Post-Nut Clarity Without the Nut? A Serious Question About Quitting PMO

[lfvd95]

I've been wrestling with something deeply personal, and I’m hoping someone out there has either gone through the same thing—or has insight that can help.

I’m trying to quit pornography and masturbation. Not just for the usual reasons—dopamine addiction, shame, energy loss, whatever. But because I know it's keeping me from becoming the man I want to be.

That said, there’s one thing I do find genuinely useful about masturbation: post-nut clarity.

It sounds crude, but I think most men will know what I mean. After release, suddenly your mind clears. Your emotions calm down. That girl you were obsessing over? Not so important. That stupid thing you were about to do? Clearly dumb now. It's like, for a moment, you wake up.

The problem is: I’ve come to depend on that moment of clarity to make good decisions. Without it, I sometimes feel like I'm living in a fog of impulsive desire or emotional confusion. I act without thinking. I fall into fantasy, longing, confusion. I can’t tell what’s real or important. It’s like there’s a “pre-nut delusion” state that clouds my mind—and the only way out is release.

But if I keep using masturbation just to get that clarity, then I’m still dependent. Still feeding the cycle.

So here’s my question—open and honest:

Is there a way to achieve that same post-nut clarity without porn or masturbation?

Can it be trained? Transformed? Substituted?

Is there a process—mental, physical, spiritual—that helps you come back to yourself, back to clarity, without needing to "relieve" yourself?

I’m not just looking for a hack. I want to change this part of myself—this dependency. But I also don’t want to be deluded, to act rashly, or to keep hurting myself and others with impulsive behavior or decisions.

If you’ve been through this, if you’ve found alternatives that truly work, or if you know a path of transformation that leads to real clarity and peace—I’d deeply appreciate your insight.

[Sandhu]

Meditation for mental calmness, sharpness and clarity.  Remove triggers from your space to abstain from masturbation. Exercise daily. Work on self-esteem

[Hojo]

I think when you first wake up in the morning to get up and close your eyes and try to keep thoughts out of your head for an hour but stay awake.

I was watching a youtube video and the guy said something that I didnt realize. Men dont actually want to have sex. They have a build up of energy that constantly needs to be released and what they are actually after is the release of the energy they didnt want, and its after cumming that they want which is just a moment to not be haunted by the thoughts of sex constantly.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Caveat - not a dude so no direct advice, this is from one of my good friends 

Good mate can orgasm without the release.

This is from him:

'I start with a meditation session centred on breath. I centre on breathing the duration. On exhales I focus on feeling and moving perception to energy in my crotch. I keep moving into this energy on exhale until I reach a full body orgasm. The exhale (release) and focus on heightened sexual energy to my groin brings on a full body shuddering orgasm eventually. Just keep it slow and rhythmic. Focus on sexual energy charging to your dick. Happened to me spontaneously one day, took a few more go's to replicate and now I can perform the act whenever. Much more intense and satisfying than masturbation or sex with a women. You get the nut clarity after also, bonus.'

[BlessedLion]

What a synchronized event, I’m literally prepping a video for this exact topic. 
 

Here is the prelude to it 

 

 

TLDR:

First you must acknowledge the power of sexual energy. It is a much stronger force than we give credit to. That post-nut clarity? There are deep evolutionary reasons for it. 

The goal is not to to get rid of this energy, it is a GIFT! We must learn to pivot it and turn it into an engine the powers our steamboat to greatness. 
 

Your sexual energy is like Niagara Falls, and all your nofap, meditation, and celibacy vows are like trying to put a rock in front of Niagara Falls to stop it. Good luck.

 

Instead, make Niagara Falls work for you. Direct Niagara Falls towards your vision. Allow the sexual energy to flow you through you like a super power- because it is. 
 

Once you get over that “drive” to release, you have harnessed your sexual energy and become an unstoppable force with literally “the power of nature” behind you. 
 

Fuck “post nut clarity”, go with “full nut clarity” 

[Butters]

On 4-6-2025 at 6:24 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Caveat - not a dude so no direct advice, this is from one of my good friends 

Good mate can orgasm without the release.

This is from him:

'I start with a meditation session centred on breath. I centre on breathing the duration. On exhales I focus on feeling and moving perception to energy in my crotch. I keep moving into this energy on exhale until I reach a full body orgasm. The exhale (release) and focus on heightened sexual energy to my groin brings on a full body shuddering orgasm eventually. Just keep it slow and rhythmic. Focus on sexual energy charging to your dick. Happened to me spontaneously one day, took a few more go's to replicate and now I can perform the act whenever. Much more intense and satisfying than masturbation or sex with a women. You get the nut clarity after also, bonus.'

So just awareness on the breath, and energy going down that is all? I wonder how horny you'd have to be to make this work but I'll try. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Butters

I wish I had more to tell you! 

But the long and short of it was just breath and attempting to guide the flow of sexual charge. The horniness seemed to rise naturally during meditation. But focusing on that exhale and release, coupled with feeling and moving the energy to your dick seemed key. 

Sorry to be so crude haha. 

But the lack of ejaculation prevented the feeling of sexual depletion, while also giving clarity. Imagine that clarity but with the charge of a stallion you can work with. 

I am a woman so I dont have direct experience, but I have always had the ability to lay flat on the ground, focus on breathing, and feel energy as a form of pressure in my body. I can move this around at will. I've never tried to push it to anything more but it would be an interesting experiment. It feels like sexual charge.

@BlessedLion I agree influence and command of sexual energy is bang on! I think abstinence is a bit extreme, maybe others use it as a tool to establish a connection with their sexual energy? Maybe releasing dulls the connection so it works to abstain for a bit to gain familiarity. After a time it is no longer needed? No idea 

 Just my random thoughts as I drink coffee on the balcony, as the sun rises 🙏

 

[Majed]

@lfvd95 Oh you know everytime i finish eating i have a post hunger clarity. As well as a post thirst clarity when i want to drink water. I was wondering if there was a way to become the man that i want to become with quitting eating and drinking. 

[Butters]

4 hours ago, Majed said:

@lfvd95 Oh you know everytime i finish eating i have a post hunger clarity. As well as a post thirst clarity when i want to drink water. I was wondering if there was a way to become the man that i want to become with quitting eating and drinking. 

Are you saying you don't experience post-nut clarity? I've noticed that horniness can hijack my system way harder than hunger or thirst. Like corrupt my thoughts, it's not the same.

I'd love a way to maintain the sexual energy without the lust corruption. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 hours ago, Butters said:

Are you saying you don't experience post-nut clarity? I've noticed that horniness can hijack my system way harder than hunger or thirst. Like corrupt my thoughts, it's not the same.

I'd love a way to maintain the sexual energy without the lust corruption. 

I read it as snarky sarcasm that wasn't constructive tbh, but tone is fucked through text.

Edited June 7 by Natasha Tori Maru

[Majed]

@Butters I don't experience post nut clarity. I think it is because i accepted masturbation as something natural in my life. It brings me a bunch of pleasure and after i nut i don't experience clarity i experience satisfaction. I think post nut clarity comes from how you frame masturbation in your mind and life. If you expect yourself to masturbate and jerk off around one time a day then it becomes normal, not something weird. (Sometimes you're gonna jerk off twice a day, other times there will be a day you won't jerk off... don't be too rigid with the 1 time a day, i said approximately). 

Edited June 8 by Majed

[BlessedLion]

posted, hope this helps 

[BlessedLion]

@Natasha Tori Maru Love the imagery of contemplating with coffee and a sun rise 🥰

 

For sure, I think if someone has an addictive relationship with it, a period of abstinence can be powerful. Otherwise it’s too easy to get pulled back into those old habits. However, I am very much against repressing, demonizing, or neglecting sexual energy in any way. It is to be celebrated and enjoyed, the key is not releasing it, depleting it, but circulating and directing it. Having a more sacred relationship to it, I feel 

[Schizophonia]

Meditation, at worst medication (neuroleptics ?)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

posted, hope this helps 

Great video - subscribed!

I won't derail further BUT WHAT IS THIS TURBO PROJECTOR A/V CINEMA SEAT shit, get around it! Your set-up DESTROYS mine, and I thought I was a bit more into A/V systems than most! Do you use a universal remote? Hot topic  Here's a snap of my area (below)

But back on topic - I perceive sexual energy at the very core and base of creative power. I cannot actually perceive any sort of separation in the energy between sexual, and creative - even problem solving. Just levels of power. 

 

Edited June 11 by Natasha Tori Maru

[BlessedLion]

@Natasha Tori Maru Haha I wish I could take credit for the theatre set up, I’m visiting my parents, it’s my Dads - he’s a mega nerd on that whole world. 
 

Yours looks awesome though- super cozy! Gotta have a dope entertainment set up 🔥

Thanks for subscribing  

 

Regarding the sexual energy I totally agree , it all intertwines and morphs into itself, we can’t actually separate it as it’s “own energy” 

I’m actually starting to think our sexual nature builds reality the way we see it. Like why trees, rooms and people are perceived the way they are- I think it’s deeply merged with the Eros energy. Always love your insights 🙏

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, BlessedLion said:

@Natasha Tori Maru Haha I wish I could take credit for the theatre set up, I’m visiting my parents, it’s my Dads - he’s a mega nerd on that whole world. 
 

Yours looks awesome though- super cozy! Gotta have a dope entertainment set up 🔥

Thanks for subscribing  

 

Regarding the sexual energy I totally agree , it all intertwines and morphs into itself, we can’t actually separate it as it’s “own energy” 

I’m actually starting to think our sexual nature builds reality the way we see it. Like why trees, rooms and people are perceived the way they are- I think it’s deeply merged with the Eros energy. Always love your insights 🙏

 

Well from one mega-nerd to another - it is a fine battlestation!

The sexual energy topic - what a great conversation and clip to link, as it may assist OP in a wider sense to gain awareness and control of sexual energy, without removing any mechanism of release. 

The more I move through life, the more I find myself learning skills to master energy and matter manipulation & influence. Its been the biggest topic I have been mediating on (as well as thought awareness & psionics, but that is for another post!).

Always a pleasure!

 

[BlessedLion]

21 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

it is a fine battlestation!

I’ll let him know! 😂

[BlessedLion]

21 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The more I move through life, the more I find myself learning skills to master energy and matter manipulation & influence.

Your Jedi skills are improving 👽

 

Thats awesome, it’s truly another world when we become conscious of these more subtle energies and dynamics. Most importantly- how we create reality out of thin air! 

[Basman]

Meditation will help discipline your mind.

If you want to get rid of sexual urges permanently you'll have to snip your balls off. It's easier to just accept your sexuality though. Masturbation is normal and healthy. If you masturbate too much your most likely just bored.

Edited Monday at 06:14 PM by Basman