How to make her obsessed

[Hojo]

You have to be emotional manipulative if you are conciously playing the game of life. We don't know how social interactions work so we are learning. By learning you are being manipulative thats why you learn. Please get out of head that being aware and going towards a certain path is manipulation as a bad thing. The only reason you learn anything is to manipulate. Its part of life.

Edited January 28 by Hojo

[Letho]

 

On 27/01/2025 at 8:46 PM, AION said:

 

Most solid advice if you are into fast and short term results. This kind of advice RSD would give when they were unhinged. 

 

@AION Manipulation is for immature people. I do not approve perceptions of some of the members here. Immaturity is simply the measure of either ignorance or the amount of knowledge someone has that is not paired with their actions in the physical world. Immature people often justify their manipulation by citing examples of it or aspects of the environment that force their announcement that it must therefore be a necessity. All they are revealing is their lack of authority on their personal growth; slavery to the environment in deciding the kind of character they will have in the future. The only defence manipulative people have in this and other respects is their indoctrination into manipulation, while at the same time, they still make their own conscious decisions in either its reinforcement or negation towards greater growth. 

Balance. 

 

[AION]

46 minutes ago, Moon said:

Thankful to be a woman so I don’t need to exert effort to get a man obsessed with me 🤔

Fr though having someone obsessed regardless of gender will get boring quickly. Especially when you have psychos after you 😂

What do you have to do to make them obsessed? 🤔 

[Schizophonia]

Cringe. 

[AION]

7 minutes ago, Moon said:

That’s the thing lol. I don’t really do anything except live a joyful life for myself first, feeling and looking good and pursuing my passions. I am currently content with being single, I don’t try hard to impress men and I don’t sleep with them.

I do want to get married in the future but I hardly put effort in with men and when asked only occasionally go on dates. Yet I always have men who want a relationship but most of them are not what I’m looking for. Some examples of obsession include men sending me money without having met me in person, continued excessive contact after I’m rude af or proposing to me 2 weeks after meeting and so on. 

This is coming from a girl who years ago used to be desperate about being in relationships and would try to impress men I liked by cooking for them, gifting and all sorts of things. But I have more success now without trying. 

I know this forum is focused on brute forcing and action to achieve your desires which is the masculine approach but also harder and less efficient imo

The approach that I live by is focusing on source and altering my self-concept, reprogramming the subconscious or any other alternative name for it. It results in inspired action and the outer reality shifting confirming to your inner beliefs. 

 

I know what you mean. The best is the middle of the masculine and feminine approach. 
 

You don’t have to do anything because you are a female. If you were male, the thing you are doing wouldn’t work. Guys don’t get approached in malls. Or girls sending money to our bank accounts. Lmao. 
 

I think there are still aspects that guys can integrate like not being desperate, having life purpose and just being happy and thus attracting. That is actually the masculine way of not pinging for being liked, being grounded, and just standing tall like a you know what. It is usually guys with feminine energy who run after girls. 
 

Nowadays it is also hard for some guys to get in relationships because the dynamics are changing. Girls can be more demanding and guys who can step up their game will get lucky and the guys who stay desperate and needy will be left out. 

Edited February 10 by AION

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Yep! Step your game up, servants! Women expect more from us!😄

In all honesty, this is why self improvement for a man and self improvement for a woman are 2 totally different universes, and why this section specifically should be for men only. Because we're the ones in need of advice. Women just come here out of morbid curiousity and/or to silently laugh at our faces

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Well, that's another category of problems that yeah, can be more general and more common for both men and women. But the fact that they get strung along is honestly their problem. They just don't realize how good they're really got it and thus aren't able to exploit the fact that they are women. You could say the same of some men (perhaps including me) that we don't realize our full potential, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to exploit women the way women exploit men, even if I tried my best. Not even a little bit

Its just a bit annoying how women come here and talk mindset and this and that, as if we are the same or are dealing with the same issue. This subsection should be banned for women imo

Moreover, only successfull fuckboys and men in successfull long term relationships should be able to give advice here, the rest should just listen until they become one of the above

Edited February 10 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Sugarcoat]

I don’t think it’s particularly healthy to be obsessed with someone. Either you’re exceptional and have exceptional impact or she just has an immature /insecure mind

[Schizophonia]

Being a man is a low ego and a high self-esteem; Low ego because you exist through the principle of reality, reality in which we had evolved which was much more merciless than what we are used to now (Survival, rites of passage and pressure of the tribe in general, climatic conditions, no medicine ...), and high esteem because everyone counts on you.

This is what gives this stoic, funny/detached and merciless mentality at the same time typically masculine, that women automatically like because it is our natural state.

It's like the hierarchy between males, there is no sexual hierarchy in nature because 1) Paleolithic men would not hesitate to commit rape or kill (Freud's myth of the primitive horde?) men who would ""steal women"", and 2) We are all more or less Chad in nature because we are not disfigured by modern diet and living conditions, the lack of attractiveness is essentially epigenetic.

The video only tacitly suggests to imitate this state, to imitate it.

All our misunderstandings come from the fact that we have disconnected ourselves from nature.

Edited February 20 by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

On 10/02/2025 at 11:01 PM, Sugarcoat said:

I don’t think it’s particularly healthy to be obsessed with someone. Either you’re exceptional and have exceptional impact or she just has an immature /insecure mind

Do not confuse senility with maturity.

It's normal for a woman to be obsessed with a crush.

 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Do not confuse senility with maturity.

It's normal for a woman to be obsessed with a crush.

 

It might be normal but it doesn’t reflect the most secure attachment style

But there’s degrees of it ofc, and depending on which stage of the relationship it is, more normal in the beginning phases 

Edited February 20 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

32 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It might be normal but it doesn’t reflect the most secure attachment style

But there’s degrees of it ofc, and depending on which stage of the relationship it is, more normal in the beginning phases 

I like dependent, "insecure" girls, because it gives me the right/pushs to be masculine; That is to say, once again, to be protective, cuddly, sexually dominant, etc. There is no point in having a "strong" girlfriend.

Edited February 20 by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

25 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I like dependent, "insecure" girls, because it gives me the right/pushs to be masculine; That is to say, once again, to be protective, cuddly, sexually dominant, etc. There is no point in having a "strong" girlfriend.

Understandable . My stupid f*cking mind is so empty as usual I don’t even know what to reply. It’s like I’m not human, I’m not 🤷🏻‍♀️why do I even try to write something from the beginning

Edited February 20 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Understandable 

I let you alone.

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I let you alone.

I edited. It’s not important 

[Schizophonia]

14 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Understandable . My stupid f*cking mind is so empty as usual I don’t even know what to reply.

It's not a big deal.

14 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It’s like I’m not human, I’m not 🤷🏻‍♀️

How does this evolve btw ?

You can reply on your journal so as not to derail the thread.

14 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

why do I even try to write something from the beginning

Because you are still "human" and "humans" are "curious". 👺

Or "polite", maybe you "put up" with "me" mainly out of "politeness" lol i don't know.

[Emerald]

On 1/27/2025 at 6:55 AM, something_else said:

Another quick point. 

Men feel like these manipulation tactics are necessary because they don't think they are good enough to deserve a woman without tricking her. If they were good enough (or more specifically if they believed they were good enough) they wouldn't feel like they had to spend time learning how to trick women into liking them.

This^ is like the fundamental problem with the pickup style of thinking.

100%

It's really evident to me that the main problems facing men in dating have mostly to do with feelings of shame and unworthiness.

And women get saddled with the projection of being arbiters of male worth and society enforces that archetypal narrative. So, it creates all these stakes and tension around dating that aren't actually there. And men end up isolating themselves because they feel unworthy.

Or they end up relating to women in powerless or combative ways because they see women as holding so much power to validate or invalidate them.

And pick-up often gets used as a bandaid coping strategy to either make one's self more worthy of the woman OR to make one's self appear worthy to the woman by tricking her (as the appearance of worthiness is the only thing that feels possible from that standpoint of shame).

Of course, some can just learn some of the seduction techniques and be successful if they don't have self-worth issues. But that seems to be the exception and not the rule.

But it seems like, 95 times out of 100, men seek to learn about pickup as a means to either try to become worthy of female validation through 'becoming more Masculine' because they can't fathom of having a woman who wants them for them... or as a means of tricking women into validating them if they can't fathom of having a woman who wants them for them to the point where the woman could only love the false mask.

And pickup turns into a game of seeking external validation as a temporary salve for the underlying shame.

It's that thing of trying to fix a symptom rather than addressing the real root cause. And it seems to be making men lonelier and lonelier... especially the ones who end up successfully sleeping with lots of women.

That's the issue when you successfully cut off the head of the hydra without cauterizing the stump.

[CARDOZZO]

39 minutes ago, Emerald said:

100%

It's really evident to me that the main problems facing men in dating have mostly to do with feelings of shame and unworthiness.

And women get saddled with the projection of being arbiters of male worth and society enforces that archetypal narrative. So, it creates all these stakes and tension around dating that aren't actually there. And men end up isolating themselves because they feel unworthy.

Or they end up relating to women in powerless or combative ways because they see women as holding so much power to validate or invalidate them.

And pick-up often gets used as a bandaid coping strategy to either make one's self more worthy of the woman OR to make one's self appear worthy to the woman by tricking her (as the appearance of worthiness is the only thing that feels possible from that standpoint of shame).

Of course, some can just learn some of the seduction techniques and be successful if they don't have self-worth issues. But that seems to be the exception and not the rule.

But it seems like, 95 times out of 100, men seek to learn about pickup as a means to either try to become worthy of female validation through 'becoming more Masculine' because they can't fathom of having a woman who wants them for them... or as a means of tricking women into validating them if they can't fathom of having a woman who wants them for them to the point where the woman could only love the false mask.

And pickup turns into a game of seeking external validation as a temporary salve for the underlying shame.

It's that thing of trying to fix a symptom rather than addressing the real root cause. And it seems to be making men lonelier and lonelier... especially the ones who end up successfully sleeping with lots of women.

That's the issue when you successfully cut off the head of the hydra without cauterizing the stump.

I'm working on myself is the #1 cope man use these days. 

[sholomar]

Best video I've ever seen just about about what makes her obsessed, or at least what they look for, something an autist who likes it blunt rather than all the mysterious bullshit advice you get from most people will be able to digest.

 

 

Edited February 21 by sholomar

[AION]

@Emerald So what is the solution? Just letting go of shame and unworthiness and everything will fall in place 🤣That is seems kind of truncated and simplified.. although at the core it might be true what you are saying. I'm clearly seeing this in some friends who have no success. They feel ashamed about their situation and unworthy because they don't have the things that they think they need. But in my opinion it is more complex. These guys take everything personal and too serious instead of gaming their way through life. Perhaps even more important than letting go of shame/unworthiness is learning playfulness which is something that comes natural in humans but we unlearn playfulness after a certain age.

Edited February 21 by AION