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[Davino]

@UnbornTao Is that message directed to me?

If so, I don't care about looking intelligent because that attitude actually is a lower form of intelligence and an obstacle towards truth.

I genuinely asked about a connection I didn't understand. I just couldn't see how identity and omnipotence could be linked, if you really contemplate, it's quite a claim. I wonder how many people did get it or really wanted to know. Leo explained it and I had the insight plus a mini-Awakening. That's why what I wrote may sound a bit different than my usual style, due to the state shift as I was writing. There's no big deal anyways.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Davino said:

given the right consciousness one rests in pure Omnipotent nature

As long as you have a human form you cannot be Omnipotent. The only Omnipotent thing is formlessness/death.

Any form limits you.

[UnbornTao]

@Davino

Not specifically. It's a general tendency I've noticed, and I included myself in that.

Yeah, that relates to my point. Talk is very cheap. It went over your head.

It's the same kind of BS as thinking one has grasped what Ramana was trying to communicate. That disparity, or gap, is what I'm trying to draw attention to.

If this were a religion, one would be looking for ways to validate it, and eventually one might even succeed in doing so. The self-assuredness doesn't mean anything. This often takes the form of a purely intellectual endeavor. As such, it's a rather artificial ground from which to approach the work.

[Davino]

@UnbornTao I like a quote by Sri Anandamayi Ma that goes: "One thing is to have no doubts and another to realize a truth beyond all doubts"

Religion lives in the former, mysticism in the latter.

[UnbornTao]

15 minutes ago, Davino said:

@UnbornTao I like a quote by Sri Anandamayi Ma that goes: "One thing is to have no doubts and another to realize a truth beyond all doubts"

Religion lives in the former, mysticism in the latter.

Yeah, I don't think my point landed. Fuck them both.

Edited 15 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Davino]

@UnbornTao If I understood correctly, your point is on the difference between intellectual understanding and experience or realisation. That gap is what you're trying to point.

My comment was building on the intellectual consequences of both stances.

[UnbornTao]

3 hours ago, Davino said:

@UnbornTao If I understood correctly, your point is on the difference between intellectual understanding and experience or realisation. That gap is what you're trying to point.

My comment was building on the intellectual consequences of both stances.

Sort of. The point is likely still being missed, as one may still be operating from an intellectual world, as you alluded to. 

Have you seen cult members and their thinking and apparent certainty in the adopted doctrine's tenets? Consider that this might be a possibility here: believing stuff - certainly good-sounding and affirming stuff, though. It might even make one feel good. 

Or perhaps, in other words, you can easily make up shit in your mind. Chances are it is heavily biased, subjective, and based on wishful thinking. 

[UnbornTao]

First, learn to tell your ass from a hole in the ground

 

Edited 5 hours ago by UnbornTao