Epistemic Scoundrels Mega-Thread

[Vynce]

1 hour ago, yetineti said:

Yes, modern sports are already unfair and focus too much on physicality.

But also, before puberty, sports are more fair.

Someone should craft a new sport that combines the hits of football, sprints of basketball, the grace of golf, etc.

A meta sport with more defined, diverse roles, teams, goal, etc.

 

 

Go craft it for yourself. Maybe it’s a nice lesson for you to understand how to create popular things.

[Leo Gura]

My sport idea:

Kangaroo polo

Someone please AI this.

Edited June 2 by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

[Nemra]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I didn't understand what you said.

Eh, forget about it.

Edited June 2 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Sport of the Gods.

Edited June 2 by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, your love for kangaroos is a mystery to me.

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If you want to make sports truly fair you gotta give everyone handicaps based on hormone levels and physical size.

How it is fair to play basketball against Shaq? It's a cruel joke.

 

1 hour ago, Vynce said:

Don’t forget to adjust handicaps based on: „support of parents, teachers, friends, availability of fitness resources, IQ, trauma, neurodivergence, genes that code for motivation and discipline and more factors, yet to be found significant..“

 

Would you watch a sport where identical clones fight each other? Would you want to compete against a clone of yourself? That would be the most boring sport ever. Fairness in sports is not about equality but agreement.

Edited June 2 by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Would you watch a sport where identical clones fight each other?

I want to watch Jordan Peterson wrestle with a gorilla.

Edited June 2 by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I want to watch Jordan Peterson wrestle with a gorilla.

Only if they agree on the rules 🙂

[Husseinisdoingfine]

We who wrestle with primates.

[Leo Gura]

@Carl-Richard Are you not entertained?

[Nemra]

JP wrestling with a gorilla.

Edited June 2 by Nemra

[Lyubov]

Israel

[Vynce]

On 03/06/2025 at 0:12 AM, Carl-Richard said:

 

 

Would you watch a sport where identical clones fight each other? Would you want to compete against a clone of yourself? That would be the most boring sport ever. Fairness in sports is not about equality but agreement.

What?? That would be AMAZING. Take my money.

And by the way, my comment was 100% rage bait and provocative to show how unfair sport is and will always be.

[Carl-Richard]

51 minutes ago, Vynce said:

What?? That would be AMAZING. Take my money.

And by the way, my comment was 100% rage bait and provocative to show how unfair sport is and will always be.

That differences are unfair on a moral level does not compute in sports. There is no play without differences. The very reason you want for winning is that you were intrinsically different from the opponents.

Edited June 13 by Carl-Richard

[Vynce]

23 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

That differences are unfair on a moral level does not compute in sports. There is no play without differences. The very reason you want for winning is that you were intrinsically different from the opponents.

Nobody really cares about absolute fairness. The drama would get lost in fairness. People want drama not fairness.

I'd still die to fight or play against my identical twin. There would be asymmetries nonetheless.

[Eskilon]

43 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

That differences are unfair on a moral level does not compute in sports. There is no play without differences. The very reason you want for winning is that you were intrinsically different from the opponents.

There's no play without differences, but also, there's no play with overwhelming differences. It would be no fun to watch a human vs a Gorilla, the fight would be over in seconds. Therefore, competition is based on the balances between differences -- which is NOT to say there are two identical clones fighthing each other. It needs to be somewhat balanced, but still different.

Edited June 13 by Eskilon

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Eskilon said:

There's no play without differences, but also, there's no play with overwhelming differences. It would be no fun to watch a human vs a Gorilla, the fight would be over in seconds. Therefore, competition is based on the balances between differences -- which is NOT to say there are two identical clones fighthing each other. It needs to be somewhat balanced, but still different.

Which is why "sports will never not be unfair" or trying to make the differences as small as possible is a moot point. All that matters in the end is agreement on what differences are OK (which generally leads to a balanced outcome).

Edited June 13 by Carl-Richard

[UnbornTao]

25 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

 mute point.

Is it mute or moot? 

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Is it mute or moot? 

Wadeva m8 my non-nativeness comes out when I'm sleep deprived. Mooot.