How to be like Osho?

[M A J I]

By not being Osho

[Javfly33]

27 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Not necessarily could just mean rich parents or "wrong" priorities. But it doesn’t matter anyway do whatever you like obviously.

Yes, thats true. In my case is not thats why i project It like that probably 

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I didn't say that he wasn't useful, I just think that he was a liar in some sense. I think that he was extremely smart but not enlightened, and he claimed that he was enlightened. Just my opinion. Many people have done very useful things without being enlightened, many enlightened people are anonymous and they don't do nothing 

Don't confuse will of work and success with enlightenment. The ego is extremely powerful, and use to be the engine that gives energy to this kind of movement, even if it is "helping the humankind"

My litmus test is could he help me go all the way

My answer is an unqualified yes

Although I agree that he is definitely long winded and his anecdotes and jokes are nauseating and cringe

He wants enlightenment to a full time pursuit and this is overkill and in fact unhelpful

He can be a drug if not careful

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then this is the measurement for enlightenment. Well, bill gates is the most enlightened, windows has been very helpful 

Not for me.

He is a low conscious sap.

Helpful is to look at someone and see the absolute

Edited December 19, 2024 by gettoefl

[Davino]

On 18/12/2024 at 2:33 AM, coca said:

@Davino https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/rolex-ref-18148-18000-lot-295-280

I would wear Osho's watch. I'm a jewellery nerd so I'm guilty of that.

It's interesting because I find no appeal for costly material possessions but for Jewellery and Rudraksha. I would wear expensive Jewells even if I was the last human on planet earth. I just feel an incomprehensible beauty and fascination for precious metals, gems and Rudrakshas, they make my human self very happy.

It's a whole fucking science of conscious-energetic interacting materials that I've been discovering and refining over the years. Just a weird niche of mine.

Edited December 20, 2024 by Davino

[Javfly33]

21 minutes ago, Davino said:

 I just feel an incomprehensible beauty and fascination for precious metals, gems and Rudrakshas, they make my human self very happy.

It's a whole fucking science of conscious-energetic interacting materials that I've been discovering and refining over the years. Just a weird niche of mine.

Is completely normal to find that fascination, they shine for a reason 👀

[Davino]

31 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Is completely normal to find that fascination, they shine for a reason 👀

You shine brighter

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, Davino said:

You shine brighter

Thanks bro 🩵

We all do, we find appeal for jewels because they are just a small representation of us 😎

Edited December 20, 2024 by Javfly33

[Breakingthewall]

On 19/12/2024 at 3:18 PM, gettoefl said:

Not for me.

He is a low conscious sap.

Helpful is to look at someone and see the absolute

I put that example because you said that Osho is legit because he did a lot for the people. Maybe his work is useful to open the mind of the people, to make them oriented to the spirituality, but Im not sure if he was a liar in the sense that he pretend to be in a plane of openenss and direct perception, totally enlightened, and maybe he was pretending it. He was extremely brilliant, but saying: I'm enlightened, like Buddha, the most that is possible, the openess to the total full time, alleluha, out of the space and the time, out of the human, detached of the human experience and opened to the absolute, in short, enlightened, and it's , well, not exactly like that, only just a bit, sometimes, intuition. Well, maybe he's useful, but for me he's a clown, just for liying, like Krishnamurti, seems another liar. But you can't say that 100%. Who is totally enlightened? Someone in the world? Sure? Maybe all are fooling themselves 

Edited December 20, 2024 by Breakingthewall

[gettoefl]

14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I put that example because you said that Osho is legit because he did a lot for the people. Maybe his work is useful to open the mind of the people, to make them oriented to the spirituality, but Im not sure if he was a liar in the sense that he pretend to be in a plane of openenss and direct perception, totally enlightened, and maybe he was pretending it. He was extremely brilliant, but saying: I'm enlightened, like Buddha, the most that is possible, the openess to the total full time, alleluha, out of the space and the time, out of the human, detached of the human experience and opened to the absolute, in short, enlightened, and it's , well, not exactly like that, only just a bit, sometimes, intuition. Well, maybe he's useful, but for me he's a clown, just for liying, like Krishnamurti, seems another liar. But you can't say that 100%. Who is totally enlightened? Someone in the world? Sure? Maybe all are fooling themselves 

When you're enlightened, everyone is enlightened.

It can't be otherwise.

Only the whole is enlightened not a fragment.

Seeing a murderer anywhere is a choice not a fact.

I made this universe.

I came here to declare every murderer innocent and holy.

(Which needn't mean I necessarily will release them from prison.)

What the eyes show is incorrect until it gets corrected thus.

Mind can't do this however or if it tries to, that is called faking it.

You don't think your way into enlightenment.

I read a little  Osho every day for about 5 years and he points all this out.

Edited December 21, 2024 by gettoefl

[Leo Gura]

19 hours ago, Davino said:

I just feel an incomprehensible beauty and fascination for precious metals, gems and Rudrakshas, they make my human self very happy.

You are like Tom Greene from Freddy Got Fingered.

JEWELS!

[Davino]

Fuck, that's me!

This is my love language hshshshsh

[Breakingthewall]

10 hours ago, gettoefl said:

read a little  Osho every day for about 5 years and he points all this out.

Sure, he's smart, but those indians knows a lot about enlightenment theory, then they can fool you easily. This thing about enlightenment is funny, have you realized that it's possible to convince yourself that you are enlightened? Then try to convince others. It's self suggestion mixed with ambition, or in other words, narcissism 

[Princess Arabia]

10 hours ago, Davino said:

Fuck, that's me!

This is my love language hshshshsh

Lmao.

[gettoefl]

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, he's smart, but those indians knows a lot about enlightenment theory, then they can fool you easily. This thing about enlightenment is funny, have you realized that it's possible to convince yourself that you are enlightened? Then try to convince others. It's self suggestion mixed with ambition, or in other words, narcissism 

Bearing in mind he spoke twice a day 360 days a year, notice that he doesn't use the word "I" bar a few minor instances here and there.

Are any of us as enlightened as that?

No-I is it and living it reveals it.

Self promotion or self profession is an impossibility.

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Bearing in mind he spoke twice a day 360 days a year, notice that he doesn't use the word "I" bar a few minor instances here and there.

Are any of us as enlightened as that?

No-I is it and living it reveals it.

Self promotion or self profession is an impossibility.

 

Maybe he's smart enough to know that. Indians have a millenary tradition of scamming in spirituality 

[gettoefl]

18 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe he's smart enough to know that. Indians have a millenary tradition of scamming in spirituality 

For real. He pointed them out on the regular. Was especially scathing of Krishnamurti. The only teachers he loved were Buddha and Vivekananda.

[Breakingthewall]

16 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

For real. He pointed them out on the regular. Was especially scathing of Krishnamurti. The only teachers he loved were Buddha and Vivekananda.

Osho was legit in many senses, but what I mean is about real enlightenment or be just wise. Krishnamurti was the típical indian smart fake, very narcissist, Osho had soul, depth, energy, openess, but in my opinion he was límited, but who knows, maybe all humans of all times were límited and total enlightenment is impossible. 

Look for example sadhguru, his claims. He eats mercury, knows that there are 84 universes and his presence could do that this would be your last incarnation 😅. Everything with those gurus is ...let's say not very sure

[Ishanga]

32 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Osho was legit in many senses, but what I mean is about real enlightenment or be just wise. Krishnamurti was the típical indian smart fake, very narcissist, Osho had soul, depth, energy, openess, but in my opinion he was límited, but who knows, maybe all humans of all times were límited and total enlightenment is impossible. 

Look for example sadhguru, his claims. He eats mercury, knows that there are 84 universes and his presence could do that this would be your last incarnation 😅. Everything with those gurus is ...let's say not very sure

Most all of them say the samething, what they say is not important, that is just circus, what Sadhguru says, Osho says, Krishnamurti says, its all circus, it is just that some share okay methods, some share no methods, some share Awesome methods, the indivudal reading or watching them, has to decided what to do with it, use the method, try it out then see what happens, don't be concerned with the personality of Sadhguru, Osho, Krishnamurti or whomever, just use the methods, see the results, decide what to do next, is it working for You  for Your intentions, needs and wants/desires or not...

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Most all of them say the samething, what they say is not important, that is just circus, what Sadhguru says, Osho says, Krishnamurti says, its all circus, it is just that some share okay methods, some share no methods, some share Awesome methods, the indivudal reading or watching them, has to decided what to do with it, use the method, try it out then see what happens, don't be concerned with the personality of Sadhguru, Osho, Krishnamurti or whomever, just use the methods, see the results, decide what to do next, is it working for You  for Your intentions, needs and wants/desires or not...

I'm not going to use any method, I just want to understand what is inside them, if there is falsehood in them, narcissism, lies. 

Anyway, so if Hitler's talks make you feel better, that means he's authentic? Many millions of people loved Hitler's hysterical talks and the healthy hatred of the Jew made them feel better. Does that mean Hitler is the real deal? I think Hitler was a mentally retarded drug addict, but that's just an opinion.