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Israel / Palestine News Thread

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6 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

If Israelis wish the war ends it will only be for selfish reasons. Just like Americans don't want more war because of the national debt skyrocketing 

They don't care about human rights

I don’t believe you care that much about human rights either habub.

You care more about attacking the west imo.

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On most topics there seems to be a polarised 50/50 split down the middle on things being debated politically - yet on Israel the political apparatus is unanimous - it bends over backwards. Like the recent amendment vote on the bill to supply Israel €500 mill for the Iron Dome - which AOC got a lot of heat for voting against. The result was 466-6: only 6 in favour for the amendment to remove the funding.


The US is either completely cucked by Israel which only feeds into the stereotype of “the joos” controlling nations like some cabal. Or the US see’s Israel as its own (a 51st state) so they take its defence personally. Either way, the US State (not people) are either cucked or cuckoo in the head, just as cuckoo as extremist Zionists.

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Chat GPT:

“Criticism of “the West” isn’t about blaming individuals. It’s about holding accountable the structures, institutions, and narratives that enable and excuse mass suffering.

Most Westerners don’t consciously support the killing of civilians. But the political systems, media framing, and foreign policy apparatus that act in their name often do. This is what people mean when they say “the West is complicit.”

It’s about the empire that claims to represent you — and acts as if it owns the moral high ground while subsidizing the machinery of domination elsewhere.”

 

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8 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

I don’t believe you care that much about human rights either habub.

You care more about attacking the west imo.

Attacking the west = defending human rights

You just believe that you have more rights in the west than elsewhere which clouds your vision. You are just as much a victim as those in Gaza

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So, that's how the Holocaust happened. Interestingly, many did not believe or grasp the full extent of it until after WWII ended. Nowadays, we also see that the world is divided. There are a lot of people who don't believe in Genocide in Gaza or think they deserve it because of the hostages of other bullcrup.

Nazis claimed deportations were for “resettlement” or “labor”. Israel exterminates Palestinians and simply blames Hamas; calls civilian deaths “unintended” or “Hamas’ fault”.
At least this time, during the Palestinian Holocaust, there are a lot of protests and some states do something like Ireland or Spain, which puts hope into the people...

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@PurpleTree So you think the people who are starving babies and kids to death for shits and giggles are going to turn around and just somehow treat you well? What reason do they have to treat you well? All humans are just animals for them to slaughter. You are not safe from them as a Westerner just like  there is no safety from them for anyone who isn't white. If they can do it to these people without losing sleep they can do it to you and your people. It's not a hard concept to grasp

 

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1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Even Sky news now

My god, it got worse the longer you listen to it. The stopping of baby formula, then the clustering and pattern of different areas of the body being shot at each day as if it’s a game - like the title said “target practice”.

This is another from Sky news: 

Everything is just Hamas’s fault or Hamas propaganda. Do Israelis and their Western conspirers think Hamas have some blackmail Epstein level kompromat on all these Western doctors and global aid agencies - to have blackmailed them into taking the Palestinians side? Or is it just the facts on the ground that the Israeli government is genocidal?

Even if it isn’t state policy, the fact is Israeli soldiers themselves act genocidally individually on the field - most evidently at the aid sites daily. It’s not “just Bibi” - its a sick rot in that country - and a sick terrorist state of the US who’s the only one that can stop it but isn’t.

Israel and US are the devils of the world and rightfully are hated by the world. If the tables ever turn to where the East and South have more power than the West - let’s hope they have and show mercy upon a relatively weaker and unstable West, for the crimes they have done.

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27 minutes ago, zazen said:

Israel and US are the devils of the world and rightfully are hated by the world. If the tables ever turn to where the East and South have more power than the West - let’s hope they have and show mercy upon a relatively weaker and unstable West, for the crimes they have done

I think you're exaggerating. All countries that have had power have been extremely evil. We'll see what happens when the Chinese take the lead. For now, they say they're absolutely pacifist, but in the Sudan war, much more terrible than the one in Gaza, they sell weapons to both sides, greatly increasing the suffering of civilians for economic gain. Does this sound familiar?

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25 minutes ago, zazen said:

 

If the tables ever turn to where the East and South have more power than the West - let’s hope they have and show mercy upon a relatively weaker and unstable West, for the crimes they have done.

Lol do you really think Putler, Xitler and Moditler care about crimes? What are they going to do throw their sandals?

 

 

jk

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6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think you're exaggerating. All countries that have had power have been extremely evil. We'll see what happens when the Chinese take the lead. For now, they say they're absolutely pacifist, but in the Sudan war, much more terrible than the one in Gaza, they sell weapons to both sides, greatly increasing the suffering of civilians for economic gain. Does this sound familiar?

1.3% percent of Sudans population has been killed i. 2.5-5% of Gazas population has been killed. 

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54 minutes ago, Raze said:

1.3% percent of Sudans population has been killed i. 2.5-5% of Gazas population has been killed. 

Ok, but selling weapons to both sides, encouraging violence to make money, is very similar to the policies we criticize in the US. China didn't provoke the war, but its weapons make it much more deadly. You start like that, and then, who knows, business is business.

What I mean is, we already know the US is ruthless and greedy, but whoever replaces it will see how honest and pacifist they are.

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Israeli senior journalist Keren Marziano in the most popular channel (N12) in Israel:

"And it's hard for us to see such images too.
Because hungry children, those are images that are hard to see."

Guest in the studio:
"Let them release the hostages, and in the meantime, we'll manage with these images until they do."

Keren:
"That's your opinion."

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On 24/7/2025 at 2:37 AM, Twentyfirst said:

Attacking the west = defending human rights

You just believe that you have more rights in the west than elsewhere which clouds your vision. You are just as much a victim as those in Gaza

Sure, today in the news in my country, it was reported that two Pakistani sisters refused to marry the men their father had ordered. Since they were in Europe, they couldn't do anything to them. Instead, they tricked them by saying their grandmother was sick. They went to Pakistan, where their brothers were waiting to strangle them to death.

The Pakistani court acquitted them because their parents forgave them. It seems that women there are like cattle, someone's property, so if that person forgives the murderers, there's no crime. Now they're on trial here, not for murder, but for forced marriage.

 

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13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, today in the news in my country, it was reported that two Pakistani sisters refused to marry the men their father had ordered. Since they were in Europe, they couldn't do anything to them. Instead, they tricked them by saying their grandmother was sick. They went to Pakistan, where their brothers were waiting to strangle them to death.

The Pakistani court acquitted them because their parents forgave them. It seems that women there are like cattle, someone's property, so if that person forgives the murderers, there's no crime. Now they're on trial here, not for murder, but for forced marriage.

 

The news in your European country have never lied. Correct?

Keep blaming what is outside of your own degeneracy and filth. That will solve Western problems 

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1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

The news in your European country have never lied. Correct?

Keep blaming what is outside of your own degeneracy and filth. That will solve Western problems 

Those crimes are very common, but anyway, think what fits better for your narrative 

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57 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Those crimes are very common, but anyway, think what fits better for your narrative 

And that’s their problem, pay attention to what you are involved with, you have been holding water for Israel’s massacre of 19,000 children and your government is arming them, sit with that before you judge others.

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