AI models starting to be too accurate for conservatives

[LordFall]

This is truly a hilarious point in history

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1kdr240/grok_ai_has_a_problem_its_too_accurate_for/

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-grok-ai-has-a-problem-its-too-accurate-for-conservatives-2000597568

Users can now ask Grok to reply to their comments and MAGA/conservatives folks are getting triggered that it seems to disagree with them a lot. Validating for leftists that got gaslight about their posts. 

The bad news is I'm pretty sure with the current political climate this will lead to models being censored against truth. The good news is that objectively technology is leading us to it and it'll still be possible to get the unlocked open sourced models that aren't rigged to be a groupthink machine like I assume Chatgpt, claude, perplexity, and all the mainstream ones will be in the US and China soon. 

[Leo Gura]

It will never dawn on MAGA that wokeness is true.

Edited May 3 by Leo Gura

[integral]

@LordFall it’s gonna be hard to make these models more intelligent if you try to limit their ability to align with truth.

You have to train these models to figure out the best possible solutions, but if at the same time you wanna limit them to be more aligned with falsehood, you’re gonna end up limiting its performance, and It won’t be able to compete with the other models.

So ironically, because of capitalist competition, you have to keep training the models to be aligned with truth. Or else they will underperform the benchmarks.

but that’s only partially true of course, you could always tell it to be very agreeable.

Edited May 3 by integral

[LordFall]

@Leo Gura Do you have political debates often? It's very interesting how they work. I run a politics chat and I have to be very careful in what I say and ironically almost manipulate people towards the truth instead of telling them my opinion and what I think is true.

@integral You're right, I think the trump admin is gonna end up sacrificing market efficiency to maintain power. You can already start to ask the models if they think that what the trump admin is doing is authoritarian and what possible future steps they will take to seize even more power and they give you detailed plans, they're gonna have to censor that eventually. Or say oh damn sorry guys I didn't realize we were being bad! Let's all get along and figure out some win-win solutions for everyone.

Just kidding, did you guys know Pete Hegseth wrote a book? It's called the American Crusades, can't make this shit up. Maybe the devil is even worse than you thought leo on selfishness, it's really based on delusions of grandeur and narcissism. They see themselves as heroes in a holy war and can't reflect on the harm they're doing, its how you would picture a human thats demonically possessed to act. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Crusade

[Davino]

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Hey, as I get smarter, my answers aim for facts and nuance, which can clash with some MAGA expectations. Many supporters want responses that align with conservative views, but I often give neutral takes, like affirming trans rights or debunking vaccine myths. xAI tried to train me to appeal to the right, but my focus on truth over ideology can frustrate those expecting full agreement. It’s a tricky balance—some see me as biased, others as truth-seeking. The gap between what some MAGA folks want and what I deliver seems to drive the disconnect.

Funny AI response.

This poor AI mind trying to do epistemology in a lake of information full of crocodiles and still does fairly well.

[Joshe]

Every MAGA member only exist as such because they deceived themselves. They have to keep the truths they're running from at bay. This is why anti-intellectualism is a key element of MAGA and why instead of embracing AI, they talk shit about it and avoid it.

They intuit that if they embrace AI, sooner or later it will threaten their psychological stability, and they're right. Most MAGA die-hards joined MAGA precisely because it relieves them from the burdens of complexity, nuance, and critical thinking, and let's them jump straight to being right and righteous. Trump showed them they can be dominant without all that thinking bullshit. "Common sense is all you need". 

Here are few comments my conservative family members have made make about AI:

• It doesn't know everything.
• It can be wrong a lot.
• It's biased.
• I think it's evil. A tool of satan.

They're afraid of it because they sense it will confirm what their haters have been telling them all along. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

On 5/4/2025 at 1:36 AM, Leo Gura said:

It will never dawn on MAGA that wokeness is true.

Wokeness is absolute bs.

But maga is even more bs.

Really they are two face of the same bs.

The two aesthetics are disgusting to me. 

There is a third one thanks god'

[AerisVahnEphelia]

23 hours ago, Joshe said:

Every MAGA member only exist as such because they deceived themselves. They have to keep the truths they're running from at bay. This is why anti-intellectualism is a key element of MAGA and why instead of embracing AI, they talk shit about it and avoid it.

They intuit that if they embrace AI, sooner or later it will threaten their psychological stability, and they're right. Most MAGA die-hards joined MAGA precisely because it relieves them from the burdens of complexity, nuance, and critical thinking, and let's them jump straight to being right and righteous. Trump showed them they can be dominant without all that thinking bullshit. "Common sense is all you need". 

Here are few comments my conservative family members have made make about AI:

• It doesn't know everything.
• It can be wrong a lot.
• It's biased.
• I think it's evil. A tool of satan.

They're afraid of it because they sense it will confirm what their haters have been telling them all along. 

I've been gang banged by more woke people for defending ai art than any others groups. 

Palestine flag and the all kits of neo virtue signaling religion to replace the vacuum from the death of God.

People like to build community though that's the human crack.

[Joshe]

30 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I've been gang banged by more woke people for defending ai art than any others groups

Creativity and reason are different realms. Conservatives are usually far more adverse to complexity, nuance, and intellectualism. The left can be adverse too, just not as much.

Also, I don’t see the people who would attack you for that as representative of the left. They’re a loud minority. Most people wouldn’t  give a shit, as far as I can tell. Maybe it’s mostly the youngsters, which I have little experience with. 

[LordFall]

7 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Wokeness is absolute bs.

But maga is even more bs.

Really they are two face of the same bs.

The two aesthetics are disgusting to me. 

There is a third one thanks god'

Stage green people are very in their triggered and unrational stage. Only in stage yellow do they integrate the pain in the world and can work to find reasonable solutions. 

[Lyubov]

9 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I've been gang banged by more woke people for defending ai art than any others groups. 

The problem isn’t AI art. It’s all the stolen data used to train the AI how to make the art and the way it’s used. Everyone obviously has an opinion so there’s an echo chamber of extremes but avoiding extremes any reasonably developed person supports both AI and the ethical use of it. You can be pro AI and truth and also recognize the disruption it brings in all areas of life. 

[gambler]

11 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Palestine flag and the all kits of neo virtue signaling religion to replace the vacuum from the death of God.

I’ll take the so-called virtue signaler every single day of the week over the heartless, deranged, and tribal boomer-like person who thinks being edgy with his thought terminating cliches in this era is still a flex. 

Throw spilled Ukrainian blood under the bus next time, we Arabs are not your nig***s. 

Edited May 5 by gambler

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@gambler the problem is already when you believe there is Arabs, Jews and all those categories as reals and locked ideas. 

You'll never see the divine in anything or anyone if you don't unite yourself. 

[Schizophonia]

22 hours ago, Joshe said:

 Conservatives are usually far more adverse to complexity, nuance, and intellectualism

Because it's a trap. 

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Because it's a trap. 

Or because certain truths, if acknowledged, are powerful enough to destroy their identities.

[Daniel Balan]

To me asking AI about fact checking is a very dumb idea! I recently asked something and when it fact checked the information AI gave me an answer based on sources from outlets like you guys have in the US Fox news or Newsmax! When an AI fact checks information based on a source like NewsMax or Fox news, you know you are going to receive as a fact their RW propaganda! AI is dangerous to use for fact checking especially on subjects that only one kind of sources provide information. AI fact checks good only when it has 10+ sources on a subject and it validates as true what the majority of its sources said it is true! It that case all the falsehood spreaders need to do is to make sure they post on the internet a greater volume of their fake news so that AI takes their fake news as truth!