree]

15 minutes ago, decentralized said:

@PurpleTree from what I understand you are saying that decentralized is an illusion. Is God an illusion as well? I mean isn’t God = Nothingness? 

If God is Nothingness, how is she constructing this dream called life? 

I think it’s unknowable, you will never know it because there is no you to know anything really. Everything that you can come up with is part of the dream. 

[Breakingthewall]

The problem is that the whole idea of "you are God imagining reality" is false in every way. What does "imagining" mean? Creating images out of nothing? What does "images" mean? All these ideas are relative; they shrink infinity to make it manageable by the conceptual mind. It's low-cost fast-food spirituality that simplifies everything into concepts understandable to a basic, structured mind. In short: religion.

[decentralized]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The problem is that the whole idea of "you are God imagining reality" is false in every way. What does "imagining" mean? Creating images out of nothing? What does "images" mean? All these ideas are relative; they shrink infinity to make it manageable by the conceptual mind. It's low-cost fast-food spirituality that simplifies everything into concepts understandable to a basic, structured mind. In short: religion.

What is truth according to you? What does your direct experience tell you?

[RendHeaven]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The problem is that the whole idea of "you are God imagining reality" is false in every way.

Not quite. That's a very appropriate metaphor for the actual process by which observable reality is configured into being.

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What does "imagining" mean?

willing into being by imbuing the unreal with realness

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

All these ideas are relative;

not ideas

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

they shrink infinity to make it manageable by the conceptual mind.

yes, that's a natural limit of communication between humans

[Hojo]

@decentralized God having a form is the illusion.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, decentralized said:

@PurpleTree from what I understand you are saying that decentralized is an illusion. Is God an illusion as well? I mean isn’t God = Nothingness? 

If God is Nothingness, how is she constructing this dream called life? 

God is not nothingness, the source of reality is openenss. It's not something nor nothing, it's absence of limitations. From that infinite dimensions inevitably arise. They never begun and just now you are that. 

You can't understand the source of reality positively, if you do, it isn't. 

The path of negation inevitably leads to limitlessness as the foundation of everything. It is not being, not consciousness, not unity, not emptiness, not totality, not witness. It is absolute openness, non-obstruction, the unnameable that allows all forms without being any. From this arise being, non-being, consciousness, love, life, death, intelligence, god, as relative manifestations. 

Being is relative, without relation there is not being. Not being is so real than being, but being is, let's say, evident. Being is just appearance, same than god. Appearance means something that arises. Even it arises always, its relative. The only absolute is limitlessness . Not being are the infinite potential relationships that are not possible, being are what are possible 

Then, to be one with your nature you have to detach yourself totally from everything, even from being and conciousness. What you are is no limit, anything else is a relation that arises from this . Even the infinite being is just an arising, a consequence not a cause. There are infinite infinites, and all of them are relative 

Edited May 31 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, decentralized said:

What is truth according to you? What does your direct experience tell you?

If with truth you mean your ultimate nature, truth is openenss . Imagine absolute openness as a blank sheet of paper without borders, without paper, without background, without ink. And yet, because there are no borders, the line appears, as if the openness itself were drawing itself infinitely. The draw is the being, it's always and we are that, but it's a consequence, a manifestation. What we really are is the depth, the unlimited. 

Watch anything, listen anything, that is relation, and relation is being, that's the manifestation of the unlimited, it's essence manifested . 

[PurpleTree]

I mean you can call this direct immediacy God. No problem. But i don’t think you‘ll ever really know anything about god. Knowledge doesn’t really help you here imo. It kind of hinders.

[Yeah Yeah]

I'm going to share my own idea here real quick and short bro ... I make the claim honestly right this moment that I personally do indeed exist, I know it and I'll get and act offended if anyone denies it as themselves being the only aware one since I know I am truly aware this moment ... so if you or anyone else is sitting there and reading this text thinking they have their own experience just as much as I do, then that clears the solipsism myth as not accurate enough ... Like I know I exist watch I can add an emoji of a piano 🎹 see and if you DM me I'll respond and convince you I am real because I am so if anyone else can relate reading this then that answers the question. Like I know I exist I'm convinced I am not an NPC I have the free will to move my arm or anything, I know i am alive so if you have your own experience and relate to this post there are two of us 

Edited May 31 by Yeah Yeah

[Salvijus]

23 minutes ago, Yeah Yeah said:

I'm going to share my own idea here real quick and short bro ... I make the claim honestly right this moment that I personally do indeed exist, I know it and I'll get and act offended if anyone denies it as themselves being the only aware one since I know I am truly aware this moment ... so if you or anyone else is sitting there and reading this text thinking they have their own experience just as much as I do, then that clears the solipsism myth as not accurate enough ... Like I know I exist watch I can add an emoji of a piano 🎹 see and if you DM me I'll respond and convince you I am real because I am so if anyone else can relate reading this then that answers the question. Like I know I exist I'm convinced I am not an NPC I have the free will to move my arm or anything, I know i am alive so if you have your own experience and relate to this post there are two of us 

I'm real also. Even tho saying that doesn't necessarily prove anything, I felt like saying it anyways. 

Edited May 31 by Salvijus

[Oppositionless]

Solipsism as a "fact" is a trap. Epistemic solipsism is just the realization of Faith. Faith isn't belief in God, it's the necessary step out of solipsism. 

Edited May 31 by Oppositionless

[PurpleTree]

5 hours ago, Yeah Yeah said:

I'm going to share my own idea here real quick and short bro ... I make the claim honestly right this moment that I personally do indeed exist, I know it and I'll get and act offended if anyone denies it as themselves being the only aware one since I know I am truly aware this moment ... so if you or anyone else is sitting there and reading this text thinking they have their own experience just as much as I do, then that clears the solipsism myth as not accurate enough ... Like I know I exist watch I can add an emoji of a piano 🎹 see and if you DM me I'll respond and convince you I am real because I am so if anyone else can relate reading this then that answers the question. Like I know I exist I'm convinced I am not an NPC I have the free will to move my arm or anything, I know i am alive so if you have your own experience and relate to this post there are two of us 

That’s what an NPC would say.