I feel that i can't change my situation, is a bit sad

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, OBEler said:

What a question is this to someone who took it hundreds of times.

 

I am confused. A 5 Meo breakthrough is exactly that: the observer is vanishing. Complete fusion with existence. 5 Meo is absolutely capable of that I thought. You say subject and objective doesn't breaks down on a 5 meo breakthrough? I thought this is the definition of a breakthrough. Unfortunately I never had a real breakthrough so I can only say what I read.

 

"No one has ever achieved enlightenment with 5 Meo."

What about Martin ball? He seems to have archived it. 

I have done 5 meo in high dose, like vaping 25 mg a lot of times. 5-MeO has broken many very solid energetic barriers in my psyche. I have done it multiple times in a day, for 20 consecutive days, along with LSD and weed, together with DMT. And in my case, never—absolutely never—has 5-MeO led me to the complete equalization of the self with reality, to total dissolution. What it has done is open the door to heaven—that is, making me realize that I am infinite, that totality is within me, that within me lies the sacred source of reality from which the full glory of existence flows, to put it poetically. But I was always there, seeing it, even with the highest doses.

Over time, through meditation and contemplation, I have seen that the sacred source of infinite glory is nothing other than reality stripped of the lens of bias and preference. And during meditation, with minimal doses of LSD and cannabis, 5ug plus a single puff, it has become common for me to start perceiving the nature of this unlimited moment, its infinite vastness, for extended periods. I could gaze directly into the bottomless well of reality, into its absolute lack of foundation and meaning, without fear.

Then, one day, it happened: there was no creator and creation, no observer and reality. existence itself simply was, and I was that. It's as if two opposing negatives come together and become one. Then you realize that you, reality, simply are. There is no creation here, no purpose, no meaning. There is only your infinite nature, being, and this is its manifestation. Its appearance is irrelevant, as it is one among infinite possibilities, but its infinite, divine, and eternal nature shines transparently through the form it takes.

[OBEler]

@Breakingthewall ok thanks for clarification. Martin ball said only on 5 Meo your ego gets erased completely.

Maybe I am wrong or maybe 5 Meo works on you different.

 @Leo Gura Could you erase the observer on 5 Meo?

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, OBEler said:

ok thanks for clarification. Martin ball said only on 5 Meo your ego gets erased completely.

Maybe I am wrong or maybe 5 Meo works on you different.

He said that but then when you listen to him seems that he didn't do that step

[OBEler]

@Breakingthewall yeah as I remember, he said nothing about that the observer can vanish. Only total ego dissolution, maybe he had no thoughts about  that also the observer can vanish.

Edited March 28 by OBEler

[Clarence]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But you are correct that you will never be as conscious in your everyday life as 5-MeO-DMT.

Is that sad?

Yes.

But hey, I will never live on the moon.

Is that sad?

Yes.

So sad for Leo. 

That last sentence 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

@Breakingthewall yeah as I remember, he said nothing about that the observer can vanish. Only total ego dissolution, maybe he had no thoughts about  that also the observer can vanish.

In his history of a 5-meo trip, he says that after vaping, he felt he was in the presence of God and was one with God. This experience reveals that he has a perception of something divine, God, and that he, the observer, knows he is one with that God. This is a typical 5-meo experience. Another experience is that the energy barrier that keeps you in your human structure opens up within you, and infinity flows in. You shout "yes!" because you see that your substance is totality; everything is there. Another experience is that reality fades away; there are no limits. You realize that you are what is, you always have been, you are in eternal bliss in your limitless existence. Yet another experience is that you witness the sacred source from which reality flows. It is divine, sacred. Another is absolute emptiness, and in that emptiness only you are, you are your heart. It opens, and your heart fills the totality of infinity with existence. That substance is love, which does not dissolve into infinity but is inexhaustible. All of these are very useful mystical experiences for breaking through your embittered human shell, overcome by wounds and fears.

But there is something else. It's not so mystic, not so divine , it's more normal, it's just a change of perspective, It's when, at a given moment, relative perspective vanishes, and you are absolute, completely, seamlessly, naturally, with nothing grandiose, you don't fall to your knees, you don't say yes! yes! You simply are. Then it becomes absolutely obvious that everything that appears or can appear, any dimension, everything conscious and unconscious, the absolute and infinite totality that is reality, is simply that you are. Reality is, you are that. There is no creation process, there is no creator, there is no dreamer or dream. Yes, there is, there is a creator. I am now creating this text, but this is a relative process that appears in the absolute, and taking a step back reveals itself as simply the expression of being in this moment. Just as the beating of your heart is the expression of your human being, and you as a human are not making your heart beat, but your heart beats because you are human, this text is appearing because the existence is, I am. Absolutely everything is like this, then, when you realize this, a subtle shift occurs: your bias disappears, you accept reality, your barriers fall, the pressure you were exerting fades, the contraction relaxes, you are free. Totally. You are, you are the absolute being, and that's it. Period. Ha!

Of course you fall later in the normal state where you blame if the things are not exactly as you want, but also that is the reality being, it's easy to equalize yourself with this perspective 

[Verg0]

@OBEler There were 1-2 occurrences where the observer vanished completely during 5-MeO-DMT. 

I think it's known as a whiteout / blackout in the space and is a common thing. 

Edited March 28 by Verg0

[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, OBEler said:

What a question is this to someone who took it hundreds of times.

What's your problem ?

He said he still had existential dread when he took 5 MeO, but that was a long time ago; So maybe that has changed.

 

Edited March 28 by Schizophonia

[OBEler]

@Breakingthewall Wow thanks that description helps very much.

@Schizophonia that must be 5 years ago.he took it almost 30 days in a row. And after that he went through some hundred more breakthrough trips. If you take 5 Meo that often there is no fear left of course.

[OBEler]

1 hour ago, Verg0 said:

@OBEler There were 1-2 occurrences where the observer vanished completely during 5-MeO-DMT. 

I think it's known as a whiteout / blackout in the space and is a common thing. 

I don't mean a whiteout or blackout here. You are fully conscious but the observer is vanished.

[Leo Gura]

There never was an observer!

There's only Truth shining to itself.

Stop talking about fake observers.

You are not an observer, you are Truth.

Edited March 28 by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

I literally said this to myself before reading your response.

Synchronicity.

[Leo Gura]

Nondual people do explain it properly because they don't even understand what truth is.

They made a huge mess of this whole field by talking about observers, watchers, witnesses, and whos.

Edited March 28 by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

 

What am I? Truth. What is Truth? That's a helluva question. That ain't no trivial matter.

What the fuck is reality???????? Ahhhhhhhhh fuck!!!!!!!  What is Existence?!!!! This is the fire for wanting Truth and nothing else. I want to be fucked by Truth. I want to fully open up to the magnitude of infinity.

Edited March 28 by ExploringReality

[Someone here]

@ExploringReality all the answers are within you ..right now . Look inside your being . Seriously im not joking .you could figure the entire maze of everything just by being silent and observe your interior guidance .

I will give you an example:

"What is reality ?"

Look at it .LOOK .HERE IT IS!. Take a look .what do you see ? What you hear ?what do you smell or taste?  

"And we(Allah) have created man and we are closer to him than himself "

-Quranic verse 

[ExploringReality]

@Someone here

I'm just framing it as a serious inquiry and highlighting the significance of the desire for Truth.

Yes Truth contains all answers.

There are no observers, there is only Truth. Truth is trying to dig in its own asshole to see itself.

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Someone here

I'm just framing it as a serious inquiry and highlighting the significance of the desire for Truth.

Yes Truth contains all answers.

There are no observers, there is only Truth. Truth is trying to dig in its own asshole to see itself.

I like that 🙂.

What you desire isn't Truth..not really . But the happiness that's gonna dawn on you once you discover Truth and go " I did it ! I know what all of reality is !".

Do you see what I'm saying ?

Truth is all there is .obviously right ? So whether Truth digs its asshole or digs its piss-hole is irrelevant..its all Truth.  The answer to any question is the substance out of which the question is made. It's impossibley direct .you can't "get it " in the "future ". Because it is already HERE &Now. Forever. 

[samijiben]

@Someone here @ExploringReality 

What's up guys  —  wanted to weigh in on the convo!

 

I'm sorry to say that assholes, pissholes, crackholes, donuts holes, messy holes,  and even holisitic, interconnected, utterly, exquisitely sublime and irrestiably magnificent holes just scratch the surface of the One Hole of All Holes, and it is not a black hole, nor a particularly deep or dark hole either, but a holeless hole that is somehow Completely Whole in and of itself, containing all holes, oh, So Holy!

I propose the hole down, up, and around which we must dig is the one that has no ground, for the aforementioned holes are ones of limitation, and The Holy, Wholly Hole of Holes Itself is where True Wonder Begins.

[Someone here]

@samijiben hi there .

you copy-pasted That from a rant post on reddit? 

Can you actually put up 3 coherent lines from your own creativity? 

Creativity =sexual energy . 

When you stop jerking off for few months you can't help but make love to reality itself and get insights higher than Leo himself can get if he is on all the psychedelics on the planet simultaneously. 

Go wipe the hole . Or shuv something in it .it's called "sissygasm "