Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Breakingthewall]

50 minutes ago, Raze said:

And that’s their problem, pay attention to what you are involved with, you have been holding water for Israel’s massacre of 19,000 children and your government is arming them, sit with that before you judge others.

Ok, then as the massacre in Gaza is evil, it's ok widespread forced marriages and "honor" killings, and in short the absolute oppression of women. Strange logic, but if for you it works, good.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Ok, then as the massacre in Gaza is evil, it's ok widespread forced marriages and "honor" killings, and in short the absolute oppression of women. Strange logic, but if for you it works, good.

Interesting, you made up something I didn’t say to avoid responding to the point I made. You have done this before. I conclude you know I’m right but are both too prideful to admit it, but also lack the self awareness to know weird red herrings just make you look unintelligent. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

Interesting, you made up something I didn’t say to avoid responding to the point I made. You have done this before. I conclude you know I’m right but are both too prideful to admit it, but also lack the self awareness to know weird red herrings just make you look unintelligent. 

I don't know what you're talking about. I was talking about honor killings. It has no relationship with gaza, then I don't know why you said that. Regarding Gaza, I had some doubts before and thought the Israelis had the right to defend themselves, but now it seems obvious that they're criminal genocidaires and that Europe should take a firm stand against them. They're a shame to Western civilization, and I think that most of European governments are going to move in that direction. It wasn't clear at first, but it's becoming clearer.

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On 7/25/2025 at 3:25 PM, Breakingthewall said:

I think you're exaggerating. All countries that have had power have been extremely evil. We'll see what happens when the Chinese take the lead. For now, they say they're absolutely pacifist, but in the Sudan war, much more terrible than the one in Gaza, they sell weapons to both sides, greatly increasing the suffering of civilians for economic gain. Does this sound familiar?

I was exaggerating to vent how angered the world is at the situation. The reason Gaza hits harder than Sudan is first because the West has a stake in it which means a leverage to stop it or continue it, and second because whilst its bad to sell weapons to war zones for capital gain, its evil to diplomatically and morally shield and justify such death and destruction. It's not simply arming the conflict but systematically enabling and holding up the conditions of that conflict - at every level. There's a distinction between good, bad and evil.

Sudan's suffering is seen as a tragedy of war and collapse, Gaza's is seen as horrific and engineered whilst being ideologically excused and justified as a war for ''Western civilization and liberal democracy''. Sudan's hunger is a emergent byproduct, Gaza's hunger is a engineered condition - to pressure Palestinians into ''voluntarily'' cleansing themselves.

 

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@zazen

I'm not comparing the US to China when it comes to profiting from war, since the US not only sells weapons but also provokes wars, and China hasn't provoked any yet. However, its position in Sudan is murki. Getting rich off a war by selling weapons to both sides shows you don't have too many scruples. So what else can you do for money? We'll see.

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