Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[integral]

14 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

@integral They (Sadia) was talking about giving great sex as an asset from the female’s POV. She wasn’t talking from both gender’s POV.

Yes i miss understood her. My mistake lol

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Sadie: Do you think men are more loyal to beautiful women or sexually good women?

Orion: oh depends on the loyalty

Sadie: I would say they're always loyal to whoever gives them the best sex.

 

In general she just goes on a killing spree being 99% rights on everything lol

Edited 13 hours ago by integral

[Natasha Tori Maru]

13 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

This puts things into perspective for me.

Easy to not care about the harsh realities of dating, when you are not the one on the suffering end. Rather the opposite.

I feel the same about Leo's statement.

I'm chopping veggies for dinner last night having my brain turned inside out by it. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, integral said:

Yes i miss understood her. My mistake lol

16:00

Sadie: Do you think men are more loyal to beautiful women or sexually good women?

Orion: oh depends on the loyalty

Sadie: I would say they're always loyal to whoever gives them the best sex.

 

In general she just goes on a killing spree being 99% rights on everything lol

This is a WOOSH for a lot of women. 

I had a radical upbringing regarding openness and sex. It was baked in that I should get good at sex. I was given books on the topic when young, and taught this was a man's love language. You have to communicate love to the person in their language. 

These teachings were from men and women in my life, which really emphasised boundaries and balance 

[integral]

Sadia: Do you think men are more loyal to beautiful women or sexually good women? I would say they’re always loyal to whoever gives them the best sex.

Orion: I don’t know; I think it’s the attractiveness, because I think that a lot of men— guys who are still holding a candle for a woman with borderline personality disorder who treated him very badly, cheated on him, left him in the lurch—but she was the hottest woman that…

Sadia: But was she the hottest or was she the best sex?

Orion: I think it was the hottest.

Sadia: I’d imagine it was the best sex, because those crazy women do give the best sex.

Orion: They tend to, because they have a short-term mating strategy similar to men— they know they can’t sustain long-term, so they give it their all, and that extends to the bedroom. They almost fuck like they’ll never see the guy again. Whereas women with a long-term strategy think they’re going to be with you forever— there’ll be days they go to bed in a face mask and socks on. The woman who thinks it’s only short-term will bring it every single chance she gets. I have told women in consultations that you don’t have to be a borderline to fuck like a borderline, and it might be a really good strategy for some borderline women to get together and teach classes to other women about what to do in the bedroom—they would be unstoppable.

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THIS IS SO Funny and TRUE. I laughed so hard, I dated 2 BPDs and its just the most insane possible sex and I was a dumbass being loyal to one that cheated on me + ghosted. 

Edited 13 hours ago by integral

[integral]

21 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This is a WOOSH for a lot of women. 

I had a radical upbringing regarding openness and sex. It was baked in that I should get good at sex. I was given books on the topic when young, and taught this was a man's love language. You have to communicate love to the person in their language. 

These teachings were from men and women in my life, which really emphasised boundaries and balance 

BOOKS?? Where did you grow up? 

But it's unclear if a woman can truly understand what great sex is to a man?

They might confuse it for like doing certain sexual things or positions and all that, and all of that is wrong.

Great sex for a man is how emotionally invested the woman is during sex.

The more emotionally invested she is the better the sex is.

She has to have sex in that moment as if that was the best sex of her life, that there's no way she could ever be touched that good by a man again, that the hand of God touched her.

The woman has to be crying, like this is the last day of her life. lmfao and she will tell you "that was the best sex i ever had" and she will say that everytime you have sex, and she means it.

And thats BPD sex

Edited 13 hours ago by integral

[Santiago Ram]

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Unconscious and undeveloped people cannot be trusted with freedom. Which is why conservatism is such a powerful and omnipresent force.

Hmmm. That is a dangerous idea. Many people get locked up simply for being perceived weird or 'potentially' dangerous while not doing anything really.

Conservativism is complete Bollocks.

Edited 13 hours ago by Santiago Ram

[Unlimited]

Might be interesting for some of you:

Miles Sonkin (aka Iggy Semmelweiss/“Shi Yan Hui”), who used to run Tate’s War Room, claimed in a conversation I was part of that he had been Osho’s right hand in the past.

Not sure how true that is, but he was, in fact, a member of Osho’s cult.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Running a community involves politics. Few mystics have a good grasp of politics, social dynamics, and how corruption works.

The funny thing about Osho was that he actively discouraged all politics, constantly demonizing politics and politicians. 

https://www.osho.com/highlights-of-oshos-world/osho-on-priests-and-politicians

https://oshoworld.com/what-is-politics

He himself has said that he never voted in his life and he forbid his followers to vote or to participate in politics in any way. He never considered that politicians could be good, or that politics and government was a necessity for managing large societies at a grand scale. 

https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/politicians-anarchism-churchill-4875c941-0be?p=ef71d2db1bc99e4022455f39aeafafbf

He once called himself an anarchist, then a spiritualist communist in a letter to Gorbachev were he stated that he would rather have the third world war than the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

He thought that the Soviet Union could be preserved if it simply adopted his spiritual philosophy.

" Buddha and Marx have to join hands – that is my revolution. Bring Buddha and Marx both together, hand in hand, dancing in the Soviet Union! " - Osho

https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/buddha-karl-marx-zen-25cb0515-b9c?p=c50a05715312689593c59eecb728ec90

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[Santiago Ram]

I'm watching Oshos films AND I get now there Is a big difference between a communal AND a cult.

A communal centered around a single person isnt bad if the person Is Consciouss. The Desert Fathers knew this AND learnt from a single elder as a Way towards Theoria (Direct recognition of God).

Unconsiouss Authority hipnotizes.

Consciouss Authority exorcisises (raises Awareness)

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, integral said:

Sadia: But was she the hottest or was she the best sex?

Orion: I think it was the hottest.

Orion was correct and Sadia was wrong on that point.

There is not this distinction of hot vs best sex.

The quality of sex is linked to the hotness of the girl. The sex is way better if the girl is beautiful even if she is not skilled at it.

A man does not want great sex with a fat ugly woman. He wants great sex with a hot fit woman. A man will gladly sacrifice quality of the sex to get a more beautiful woman. Because he can train her to have better sex. He cannot train her out of ugliness. A man also wants to be proud of his girl around friends. He wants a stunner to show off in public. It is too shameful if she is great in the sack but can't be shown in broad daylight.

The value is in raw beauty, not the skill of sex. The entire point of beauty is that you can't train it, you can't create it, you can't fake it. Most things girls do to create beauty make them uglier. But this truth is too painful for them to accept. So they lie to themselves that they can create the beauty they lack. Because subconsciously they know that men select them based on raw beauty. So they need a way to fake it because most of them don't have it.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

48 minutes ago, integral said:

BOOKS?? Where did you grow up? 

But it's unclear if a woman can truly understand what great sex is to a man?

They might confuse it for like doing certain sexual things or positions and all that, and all of that is wrong.

Great sex for a man is how emotionally invested the woman is during sex.

The more emotionally invested she is the better the sex is.

She has to have sex in that moment as if that was the best sex of her life, that there's no way she could ever be touched that good by a man again, that the hand of God touched her.

The woman has to be crying, like this is the last day of her life. lmfao and she will tell you "that was the best sex i ever had" and she will say that everytime you have sex, and she means it.

And thats BPD sex

You said it. Agree 

I can tell you half that game is knowing your man. Having a strong emotional connection. And during sex, being in such a pure state of absolute being you are no longer a person. Nothing defines you but the experience of floating in sensation. No hangups. No worries. Only the language of touch as your being is lost and the walls of yourself are broken down. 

A smart woman will be able to read and understand that emotional connection and translate it into a physical act. It's not about a position, or liking certain things - as you say. 

That mentally ill sex is all about treating the experience like it's the end of the world and all you have left is the moment with this person. You drown in their eyes, swim in their smell. And crawl into that nook in the man's armpit after 😜

Yeah books ay, I was raised weird. Sex was so baked in. Certain rooms of the house were off limits as kids. It was made clear sex is part of life and we knew about our parents needs. I mean I was told not to put a man's cock in a jar under the sink, metaphorically speaking. Also sex education was from the men to girls, as well as women. Really helps with perspective regarding genders.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Orion was correct and Sadia was wrong on that point.

There is not this distinction of hottest vs best sex.

The quality of sex is linked to the hotness of the girl.

A man does not want great sex with a fat ugly woman. He wants great sex with a hot fit woman. A man will gladly sacrifice quality of the sex to get a more beautiful woman. Because he can train her to have better sex. He cannot train her out of ugliness.

This is a good point - but don't you think your view of the person and how attractive they are change as you fall for them? I know that happens with me. Most of my ex's are not objectively attractive.

But I think you mean purely objectively speaking, maybe Sadia has that emotional lean that all women (Cough cough myself included). 

But I agree that there are certain thresholds for minimum attractiveness 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

but don't you think your view of the person and how attractive they are change as you fall for them?

No. Not for a man.

For a woman it works that way.

Men are visual and women are not.

Edited 12 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No. Not for a man.

For a woman it works that way.

Men are visual and women are not.

Definitely for myself it works that way. I can't really speak for men, so I concede this point to you for sure. 

What I think about the man, how I view and respect him, completely alter how I see him physically. It's emotional yes, but for myself it's much more about intellectual verility. 

I just think physical appearance is fleeting so I place less value on it. Also why I prefer to steer in lanes of aptitude and capability as measures of value (in myself and others) 

[Twentyfirst]

6 hours ago, AION said:

I don’t know that woman but I would take it with a grain of salt. 

She makes good points. Allison is up there with the David Diedas and Zan Perrions imo

[Santiago Ram]

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Men require effectiveness in order to be providers. Winning a war for your tribe requires that you prioritize brutal truth over warmth and feelings

 

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No investor, no sugar-daddy, no man was going to save me if I failed. Nothing leads to business failure as surely as fantasy. 

 

And from a previous entry on The Corruption of Success

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The more success you get, the more out of touch and delusional your mind gets, as you get insulated from survival

So @Leo Gura is doing economic Survival necessary for Truth-seeking?

Edited 11 hours ago by Santiago Ram

[Davino]

The masculine values Truth. Why? Because Truth=Power

The feminine values Love. Why? Because Love=Life=Feelings

 

I can corroborate the last blog post as I had the same insights independently.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

- but don't you think your view of the person and how attractive they are change as you fall for them?

No, that's how women fall in love, not men. Men will fall out of....if the woman loses her attractiveness. A woman can fall madly for an unattractive man who cares for her and he becomes to her the most attractive man in the room.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I just think physical appearance is fleeting so I place less value on it.

Women are the source of physical beauty so they don't need that from men.

You need from men what you don't have, not what you have.

Woman supplies the beauty, man supplies the leadership. Woman worships the leadership, man worships the beauty.

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[Leo Gura]

57 minutes ago, Santiago Ram said:

So @Leo Gura is doing economic Survival necessary for Truth-seeking?

It is not necessary and even harmful, however, having your survival handed to you on a silver platter is even worse for truth-seeking.

Mastering survival is a good training foundation for serious truth-seeking. People who are unable to master survival have almost no hope of being able to handle the truth-seeking journey. They are too spoiled and too soft. Truth-seeking requires discipline and hard work. A soft, lazy, spoiled person cannot do truth-seeking.

So in this sense I would rather someone hard work on economic success than sit around playing video games and smoking weed in his mother's basement.

I can take someone with a killer work-ethic and help him apply it to realizing God. I cannot do the same with a spoiled video game playing 4chan loser who cannot even discipline himself to approach a girl on the street.

If you can't approach a girl, how the fuck are you going to handle the weight of realizing God?

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura