Am I an artist

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Chadders said:

@Leo Gura was that from a conscious realisation that you became aware of that? 

Nothing has really changed for me in this regard other than that I am able to appreciate and see art more clearly.

[Chadders]

@Leo Gura okay perhaps that’s kinda the same for me in through my own awareness raising I see it artistry more clearly now. You are more conscious than me Leo so will have more insight! 

[Leo Gura]

44 minutes ago, Chadders said:

You are more conscious than me Leo

You don't know that.

[Archie]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have always been.

then why did you pursue creating actualized.org versus doing art professionally (after you worked on video games professionally)? 

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Archie said:

then why did you pursue creating actualized.org versus doing art professionally (after you worked on video games professionally)? 

Because I wanted to understand the nature of reality.

[thierry]

On 14/03/2024 at 1:14 AM, Leo Gura said:

No, it's about the pursuit of aesthetic beauty.

Is a dedicated body builder an artist ? 
is an athlete an artist ? 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, thierry said:

Is a dedicated body builder an artist ?

Theortically could be. But most likely a vain egomaniac with nothing better to do and using "art" as a rationalization.

Thing is, a serious artist would find bodybuilding far too limited of a medium. I find my Youtube videos are far too limited of a medium for my art.

I wouldn't call Arnold Schwarzeneggar an artist. He's doing something else.

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is an athlete an artist ? 

Generally no.

Edited March 19, 2024 by Leo Gura

[mmKay]

I've heard from an male fitness influencer something like 90% of his following and attention is other dudes

Imo everything has a degree of art, which can be more or less.

Arnold literally looked like a Greek sculpture. We all agree sculptures are art. You marvel at its aesthetics 

Now imagine if the Greeks managed to create bring the actual sculpture of Hercules to life as a real human. That was Arnold. It clearly is art 

I remember a few years ago when I was in the best shape of my life I would flex at marvel at how my muscles felt and looked in the mirror every day, and how clothes ( lol)

Rap music and boxing are art. It's just lower consciousness and more brutal

Videogames are art, that is clear. Programmers are artists. Singers are vocal athletes. Dancers are athletes.

Athletes nowadays are artists imo. It's just a lesser degree and less pure art.

You're playing games with artificial rules and you're performing in artificial competition. 

It's just it's mixed with ego, fame, and Survival . It's the art that our society most understands because it games and competition are simple and hardwired into our psyche.

More pure art = less ego, less tied up with survival, more done for its own sake

 

Different people are capable of appreciating art at different degrees

 

Edited March 19, 2024 by mmKay

[Poop]

@Leo Gura Can you mention some examples of artistic projects you made throughout your life?

[Danioover9000]

   This elephant is an amazing artist:

 

[Chadders]

@Danioover9000 here’s us contemplating whether we are artists yet this elephant is the greatest artist among us lol

[Chadders]

@Leo Gura you have had insights I have not yet become fully conscious of such as god realisation but then I have not done dmt yet so maybe. Would you consider the book you're working on as the greatest expression of your art? 

[Jannes]

On 18.3.2024 at 9:21 PM, thierry said:

Is a dedicated body builder an artist ? 
is an athlete an artist ?