Humanity Has Failed

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

wasn’t 100 years, prior to Zionism Palestinians lived peacefully with Christian and Jewish minorities. They began trying to resist Zionist occupiers who entered their and started forming militias and terror groups.

The begining of terrorism, in 1920, was from the Arabs because religion

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

A Palestinian attack called the Passover massacre took place on March 27, 2002, the day before the Initiative was published, which initially overshadowed it.

[Raze]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

The begining of terrorism, in 1920, was from the Arabs because religion

No it wasn’t, the first incident of Arab violence was a riot in response to a Zionist Militia marching. Modern day terrorist tactics like hiding bombs in shops etc. were introducing to the region by Zionist’s, one example being king David hotel.

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Raze said:

No it wasn’t, the first incident of Arab violence was a riot in response to a Zionist Militia marching. Modern day terrorist tactics like hiding bombs in shops etc. were introducing to the region by Zionist’s, one example being king David hotel.

 

This is the first documented terrorist attack 

🔹 1920: Nebi Musa Riots

In April 1920, during the Muslim Nebi Musa festival in Jerusalem, Arab nationalists attacked Jewish neighborhoods.

Five Jews were killed and over 200 injured.

 

Edited May 31 by Breakingthewall

[Karmadhi]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, if Nazi Germany was attacked by suicide bombers who killed 1,000 Germans civilians, their sentiment would quickly resemble that of Israelis.

Keep in mind that Nazis hated Jews without Jews even killing any of them.

Imagine the shitstorm there'd be if Jews were doing weekly suicide attacks in Wiemar Germany.

Nazi Germany blamed Jews for their country and government collapsing, its economy collapsing and massive unemployment and disorder

In their minds that was Jewish fault

Such things are far more damaging to a society than a couple hundred dead civilians

Russia just lost over 150 civilians in 1 massacre in a concert hall and they did not lash out in any big way

They blamed Ukraine for it (irrelevant if true) and basically there was no real revenge on Ukraine for it.

I was honestly worried that they would go on killing spree in Ukraine since they openly blamed Ukraine for it, killing thousands of civilians in retaliation yet none of that happened.

Difference!

 

Edited May 31 by Karmadhi

[Raze]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

This is the first documented terrorist attack 

🔹 1920: Nebi Musa Riots

In April 1920, during the Muslim Nebi Musa festival in Jerusalem, Arab nationalists attacked Jewish neighborhoods.

Five Jews were killed and over 200 injured.

 

That was a riot with unclear origins of violence, not a “terror attack”.

Also that was not the beginning. There are letters from religious Zionists saying that they were seeing disrespect and abuse of the local population that was going to lead to conflict as earlier as 1900-1910. In 1919 armed Zionist militias were already doing drills in public chanting and holding banners announcing that all of Palestine would be theirs.

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Raze said:

That was a riot with unclear origins of violence, not a “terror attack”.

Also that was not the beginning. There are letters from religious Zionists saying that they were seeing disrespect and abuse of the local population that was going to lead to conflict as earlier as 1900-1910. In 1919 armed Zionist militias were already doing drills in public chanting and holding banners announcing that all of Palestine would be theirs.

Who knows? The thing is that now Palestinian are full of hate, doing things like the Passover massacre just before and agreement or with this massacre with crowds in the streets cheering the corpses of 20-year-old girls. You can say this is normal, that they're very stressed, etc. It's also normal being bombed after doing that . That's how things are.

Edited May 31 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

was honestly worried that they would go on killing spree in Ukraine since they openly blamed Ukraine for it, killing thousands of civilians in retaliation yet none of that happened.

Difference!

You should wait until the Ukrainian war has 100 years, then you could judge 

[Raze]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Who knows? The thing is that now Palestinian are full of hate, doing things like the Passover massacre just before and agreement or with this massacre with crowds in the streets cheering the corpses of 20-year-old girls. You can say this is normal, that they're very stressed, etc. It's also normal being bombed after doing that . That's how things are.

That’s not “Palestinians”. Passover massacre was carried about by Hamas, at that time a much smaller group during the second intifada when israel was killing, arresting and beating dozens of Palestinians nearly every day.

Israel had weddings where they partied and celebrated by stabbing a photo of a 7 month old baby after Israelis burned him and his parents alive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack#"Wedding_of_Hate"
 

So if bombing is normal, should someone start bombing israel after that? How many thousands of children should be killed? Would it also be normal to block all food and medicine, destroy 90% of buildings, and say you want to expel millions of people, which is what israel is doing to Gaza? 

Edited May 31 by Raze

[gengar]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No, that will be Palestine. Israel is thriving and growing.

Palestine a fuckup by existing before Israel? Israel made it the fuckup it is. You've got a lot of things turned upside down here, buddy. You think you're edgy and cool by not giving a fuck about morals and seeing power as the metric of success, in some fascist social darwinist sense. 

How can you be so sick to call palestine a geopolitical fuckup when it was taken over by other people?

[gengar]

9 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

It could happen when the Muslims accept Israel as a country and the Palestinian start fighting for their rights in a positive way, without violence. If the Muslims persist in gate and negativity, there are two solution, the end of Israel or show them that they can't be expelled because they are strong enough. If Hamas put kids like shields, show them that this is useless . If not what? 

Why would they accept it as a country when it was literally taken from them? should the natives of America have accepted their fate, that some technologically advanced society killed them and took their land?

They have every reason to hate you and your kind. They are put in an open air prison and their land has been taken from them. this is historical fact. Yet you defend the classic liberal bullshit of "oh we are morally superior they are savage" yes you would be savage too if I took your land. Israel has no right to exist. They have every right to commit violence against Israel. 

You will stop spreading disinformation and propaganda when people are being genocided. You're practically an agent of mossad at this point. you fill these threads with the classic vile propaganda points. You have zero right to come here and act spiritual. You are poisoning this place with your genocidal rhetoric. If some Russian came here and spread points about how Ukrainians deserve what they got they would be banned. Yet you persist here. 

This is your final warning. Stop now.

[gengar]

You take the land of a few stage red-blue savages and then go blame them for acting like savages. Purest of evil.

[Twentyfirst]

9 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The first war to destroy Israel was started by a coalition of Arab countries. Many years have passed since then, and there have been more wars and conflicts. The problem for the Arabs is that they have lost the wars. If they had won, everything would be wonderful and the Israelis would have been expelled. But since they lost, they complain a lot, hate a lot, and do nothing more.

Are the Jews victims of the middle east or victors of the middle east...make up your mind

[Twentyfirst]

11 hours ago, hundreth said:

Textbooks is a nice cherry-picking. Very creative.

https://unwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023-Report-UNRWA.pdf

There are countless videos of the Palestinian school system and what they teach.
 

 

 

There is no institutional hate. Because there is no need for it

If you are born into a cage with refugee status, you see an army occupying your land, and you hear stories of your parent and grandparent going through the same thing their entire lives. And you know your children will go through the same thing their entire lives. You know that the Jews are the only thing standing between you and freedom. You will have some disgust for the Jews but also you will just want to make peace

Israel has to teach their kids to hate Arabs because it's manufactured hate on the premise of paranoia. You can still live normal lives. Palestinians don't have to teach hate they just have to show their children photos of all the atrocities committed. It's called telling your children the truth and reality 

[Twentyfirst]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No, that will be Palestine. Israel is thriving and growing.

The British fucked up a lot of countries, including Palestine

The British now are being replaced by the former countries they colonized

Soon they will be a minority in their own land

[Apparition of Jack]

28 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

The British fucked up a lot of countries, including Palestine

The British now are being replaced by the former countries they colonized

Soon they will be a minority in their own land

I doubt it. But modern Britain (as well as every first-world country) will be a lot more multicultural in the future moving forward.

That’s what happens when there’s a global inequality. Poor people move to the uber-wealthy countries. Nature abhors and imbalance.

[Twentyfirst]

14 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

I doubt it. But modern Britain (as well as every first-world country) will be a lot more multicultural in the future moving forward.

That’s what happens when there’s a global inequality. Poor people move to the uber-wealthy countries. Nature abhors and imbalance.

In 30 years all these white countries will have minority native population as long as things continue to trend the way they are trending now

If you are a minority in your own country, it's not your country anymore

[Wilhelm44]

3 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

In 30 years all these white countries will have minority native population as long as things continue to trend the way they are trending now

If you are a minority in your own country, it's not your country anymore

AI type governments might be a solution to all these issues, ie whats the most effective way to run things based on systems theory etc.

[PurpleTree]

8 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

In 30 years all these white countries will have minority native population as long as things continue to trend the way they are trending now

If you are a minority in your own country, it's not your country anymore

So you think they should vote for right wing extremists and kick these immigrants out?

[Twentyfirst]

16 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

So you think they should vote for right wing extremists and kick these immigrants out?

I don't know. I think the governments sold out and are allowing/inviting a soft invasion for whatever reason

I was just replying to what he said about one country being a geopolitical disaster while the other is thriving. Things change quicker than we think and geopolitics may be on a longer time horizon than our minds can grasp. For centuries the British dominated the world and now the very same people they dominated are overtaking them, it's ironic but surprising. Maybe this is how real geopolitics works. Maybe one day the Native Americans will overcome the Americans. Maybe our minds are too small to project that far out into the future or really understand how this all works

For me I don't see the point of immigration, even from a poor country to a rich country. Just live where you are born and visit other places or become a world traveler, but never lose your roots or assimilate into something you are not. Poor countries have their pros and cons just like rich countries. That's just my thoughts