Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Rafael Thundercat]

7 hours ago, OBEler said:

Please don't distort true insights just to protect some of us. I know you have some black pill in your pocket ready to throw at us. But you are too concerned.

Dont you think posts like NXIUM’s is not blackpill enogth? 

[Leo Gura]

My old style was not aligned with truth because triggering the ego is not an effective way of guiding people to truth.

My new style is more truthful, conscious, and loving. So I am not going back. Actually, even my new style will evolve into a more conscious and loving one.

My old ways were immature.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

That's amazing Leo. I appreciate your old teaching style and I do see your evolution of how you teach. I've seen you grow through the last two years especially. We need an episode on conscious communication.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

There's been a shift from less communication to increased facilitation for sure

[Joshe]

10 hours ago, OBEler said:

I know you have some black pill in your pocket ready to throw at us. 

Coming from someone who has blackpilled himself since childhood, eventually, you see all the black there is to see. If I understand the term correctly, black pill is just cold, hard truth. There’s only so many truths like that to be discovered. And they they usually fit neatly into categories: human relations, corruption, ego, power, survival, etc. Once you see the main black pills from each category and accept them, learning about infinite examples of black pills within the categories is a waste of time IMO, but I understand the appeal to engage with the darkness.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Joshe

[Something Funny]

@Leo Guraregarding your last post, maybe it's a pointless question, but do you not consider psychedelics "human"?

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Leo Guraregarding your last post, maybe it's a pointless question, but do you not consider psychedelics "human"?

I do not.

[OBEler]

@Joshe yes exactly. I got black pilled a lot but I feel I could still miss something.I have FOMO on black pills.

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, lately, I have been watching interviews and lectures by Terrence McKenna.

He has been suggesting that psilocybin-containing mushrooms have a lot to do with making us different from other animals in terms of cognitive abilities.

I don't know how much of that is true, but it sounds reasonable.

I think there has to be a connection between early use of psychedelics and the need of humans to fill themselves with concepts that they think describe reality.

What do you say?

Edited July 28, 2025 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, lately, I have been watching interviews and lectures by Terrence McKenna.

He has been suggesting that psilocybin-containing mushrooms have a lot to do with making us different from other animals in terms of cognitive abilities.

I don't know how much of that is true, but it sounds reasonable.

I think there has to be a connection between early use of psychedelics and the need of humans to fill themselves with concepts that they think describe reality.

What do you say?

It is nonsense.

Terrence had plenty of bad ideas. Stoned Ape Theory is one of them.

[Jehovah increases]

[Nemra]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is nonsense.

Terrence had plenty of bad ideas. Stoned Ape Theory is one of them.

I read in his Wikipedia that he didn't prefer synthetic psychedelics because they didn't evolve with humans, which, to be honest, is quite absurd to me.

Setting aside the stoned ape theory, do you think there is a connection between psychedelics and the human experience or is the connection so trivial that it isn't something to consider that has been affecting humans long-term?

Edited July 28, 2025 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Nemra said:

do you think there is a connection between psychedelics and the human experience 

What connection?

Is there a connection between coffee and the human experience?

[Jehovah increases]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

What connection?

Is there a connection between coffee and the human experience?

[Nemra]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What connection?

Is there a connection between coffee and the human experience?

Maybe, I don't know.

Don't the things any surviving thing consumes in long-term effects/changes them?

Why do humans even need to fill themselves with concepts that they think describe reality? Why and how did humans evolve to even care about such a thing, even if they don't care about truth?

I wasn't claiming that mushrooms are the sole reason, but they might be a significant one.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Why do humans even need to fill themselves with concepts

Has zero to do with mushrooms.

[Jehovah increases]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Has zero to do with mushrooms.

[Nemra]

22 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Has zero to do with mushrooms.

So, what would you say has had a significant effect on the evolution of humans needing to make claims about reality?

Edited July 28, 2025 by Nemra

[Jehovah increases]

Is God an infinite fractile upon itself then Yes

Edited July 28, 2025 by Jehovah increases

[Xonas Pitfall]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

Why do humans even need to fill themselves with concepts that they think describe reality? Why and how did humans evolve to even care about such a thing, even if they don't care about truth?

Mosquitoes evolved to produce many offspring because the survival rate for each individual is low (Female mosquitoes typically lay a large number of eggs, with some species laying up to 300 eggs at a time), and most of them won’t make it past birth. You could think of it as each mosquito exploring a different "path" in reality, and natural selection acts as a filter, keeping only the ones that survive. At some point, evolution realized that if an organism could "pre-abstract" the consequences of actions by observing past outcomes, it wouldn't need to spawn multitudes of offspring just to ensure one survives.

This is especially important for animals that take a long time to give birth to a single offspring, making it impractical to have so many. The ability to predict and understand your environment became a huge evolutionary advantage, just like long-term memory. For example, if I can remember that the last five cavemen who went down a certain path didn’t return alive, I can deduce that the path is dangerous and avoid it. If I can recall past seasons, I can plan for the winter and manage my resources better. Even better, if I can understand the why behind the seasons, I can prepare for an early winter and avoid being caught off guard.

This cognitive ability is a huge survival benefit, and the same principle applies in the modern world. You want to know the truth about your business partner because you don’t want to be taken advantage of. You need to understand your romantic partner’s behavior to avoid planning a future with someone who might betray you. Career planning requires abstract thinking too: understanding how you might feel in different roles, anticipating the harsh realities of corporate work before you join. All of these are high-level, conceptual, abstract thinking required to survive most optimally.

In the past, understanding why thunder occurred helped you avoid placing your house in dangerous places. Today, if you understand why certain things happen, you can manage your life better. This is also why early religions and pagan beliefs developed; they sought to explain external forces beyond human control, so people could navigate their reality more effectively. 

"Okay, so I understand that a flood might happen at random times, and that’s not ideal. I don’t like that. Hmm, why does the flood happen? What’s the truth behind it? Oh, it must be a flood God! I should give sacrifices to the flood God so they won’t be upset with me! Of course!"

This is a primitive example of how truth-seeking happens.

Truth is both practical and, at times, impractical for survival. But it makes a lot of sense why we evolved to seek it.

Think of it like this: If you were inside a video game, wouldn't you want to know if there’s a “God mode,” a cheat, or a glitch you can use to navigate the game better? If you could understand how the game was made, you'd have an advantage and could use that knowledge to "win." This is highly appealing to the ego. Ego loves the idea of God, using it as a tool for survival. Little does the ego realize, it’s actually seeking its own self-annihilation with that exact wish.

Truth means understanding the cause, and most of the time, we seek to know the cause of things so we can navigate better.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Xonas Pitfall