Solipsism and Non-Solipsism existing at the same time.

[Javfly33]

Sharing a perception I had this morning...

☝️ Consider the possibility that Reality is absolutely single and united, is One, but, the Reality is able to fragment itself into two things by imagination or the skill of creation/manifestation.

Creation/manifestation would be: objects, body, in summary physical reality.

 

Since the imagination is limitless, what you call 'other people' is just Reality imagining other types of imagination.

One imagination might be a woman, another a kid, another a man, another a dog, another a plant.

Where all this imagination is taking place? Of course in one single Self, in one single Brahman.

 

The One that realizes itself, realizes whole existence is him and accepts fully that It Is Alone.

'others' are parts of God that still are too engaged in imagination. But for the One that realizes, there are no parts.

 

So both solipsism and non-solipsism can coexist:

For the one that is Awake, solipsism is 100% the case. For the ones that still have to awake, others do indeed exist. 

Edited November 7, 2024 by Javfly33

[Malekakisioannis]

@Javfly33 this community will never heal from the solipsism trauma Leo caused. 

[Javfly33]

3 hours ago, Malekakisioannis said:

@Javfly33 this community will never heal from the solipsism trauma Leo caused. 

😂 I don´t like to call it Solipsism, I would say 'unity' but the wording at this point is very much accepted. 

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Sharing a perception I had

Word use indicative of the problem  You had an insight, an intuiton, maybe a thought.

 

4 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

😂 I don´t like to call it Solipsism, I would say 'unity' but the wording at this point is very much accepted. 

Is that really what people mean by solipsism though? 🤔🤔

[Someone here]

Gosh ..you guys still takin' about solipsism..isn't it just downright boring at this point?

[Carl-Richard]

16 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Gosh ..you guys still takin' about solipsism..isn't it just downright boring at this point?

I would posit we're not talking about solipsism, but that is just me 

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Word use indicative of the problem  You had an insight, an intuiton, maybe a thought.

A perception without a thought, isn't that Truth? 😊

 

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Is that really what people mean by solipsism though? 🤔🤔

I dont know people mean by solipsism but my idea of Unity is pretty solipsistic. 

[Someone here]

@Carl-Richard I swear you are just fooling around and it's hilarious 😂. 

[Carl-Richard]

17 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

A perception without a thought, isn't that Truth? 😊

When I think perception, I think the processing of sensory phenomena. When I think of Truth, I think truth beyond the senses, as the senses are limited. So no 

 

17 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I dont know people mean by solipsism but my idea of Unity is pretty solipsistic. 

People who talk about solipsism usually get very hung up on the idea that other meat bags do not come with a limited sensory experience.

Edited November 7, 2024 by Carl-Richard

[Will1125]

Its hard to accept to be the only concsious one 😁

Its a big fight between relative and ultimate plan 

Edited November 7, 2024 by Will1125

[James123]

7 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Sharing a perception I had this morning...

☝️ Consider the possibility that Reality is absolutely single and united, is One, but, the Reality is able to fragment itself into two things by imagination or the skill of creation/manifestation.

Creation/manifestation would be: objects, body, in summary physical reality.

 

Since the imagination is limitless, what you call 'other people' is just Reality imagining other types of imagination.

One imagination might be a woman, another a kid, another a man, another a dog, another a plant.

Where all this imagination is taking place? Of course in one single Self, in one single Brahman.

 

The One that realizes itself, realizes whole existence is him and accepts fully that It Is Alone.

'others' are parts of God that still are too engaged in imagination. But for the One that realizes, there are no parts.

 

So both solipsism and non-solipsism can coexist:

For the one that is Awake, solipsism is 100% the case. For the ones that still have to awake, others do indeed exist. 

İ am sorry but these are concepts, thoughts and insights.

[caspex]

 

[Razard86]

On 11/7/2024 at 8:22 AM, Carl-Richard said:

When I think perception, I think the processing of sensory phenomena. When I think of Truth, I think truth beyond the senses, as the senses are limited. So no 

 

People who talk about solipsism usually get very hung up on the idea that other meat bags do not come with a limited sensory experience.

There is no truth beyond the senses. Your senses are absolute. All experience is Absolute. Whatever experience you have, is all that is there at the time.

[Carl-Richard]

22 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

There is no truth beyond the senses. Your senses are absolute. All experience is Absolute. Whatever experience you have, is all that is there at the time.

Do you think it's possible that there exist sense perceptions that are currently hidden to you?

[Sempiternity]

To me it's simple. Like in a dream, everything is Consciousness/Mind. The body, the point of view, thoughts, feelings, the environment, other people, is all one thing: Mind/Consciousness. Consciousness has never experienced anything outside of Consciousness. Consciousness can only exist Now. The Eternal Now. If it's not being experienced Now within Consciousness, it does not exist. So this bubble of Consciousness is all that there is. 

Edited November 11, 2024 by Sempiternity

[Javfly33]

19 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Do you think it's possible that there exist sense perceptions that are currently hidden to you?

Don´t even try with him, he was recently hospitalised in mental psychiatric probably not the best dude to get advice from. 

[Arthogaan]

19 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Do you think it's possible that there exist sense perceptions that are currently hidden to you?

Nice question, gets to the core, I would answer:

Any idea of anything hidden is always just a thought. 

To wonder if it is a true thought would be engaging in more thought.

And when I drop all thought there are only THIS sense perceptions.

Nothing is ever hidden, it only seems like it is via thought.

[Carl-Richard]

11 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

Nice question, gets to the core, I would answer:

Any idea of anything hidden is always just a thought. 

To wonder if it is a true thought would be engaging in more thought.

And when I drop all thought there are only THIS sense perceptions.

Nothing is ever hidden, it only seems like it is via thought.

And what are sense perceptions?

[Carl-Richard]

37 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Don´t even try with him, he was recently hospitalised in mental psychiatric probably not the best dude to get advice from. 

I don't care if you have been or even are in the mental hospital as long as you're making sense. Either way, psychoeducation lies in my profession ;D

Edited November 11, 2024 by Carl-Richard

[Breakingthewall]

What we are trying to understand is the infinity, what we are. Solipsism say that the things that you perceive are "mental" then aren't real, only you are real, and this is totally false. That you that perceives is created by the reflection of the reality in itself. What we are is the reality, but this reality has infinite shapes, relative structures, and the solipsist I is the structure not the reality . Mental and real are the same, inside and outside are equal, inside of your mind is the infinity, then everything that appears in your mind is itself infinite. Is the same if it's a person or an energetic vibration that you call thought, it's a fragment of infinity, then it's the totality of the reality. 

Solipsism say: you experience is absolute. And obviously, you experience is relative. 

Solipsism say that is relative to your own mind. But it's nonsensical because your own mind is infinite, then contains the infinity reflected infinitely. You are both, a single reflection and the totality same time, like everything else, because it's infinite 

Edited November 11, 2024 by Breakingthewall