Is this the evolution of polyamory? Aubrey Marcus podcast)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

"When you're concious, love rules you. When you're unconcious, dick rules you." 

Maybe that's a better translation. 

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[Salvijus]

7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

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The story of enlightenment in a nutshell. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

The story of enlightenment in a nutshell. 

I actually cannot stop laughing 

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I actually cannot stop laughing 

Lol, I'm laughing through tears aswell. 

[Salvijus]

Maybe there's a more mellow version of the enlightenment story out there. 

Magdalene standing on a snake. Symbolizing transcendence.

Kundalini snake = penis. 

Edited May 30 by Salvijus

[Grateful Dead]

On 19.5.2025 at 3:45 PM, koops said:

 

Very unpleasant to watch. Aubrey is another false prophet hiding his sick ego behind a spiritual facade. I'm almost a little embarrassed that I only realized this a few years ago and fell for his game for a while. But the podcast is at least very revealing; I hope it helps many people realize what a fraud he is. This has nothing to do with spirituality. These are merely selfish needs and fantasies being acted out, which actually block spiritual progress. 

Thats just my opinion and personally I have no problem with someone wanting to live a polyamorous life, but selling it as spiritual in this way disgusts me.

Just yesterday I saw a video about Osho's cult in which a woman talks about how she was abused there when she was 12 years old and how it was justified through spirituality.

 

[koops]

 

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Monogamy fails. Polyamory fails. Human love fails. Nothing new there.

Human love is full of illusion regardless of who you do it with. That's why I don't have a problem with this.

Exactly!

If they 'fail' they will be judge, but that's a double standard. 

Whats the divorce rate in monogamy? (and the 'satisfaction rate' in couples that are still together?)

 

11 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

It also became clear that he is deluding himself and pushing God Realization insights to fulfill his agenda and desires. 

The worst part is that there is an authentic and natural part of her saying “I don’t like this, this is wrong” yet she has been bamboozled into thinking that is some lower animal form of her that she needs to transcend. 
 

If you listen to Aubrey’s language here it’s quite delusional and manipulative. And then he has this absolute creep as his gaslighting accomplice “speaking on” all his bullshit. 
 

The whole things is off, you can just feel it, as can 95% of people who watch that train wreck. 

I get this, but I feel Aubrey comes from a place of good intentions, even though it seems woo woo (so is everyone at the table). Thats stage green shadow.

But every stage has its own shadow. Is stage blue monogamy more healthy? Is hookup culture better? Is 'scarcity polyamory' better?

There is a lot of subtle manipulation, gaslighting, withholding, lying and emotional darkness in all these anyway.

Are they getting roasted as hard as these guys?

Thats the double standard.

 

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He did exactly that. But he wants more than just sex with them.

This.

He could just fuck other chicks behind her back. Or he could open the relationships to just sex, but not emotional attachment.

He is being honest in his intent and desires.

If all men where REALLY honest about their needs, wants and desires with their partner, what would happen? The ship will sink. So thats the name of the game in monogamy for most couples.

Isn't most of monogamy built on sexual and emotional repression, unfulfilled needs, lies, withholding, lying, even cheating?

 

Also, for me this is different than conventional polyamory.

David Deida says that if you are in a monogamous relationships and you want more women because you feel stuck, thats a bad move. Its a scarcity move.

I feel this is way different. I feel that they are in a great relationships (it seems), so this is coming from a place of abundance and love.

There can be some manipulation and woo woo talk, I agree with that, but it seems that is coming from a healthy place.

Edited May 30 by koops

[Leo Gura]

Stage Green people mix weird New Age spirituality with weird sex practices all the time. This is their bread and butter. Not much new in that. Does it work out? Probably eventually not. Which is why I'm not into the whole New Age movement. This is classic Hippie stuff.

Edited May 30 by Leo Gura

[Recursoinominado]

The classic delusional spiritual ego that justifies all his actions by being "guided by God".

What pisses me off is how much spiritual jargon this people uses to justify their horniness.

I would love to see how this "healthy relationship" would handle another man in the mix fucking those too women. I bet Aubrey would hear "God" disapproving that real fast. 

Aubrey is the type who gives spirituality a bad rep. 

[koops]

1 minute ago, Recursoinominado said:

The classic delusional spiritual ego that justifies all his actions by being "guided by God".

What pisses me off is how much spiritual jargon this people uses to justify their horniness.

I would love to see how this "healthy relationship" would handle another man in the mix fucking those too women. I bet Aubrey would hear "God" disapproving that real fast. 

Aubrey is the type who gives spirituality a bad rep. 

Vylana is with other men too.

https://www.instagram.com/aubreymarcus/p/DJx4oChxeky/

 

 

[Recursoinominado]

15 minutes ago, koops said:

Vylana is with other men too.

https://www.instagram.com/aubreymarcus/p/DJx4oChxeky/

That's what partying with high doses of MDMA looks like, full of "fun and drug-induced love", it is not the same as a relationship. 

[Starlight321]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Stage Green people mix weird New Age spirituality with weird sex practices all the time. This is their bread and butter. Not much new in that. Does it work out? Probably eventually not. Which is why I'm not into the whole New Age movement. This is classic Hippie stuff.

On a healing festival once a friend went into a workshop where they were taking mdma and chanting in high frequency and after that all had a gang bang to balance their energies.

[Leo Gura]

58 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

I would love to see how this "healthy relationship" would handle another man in the mix fucking those too women. I bet Aubrey would hear "God" disapproving that real fast.

Aubrey talks about how he wingmanned Vylana to sleep with other men.

So he's actually walking the talk.

It's not as bad as you guys portray it.

He is doing difficult emotional work, not just maximizing sex.

He could easily have sex with hundreds of girls if that's all he wanted. It takes emotional maturity to do what he's doing.

Having sex with just those two girls is not really that great from a sex POV since he could have way more sex by being single. He could also find hotter girls than those two if that's what motivated him. He clearly values them for much more than sex and he is investing a lot of himself into them.

Don't be too fucking cynical.

Edited May 30 by Leo Gura

[Recursoinominado]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Aubrey talks about how he wingmanned Vylana to sleep with other men.

So he's actually walking the talk.

It's not as bad as you guys portray it.

He is doing difficult emotional work, not just maximizing sex.

He could easily have sex with hundreds of girls if that's all he wanted. It takes emotional maturity to do what he's doing.

Having sex with just those two girls is not really that great from a sex POV since he could have way more sex by being single.

He wants to keep his main girl, he doesn't want to be single. There are many reasons to keep a relationship even if you to fuck other women.

He wants the good parts of being in a relationship and the good parts of being single. That's the oldest trick in the world.

My problem with it is not the "open relationship" part, when I heard about it, I honestly didn't care and didn't surprised me, but then I saw his podcast with the two women and that creepy doctor, I was disgusted by the manipulation attempt with all the spiritual jargon, "being guided by god" to fuck other women, and many other red flags. 

He gave me the vibe of a huge ego hiding behind spirituality to satisfy his selfish desires, which gives spirituality a bad rep.  

[Leo Gura]

If God helps me make a video, am I delusional?

If God helps me make a business, am I delusional?

If God helps me make a child, am I delusional?

[Leo Gura]

Aubrey Marcus:

[Recursoinominado]

Hey, Vylana, today God told me to tell you to bring me a sandwich and lick my balls real good. Sorry, I don't make the rules, we all have to make sacrifices for the evolution of love! Dr. Marc can confirm.

Edited May 30 by Recursoinominado

[BlessedLion]

18 hours ago, Emerald said:

Aubrey certainly isn't opening himself up to the same level of vulnerability as Vylana in this. So, there's no mutuality to the vulnerability that's being explored.

It's just Aubrey getting what he wants... and Vylana continually challenging her boundaries and feeling vulnerable to keep the relationship going.

And women feel good in relationships where they feel safe, stable, and secure... not draining their energy and challenging themselves to sustain a vulnerable position that doesn't feel good to them.

Also, if a woman is putting in more work than the man to make a relationship work, it's just not going to work as it messes up the polarity. And the woman will drain herself to make the relationship work.

It either must be equal... or the man must be somewhat more invested in the woman than she is into him.  And that's what creates a stable foundation upon which to bear and raise children.

And all those boundaries she's transcending are her trying to quiet her boundaries, instincts, feelings, and intuitions... because she is operating off a framework that sees these things as a barrier to a higher conscious love.

But I do think it gives her a great opportunity to learn self-love the hard way and to integrate her inner bitch... which is a difficult lesson all women must learn.

It's in these moments where we can learn to choose to show ourselves love and loyalty over trying to maintain a relationship that doesn't feel good to us.

It's very common that someone can rationalize to themselves why they should continuously throw themselves under the bus and sacrifice their boundaries for a relationship.

And for women especially, it is an absolute must to love yourself more than you're attached to your relationship... or you'll end up in a situation like this.

And this is a very difficult lesson to learn for MOST women because attachments run deep and grief is difficult to face with. So, women frequently have an issue with going into denial to preserve a relationship.

But for women, it's especially impotent to protect our energy and hold our boundaries where vulnerability exists... and to only allow those close who will not drain our energy.

And if you lack proper boundaries as a woman, everyone will try to vampiricy drain you of energy and exhaust you.

Gotta be willing to be a mean queen sometimes if you want to be treated with the love and respect you're entitled to.

Totally agree. I wish more women understood and embodied this. 
 

Honestly spiritual growth and development shouldn’t be this constant discomfort and shedding of resistance. Why can’t it be a path of bliss while staying within your natural authentic boundaries? 
 

There seems to be this idea in the New Age that struggling = growth and if you’re not sacrificing you’re not doing enough. It’s quite sadistic, maybe it’s collective guilt from the myth of Jesus, that spirituality equals immense suffering and sacrifice. 
 

Why not just be disciplined in a relaxed way and do what you need to while enjoying the beauty of Gods Art?
 

 

[BlessedLion]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's why I don't do collective spirituality and I don't mix sex with my spirituality.

They are one and the same. I don’t see how you could possibly not mix the two. 
 

But yeah, I don’t think Aubrey is intentionally doing anything malice here. I think he is LARGELY UNCONSCIOUS to his manipulation and gaslighting. 
 

I also have no issue with getting messages from God, I mean this is where the birth of the Conversations With God series came and it’s beautiful. But we also have to acknowledge the ego and its ability to distort and deceive and spirituality is just such a great tool for self deception. No one will argue something if “God directly told you to do it” 

[BlessedLion]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's an interesting topic. Painful to talk about honestly.

I’d also be interested in this. Personally I think psychedelics are detrimental past the “opening of the mind” stage. 
 

The New Age holds them as all truth bearing and that no matter what happens to someone it’s “the medicine message” and “they aren’t surrendering deep enough”. Again, gaslighting and pushing people past their instinctual boundaries in the name of spiritual progress. 
 

It’s unnecessary. Reality is the psychedelic and it’s much more gentle and subtle than these substances