Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

So air is non-physical?

One can compress Air. 

[oOo]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

So air is non-physical?

Air is physical, and has degrees of non-physicality relative to a chair, or a cool ass looking Christmas beetle. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

7 minutes ago, oOo said:

Air is physical, and has degrees of non-physicality relative to a chair, or a cool ass looking Christmas beetle. 

When you compress air to the highest possible degree under extreme conditions (millions of atmospheres), the gases in the air turn into liquids, solids, and even metals. [1, 2]

Extreme Phase Changes

Extreme Heat: Squeezing air forces its molecules into a tiny space, causing them to crash into each other rapidly. This creates a massive surge in temperature.

Liquid Air: If you cool the air while pressing it, the gases turn into liquid.

Color Changes in Oxygen: Past 10,000 atmospheres, oxygen turns pink, then red, and then orange.

Nitrogen Chains: Around 20,000 atmospheres, nitrogen molecules link up to form chains and rings.

Metallic Oxygen and Solid Nitrogen: Above 950,000 atmospheres, oxygen turns into a shiny metal that conducts electricity. Above 1 million atmospheres, nitrogen turns into a solid polymer network that stores huge amounts of energy.

Superconductivity: At very high pressures and low temperatures, compressed oxygen can even become a superconductor with zero electrical resistance

Sometimes one forget that something simple of air have such Mystery on itself. 

 

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

One can compress Air. 

Don't forget you can compress non-physical things.

So space is non-physical?

[Rafael Thundercat]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't forget you can compress non-physical things.

So space is non-physical?

How could we compress a non-physical? We will enter the SpaceTime compression here? I am not good with Equations

Edited 19 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[oOo]

5 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

How could we compress a non-physical? I never heard of space being compressed. 

Be less black and white about it. 

Think degrees.

Physicalism is spectrum and spectrum requires spectacles.

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

How could we compress a non-physical? I never heard of space being compressed. 

Since everything is non-physical, all compression has always been non-physical.

Space is literally compressed by gravity, according to science.

And you cannot say space is non-physical, since it is the subject of physics.

If you say that space is non-physical, then you have admitted that the source of all physical things is non-physical.

You do not know what physical is, stop pretending like you do. You don't know what physical is so profoundly that you don't even know if physical exists at all. Don't forget to consider than physical may not be a thing at all.

Edited 19 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you say that space is non-physical, then you have admitted that the source of all physical things is non-physical.

If you mean the space dark in the nigth sky as being non-physical I would ask what defines non-physical? If I make a definition it would only change the name and not clarify it at all.

Tomorrow I will wake up and swim in a non-physical ocean in my front door? Whatever I call it, when I jump in the water there is something there,i feel it, I am affected by if, calling physical or non-physical changes nothing in the experience. 

[Leo Gura]

50 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

If you mean the space dark in the nigth sky as being non-physical I would ask what defines non-physical? If I make a definition it would only change the name and not clarify it at all.

Tomorrow I will wake up and swim in a non-physical ocean in my front door? Whatever I call it, when I jump in the water there is something there,i feel it, I am affected by if, calling physical or non-physical changes nothing in the experience. 

Non-physical is different in kind from physical, since non-physical is not a category, non-physical is the absence of category.

What is really meant by non-physical is, Undefined and Uncategorized.

There is a profound experiential difference between the ocean being physical vs Undefined. Your experience of the ocean would change if you become conscious that it is not physical.

I am never doing word games. We are talking about differences in consciousness.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

Where is the physicality of objects when anything you experience through your sensory fields are the things that make the fields fundamentally distinct from each other—such as feeling, sound, etc.?

Physicality assumes that objects you experience through your sensory fields are independent from or exist outside of those sensory fields.

People assume that anything outside the norm of what they label as physical is not real. They don't seem to understand that any object they encounter is perceived through their sensory fields, which they use to label the object of their direct experiences as physical in the first place. It's fallacious because their assumption causes an infinite regress, and yet they think they have discovered something fundamental about reality.

Saying that reality is physical is essentially no different from believing that God exists.

Also, they don't understand that, regardless of how limited their imagination is, any object they can imagine exists as a potential that will emerge within the infinite holarchies of their own sensory fields if they zoom in or out far enough.

Edited 29 minutes ago by Nemra

[Ulax]

Damn. One million views on this thread 

[Nemra]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

Also, they don't understand that, regardless of how limited their imagination is, any object they can imagine exists as a potential that will emerge within the infinite holarchies of their own sensory fields if they zoom in or out far enough.

I think that's why scientific discoveries, such as atoms, wouldn't be discovered without imagination, regardless of how accurately the imagination reflects the actuality of the discovery beforehand.

Edited 7 hours ago by Nemra

[Human Mint]

I don't understand yet how physics is imagination. But I can say that the quality of my life depends exclusively on how deep is my imagination. To me imagination is identical to happiness. I was happier as a kid not because I hade lots of money, but because I had just more imagination.

[Zenterus]

Is it just me or has Leo unprivated a lot of old videos that I haven't seen, which is why they keep popping up as recommendations on Youtube?

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Zenterus said:

Is it just me or has Leo unprivated a lot of old videos that I haven't seen, which is why they keep popping up as recommendations on Youtube?

I do not know what you mean. Please provide example videos. 

[Joseph Maynor]

I feel like this blog post also applies to spirituality and spiritual teachers too.  Replace science with spirituality and scientist with spiritual teacher.

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-753

Edited 3 hours ago by Joseph Maynor

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Leo Gura I like the Notion of Bigot Spirit. And also, there may be no human alive with no level of bigotry. Some more stubborn that others but everyone still bigoting a lot. Me included. 

"Bigotry is a much deeper problem than religion" 

Is this a feature of the specie?  If came to be there must be precedents in evolution. 

😂 the etimology if the word itself have originns in God..

This is what a search gave me :

Bigotry stems from an evolutionary tendency to favor one's own group combined with learned social behaviors, while the word itself dates back to 12th-century French The Atlantic.

Here is a breakdown of where bigotry comes from, both as a concept and a word.

Etymological Origin of the Word

Old French roots: The term "bigot" appeared in 12th-century France. Its exact origin remains uncertain.

The Norman insult: Scholars believe the French used bigot as a mock nickname for Normans. The Normans frequently used the English oath "bi God" (by God).

Religious hypocrisy: By the 1590s in English, a bigot meant a religious hypocrite or a sanctimonious person.

Broader meaning: People began applying the word to non-religious opinions and intolerance in the 1680s. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Nemra]

5 hours ago, Human Mint said:

I don't understand yet how physics is imagination.

Do you mean physics as the mechanics of things or things being physical?

The former is independent from physicalism.

The latter is about physicalism, which is inherently materialistic.

Here is my take against physicalism:

 

 

Edited 26 minutes ago by Nemra