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[Natasha Tori Maru]

You could replace 'Wikipedia' with 'Bible' here, as a good perspective shaper.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, PenguinPablo said:

I'm just using it to manifest the dream life :'(

But if more interesting things happen, I welcome it. It's an interesting program. But for sure, you need to be able to relax to go into those deeper, weirder places.

The tapes do help with focus - this seems to be an effect commonly perceived. I noticed instantly. It helps if you prep your body and mind to be sensitive: nail sleep, good food. Move the body. No drugs. Clean air. Clean thoughts - this one is overlooked.

OBEs and all sorts of other results are more esoteric.

I didn't expect anything going in 

[Leo Gura]

Binaural beats work. They change your brain wave state. But whether this results in OBEs is going to be a pretty rare genetic thing. For me they never result in OBEs or any mystical states. But they do change my state.

Edited May 21 by Leo Gura

[CARDOZZO]

 

[aurum]

I assumed remote viewing must be possible to learn in the initial stages of my Awakening.

This turned out to be wrong. I was very bad at it.

I still think it's possible, but it seems clear it's not just a talent everyone unlocks on their spiritual journey.

[PenguinPablo]

5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The tapes do help with focus - this seems to be an effect commonly perceived. I noticed instantly. It helps if you prep your body and mind to be sensitive: nail sleep, good food. Move the body. No drugs. Clean air. Clean thoughts - this one is overlooked.

OBEs and all sorts of other results are more esoteric.

I didn't expect anything going in 

Just had the deepest session so far.

Practicing with focus 10.

Entered a different state.

Very calm and at peace. All desire and striving dissipated entirely. Compulsory thinking, substantially, etc... Letting go of control. 

I enjoyed it a lot.

 

Edited May 21 by PenguinPablo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

12 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

Just had the deepest session so far.

Practicing with focus 10.

Entered a different state.

Very calm and at peace. All desire and striving dissipated entirely. Compulsory thinking, substantially, etc... Letting go of control. 

I enjoyed it a lot.

 

I redo Focus 10 on the regular! What does your energy conversion box look like? Everyone's is so personal.

Focus 12 was where things went really wonky for me with OBE stuff.

[Davino]

Very interesting what you posted about The Boy Who Could Read With His Ears

What blows my mind is how the survival drive of agencies trumps traditional science and metaphysics just for having the edge. It's quite astonishing to see how they consider such radical possibilities just to have a survival advantatge even if it goes against all common scientific knowledge.

Btw, I loved the last quote from the CIA:

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Most philosophers of science would agree that there is no sharp line separating science from pseudoscience. The reality of EHF may be highly improbable, but science cannot tell us that it is absolutely impossible. As Carl Sagan says, the best antidote for pseudoscience is more and better science. Only further controlled demonstrations will demonstrate whether EHF is real or nonsense. If EHF is valid after all, the payoff would be immense. As professor Dong Taihe, of Shejiang University, observes, " A whole new branch of science could just be waiting to be discovered"

 

[PenguinPablo]

@Natasha Tori Maru I don't emphasize it a lot. My mind is aphantic. Usually I focus on the feeling, the physical action (mentally), intention.

But I can try doing a pink metal box.

[Dazgwny]

If you can remain mentally aware yet go to sleep you can have an OBE. It is that simple. Body asleep mind awake. It takes effort to do that, but you can also fluke it. It’s just a state you can enter into. Meditative. But you don’t have to sit there meditating, you can just do it when you go to bed. I certainly wouldn’t class my OBE’s as remote viewing though, never would I trust the shit I’ve saw for remote viewing, that’s clearly a different thing. Astral shit and that most definitely. But I’d imagine the process is somewhat similar, and some serious training necessary

[abundance]

Has anyone tried doing the Gateway Tapes? 

https://open.spotify.com/show/3TBVPYdnaEHlac76pGX2Q9

This is a program created by the Monroe Institute. 

I did the first one last night (Orientation) and I had a intense vibrations. Supposedly this is a precursor to having an OBE. I focused on my breath during the experience and they became less intense. I guess I could have went through with having an OBE but wasn't ready.

Prior to doing it I had a lot of tension in my head due to stress. It has since decipated which is a plus. I also feel a sense of peace I didn't have before. 

I did have a brief period afterwards of derealization which made me panic. I looked at my hands and had the realization that reality is a 'dream'. And that I'm playing out a story in which I (the ego 'I' ) has no control. Is this what enlightenment feels like? Exisistential horror?

Afterwards I went to my bedroom held on tight to my pillow and repeated the words 'Jesus is Love'. I then watched some stupid YT videos to ground myself. 

 

 

 

 

[CARDOZZO]

Gateway Tapes are amazing.

The real problem is that I've become afraid after a indigenous woman appeared praying on the edge of my bed. (Real, Not Kidding)

Edited May 21 by CARDOZZO

[abundance]

5 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Gateway Tapes are amazing.

The real problem is that I've become afraid after a indigenous woman appeared praying on the edge of my bed. (Real, Not Kidding)

That's terrifyng!

Did you try interacting with her? I guess its only natural to have fear as a default. I've heard when you encounter entities with love and compassion they become less threatening. 

 

Edited May 21 by abundance

[CARDOZZO]

20 minutes ago, abundance said:

That's terrifyng!

Did you try interacting with her? 

 

Of course not, I was afraid as a kid. 

I was reading "Journeys Out Of Body" by Bob Monroe.  He said "If you are not ready, do not open the door". 

Paranormal stuff is not a joke. Take care. You must be prepared to all these things. 

[hundreth]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't say purely. I said mostly.

Learning anything assumes a genetic capacity for it. Which is why a baboon cannot learn geometry.

The US military tried to train regular army men to do remote viewing, and they failed. It only works on people who have the right genetic foundation.

This is not theory, this has been tried.

The people who are good at remote viewing are self-selecting. They are good because if they were bad they wouldn't be talking about it, they would be saying remote viewing is bullshit.

All abilities related to consciousness must be heavily genetic because that is the only way to account for how rare high consciousness is. It is rare not for lack of effort. It is rare because it requires specific machinery. A Buddha or a Jesus is not just a guy who trains hard, he is a genetic freak who also happens to train hard.

Serious psychics are genetic freaks. They must be, otherwise everyone would be a psychic and the skill would be meaningless. The only reason you think psychics are special and magic is because they are so rare. A normal man in a sea of blind men is a magical wizard.

I have shared countless examples of genetic freaks with you for this reason. How many more must I share before you see the light?

I dunno man, the implication from your blog posts is that if the US government had a remote viewing program, then there's credibility to remote viewing.

I don't see it that way. The "only works on genetic freaks" is another cop out in a long line of excuses for why paranormal phenomena always fails under controlled environments.

No one has ever won James Randi's paranormal prize despite tons of attempts. No one has ever proven paranormal or psychic abilities in a controlled environment. Ever.

Now that doesn't mean the materialist paradigm is correct, or that there's no magic in the universe, etc. All it points to is that most likely our fixed context of existence has a very rigid set of boundaries. That so far, no one is able to surpass them on a physical level when examined in an unbiased manner. Nothing more, nothing less.

Edited May 21 by hundreth

[jimwell]

21 minutes ago, abundance said:

Has anyone tried doing the Gateway Tapes? 

https://open.spotify.com/show/3TBVPYdnaEHlac76pGX2Q9

This is a program created by the Monroe Institute. 

Thanks.

I've found a better playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0NI6PrkM4RHojdKh17w9Ku?si=c81f03c926204f71

I want to try this but I hesitate because of the risks. Schizophrenia runs in my family. My grandmother suffered from it. At this point in my life, I can't take such risks.

 

12 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Gateway Tapes are amazing.

The real problem is that I've become afraid after a indigenous woman appeared praying on the edge of my bed. (Real, Not Kidding)

Damn! This has made me more hesitant.

[CARDOZZO]

21 minutes ago, jimwell said:

Damn! This has made me more hesitant.

Don't be fearful. Experience for yourself. 

The only thing that I recommend is to be ready. You are going to uncharted territory. 

 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, hundreth said:

The "only works on genetic freaks" is another cop out in a long line of excuses for why paranormal phenomena always fails under controlled environments.

You are just factually mistaken.

I has been shown to work over and over again in controlled environments.

That's what Russell Targ's CIA lab did. They spent a decade doing this.

[Raskara]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't say purely. I said mostly.

Learning anything assumes a genetic capacity for it. Which is why a baboon cannot learn geometry.

The US military tried to train regular army men to do remote viewing, and they failed. It only works on people who have the right genetic foundation.

This is not theory, this has been tried.

The people who are good at remote viewing are self-selecting. They are good because if they were bad they wouldn't be talking about it, they would be saying remote viewing is bullshit.

All abilities related to consciousness must be heavily genetic because that is the only way to account for how rare high consciousness is. It is rare not for lack of effort. It is rare because it requires specific machinery. A Buddha or a Jesus is not just a guy who trains hard, he is a genetic freak who also happens to train hard.

Serious psychics are genetic freaks. They must be, otherwise everyone would be a psychic and the skill would be meaningless. The only reason you think psychics are special and magic is because they are so rare. A normal man in a sea of blind men is a magical wizard.

I have shared countless examples of genetic freaks with you for this reason. How many more must I share before you see the light?

 

I read in your blog post that you've studied remote viewing extensively. I'm curious, have you ever attempted it yourself? If so, did you experience any success?Also, I noticed you emphasize the role of genetics in developing psychic abilities and it's importance on being able to access higher states of consciousness even calling people like sadhguru genetic freaks. Do you think it's possible for the average person if passionate enough to alter their genetic makeup and attain such abilities, or are we essentially limited to the traits we've always had like what u are saying with the soldiers who failed? What's your perspective on the field of epigenetics? And to what extent do you agree with Dr. Joe Dispenza's views on this topic? I have been using Monroe hemi sync tapes for years(4) and i only have positive things to say about them, they helped open my mind a lot.

[CARDOZZO]

It was really strange because it was a mix of sexual feelings and fear. 

I felt a sexual vibe around her. She was praying with a malicious smirk on her face.