I predict a falling out between Donald Trump and Elon Musk

[Zen LaCroix]

I can see how the two dominant personalities of Trump and Musk will clash. Elon Musk is loving the attention and being in the spotlight at Trump’s events. He has main character syndrome and acts as if it’s his event when he’s on stage in a way that other guests at Trump’s rallies and inauguration have not.

Musk likes control. He’s been selected to be part of Trump’s committee but because he’s the richest man in the world, has main character syndrome and a variety of other attributes about his character and personality. He will want to completely control this committee and maybe even try to impose his will on Trump. After all he’s done so much for him.  He’s the boss everywhere and he’s not going to want to compromise. How will he even handle not being the number one person in an organization? This is a man who has large visions and goes to amazing lengths to makes them happen. He’ll probably try to impose his will on the president as well and it’ll eventually be too much

His need for control was a major reason why he had a falling out with the CEO of OpenAI Sam Altman. He’s also bothered that he isn’t a part of Trump’s Stargate project and he can’t seem to keep his mouth shut. He likes to speak his mind and isn’t interested in playing cordial. 

I predict he will become overbearing or be unable to play his position in the committee and him and Trump will fall out. 

What do you guys think? Do you agree or think something completely different?

[Leo Gura]

OF COURSE!

Two egos that massive are like two magnets of the same pole.

Musk is a fool for thinking Trump will listen to him or do his bidding. Trump is like Putin. Oligarchs serve him, not the other way around. Because he can arrest them. American oligarchs are so foolish they don't even understand how this works. They are used to presidents being fair and decent.

Edited January 23 by Leo Gura

[integral]

I am surprised Trump didn't give Elon the $500 billion AI platform. Instead Sam Altman is going to be in charge of that it seems.

[abundance]

1 minute ago, integral said:

I am surprised Trump didn't give Elon the $500 billion AI platform. Instead Sam Altman is going to be in charge of that it seems.

It isn't a publicly funded project from what I understand. And the Stargate project started last year under Biden's admin. The whole press conference seemed to be a publicity stunt to make Trump look good. Its ridiculous. 

https://youtu.be/z6l0HvLVVGU?si=8tJBGRIJBJrZZkdI

 

[Zen LaCroix]

58 minutes ago, integral said:

I am surprised Trump didn't give Elon the $500 billion AI platform. Instead Sam Altman is going to be in charge of that it seems.

Elon is not controllable in the way that Sam Altman is for Trump. Plus Sam Altman is at the cutting edge of AI right now

[Twentyfirst]

I said it in a different thread but Elon's only real future would be to be governor of California and then secede from the USA. Add in using whatever military is in California to go to war with the rest of the USA and then take it all

Or just go back to South Africa

Does Trump really need Musk to go to Mars? Space X is pretty much already built and organized. Just replace him. Shits probably never gonna happen anyways

[Breakingthewall]

The moment Elon Musk becomes a nuisance, dictator Trump will fire him. Elon may be very rich, but he doesn't have an army at his disposal, he's simply a subordinate, he should understand that.

 

[Breakingthewall]

On 23/1/2025 at 11:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Trump is like Putin. Oligarchs serve him, not the other way around

Then it's better that the president serves the oligarchs? 😅

[Basman]

Two egos of their size in the same place would suck the atmosphere out of the room.

[Basman]

Trump and Musk during their meetings:

 

[Zen LaCroix]

Yep it's happening now as we predicted

[sholomar]

Good call. From the looks of it Trump is just another big spending keynesian piece of swamp trash, no different from the rest of them who run the west. This is all political theater to make you think your vote matters. That national debt will keep going up 5-10% annually year over year, reaching in the area of $125T in 20 years, as the debt has doubled every decade going back to the leaving of the gold standard.   They all lie and gaslight about "paying down the debt" and that's never going to happen. It's best not even to listen to what they say, because everything any politician says is lies, but rather look at their implemented policies.  

For example, despite Trump's rhetoric he hasn't really deported all these people who have come in, which is fine, but they are all still around my town, working where I work and other places. The end goal of the plutocrats is money printing and unchecked immigration because that's what makes the rich richer and props up their pyramid scheme financial systems. They control the mainstream media and present people a carefully crafted reality that people simply accept as truth. They also use the left right polarization to distract people. 

Edited 23 hours ago by sholomar

[Leo Gura]

@sholomar You are criticizing Trump from the right.

Lol

After this whole Trump saga fails, right-wingers will just say, It failed because Trump wasn't really right wing, he was a liberal all along.

Edited 23 hours ago by Leo Gura

[sholomar]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@sholomar You are criticizing Trump from the right.

Lol

After this whole Trump saga fails, right-wingers will just say, It failed because Trump wasn't really right wing, he was a liberal all along.

I don't really have a lot of faith in either of them, nor do I consider myself a right winger, or aligned with any particular group.  Certainly not someone who thinks for example the clot shot is going to kill me, as an example.  They are just as brainwashed by their right wing propaganda as any other group is.   No blind loyalty to that party or any person. He had his chance to try to prove he wasn't another keynesian, and failed with his budget bill. 

Edited 23 hours ago by sholomar

[Hardkill]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@sholomar You are criticizing Trump from the right.

Lol

After this whole Trump saga fails, right-wingers will just say, It failed because Trump wasn't really right wing, he was a liberal all along.

Trump has said that every conservative judge including all of the ones he appointed during his first presidential term are radical left or liberals who need to be impeached. He called Leonard Leo "a 'real ‘sleazebag' and 'bad person who, in his own way, probably hates America.'" 

🤣🤣🤣

@Zen LaCroix You definitely called it! I didn't think that it would happen this soon though.

Edited 23 hours ago by Hardkill

[Twentyfirst]

Could be a setup for some weird stock trading and they are just pretending to fall out