Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Onecirrus]

I notice women rarely give a shit about getting results, empty platitudes about success and veneers of self development seem more popular with them. Even something like a hobby, they aren’t as hardcore about it.

[Leo Gura]

Women also don't want solutions to their problems. They want to be heard, empathized with, and validated.

Truth would solve their problem, but they don't want that. They want emotional support for the same problem that never ends.

Edited Saturday at 10:43 AM by Leo Gura

[Deziree]

Social survival also aids physical survival and physical survival aids social survival. I don't understand how anyone can miss this essential link. 

 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Deziree said:

Social survival also aids physical survival and physical survival aids social survival. I don't understand how anyone can miss this essential link.

Of course there is that feedback loop. But it's so easy to get lost in the illusions of social survival.

The social domain is a quagmire of human noise, drama, politics, self-deception, and evil. It is wrestling with pigs. You will walk away soaked in shit. Truth will be the first casualty. Which is why people are so disgusted with politics.

Edited Saturday at 10:48 AM by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Women also don't want solutions to their problems. They want to be heard, empathized with, and validated.

Truth would solve their problem, but they don't want that. They want emotional support for the same problem that never ends.

In their own twisted way, this is the flowering intelligence of a woman.

She loves the drama of intense ups and downs with such sincerity that she'd actually rather ride that wave than to kill the spectacle with "solutions" like a boring, linear, dry male.

[Onecirrus]

I’ve also never met a female zealot or ideologue. Has there ever been a woman equivalent to the unabomber? A lot of men eat hardcore ideology for breakfast.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

She loves the drama of intense ups and downs with such sincerity that she'd actually rather ride that wave than to kill the spectacle with "solutions" like a boring, linear, dry male.

That's exactly what makes transcending Maya so difficult for a woman.

Escaping Maya's snare requires a cold detachment which favors the masculine.

Edited Saturday at 10:50 AM by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

Just now, Onecirrus said:

I’ve also never met a female zealot or ideologue. Has there ever been a woman equivalent to the unabomber? A lot of men eat hardcore ideology for breakfast.

They're all like this with their crystals and star signs lmao.

They just conduct social violence (indirect reputation battles) against their foes rather than kinetic violence like terrorist bombings

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Onecirrus said:

I’ve also never met a female zealot or ideologue.

Of course there are!

Women are deluded with ideology as much as men. They just aren't as ruthless and violent.

Edited Saturday at 10:55 AM by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course there are!

 

ah fuck..

[Vynce]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Women also don't want solutions to their problems. They want to be heard, empathized with, and validated.

Truth would solve their problem, but they don't want that. They want emotional support for the same problem that never ends.

I mean children and social circle are basically problems that never end, haha.

So their neurology prompts them to become masterful at that. 
 

So actually direct truth would hurt more than it helps. 
 

God (women) is already at maximum efficiency and intelligence.

Edited Saturday at 10:58 AM by Vynce

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course there are!

Women are deluded with ideology as much as men.

Would you consider her a masculine or feminine deluded figure?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Yes, this is good advice to men. I wish I learned this long ago, but only because I operate from a solutions mindset and fuck off all the women in my family.

I had to preface most conversations early on with 'Do you need a solution or some advice, or is this just getting it off your chest?'

You send women off the rails when you try to give unwanted advice. They will consider you lecturing and arrogant. They will also feel you disregarded their feelings as the solution you present is often interpreted as undermining them, instead of holding space for them. They want you to focus on sharing the experience and understanding.

Sometimes I want to rant and offload - but I always preface by letting the person know its just that. No input needed. Again this is really rare for me, as I do all my emotional processing inside. If i want outside advice, its simply to check if I have considered all angles effectively.

[Keryo Koffa]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

At first I thought that cycle of violence context speech was quite wise...
then I realized my inner SD Green got bamboozled by SD Purple again.

Edited Saturday at 11:01 AM by Keryo Koffa

[Keryo Koffa]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Truth would solve their problem, but they don't want that.
They want emotional support for the same problem that never ends.

Remember when you talked of mental masturbation in intellectualism.
Well, it's that, but milking emotions instead.

Or maybe it's reenacting scenes, to heal internalized trauma of abandonment... nahhhh!

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Would you consider her a masculine or feminine deluded figure?

She's an old crone so it's hard to tell. Older women lose their femininity from what I gather. The difference between masculine and feminine fades by the 60s.

[Onecirrus]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course there are!

Women are deluded with ideology as much as men. They just aren't as ruthless and violent.

I guess I’m just not around enough stage blue women. Hot takes on The View are usually the spiciest politics I hear from them.

[RendHeaven]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's exactly what makes transcending Maya so difficult for a woman.

Escaping Maya's snare requires a cold detachment which favors the masculine.

@Leo Gura That makes sense.

What I like about Emerald's story is that she's very vocal about how she glanced at the possibility of omniscient solipsistic infinity during an aya ceremony, but then collapsed back into her dream character out of overwhelm. The takeaway lesson for her was to cherish the finite. That's very honest, and true to the soul of a woman.

You could accuse her of throwing in the towel too early, but from her POV she made the most appropriate choice for herself. There might be something universal about her journey that can predict the trajectory that most feminine souls will follow. It's simply not a woman's job to transcend and annihilate. In her eyes, she has better things to do here on earth.

The object of her loyalty (earthly affairs) might look like peanuts next to the vantage point of God - but somebody has to attend to the minutiae with great care. You can imagine that God created women in order so that the things you don't care about are given sufficient attention and love. This way, every finite object in the universe has its respective adorer and steward. 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Remember when you talked of mental masturbation in intellectualism.
Well, it's that, but milking emotions instead.

Or maybe it's reenacting scenes, to heal internalized trauma of abandonment... nahhhh!

Well, for a woman emotional support has a value all its own that men don't need because they have less emotions.

It's not necessarily that they are milking it, they are more sensitive and moody, and they can't shut it off.

Edited Saturday at 11:07 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Older women lose their femininity from what I gather.

There is a decline for sure. Witnessed it in my family (seen the transition in 4 women).

'You stop giving a fuck' 

They all become much more comfortable being disagreeable.