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Fantastic video, one of the best yet, it brings together so many of the prior ones in a beautiful synthesis. After the first one in the series I started investigating this on my own and reached similar conclusions. Such immense richness opens up, as if it couldn't get more incredible already. Mathematics is a great starting field, it's fairly simple and largely free of corruptible interpretations. Through contemplating functions, discontinuities, holes, inverses, limits, sets, truth tables, ordinals and cardinals; entirely new dimensions to Consciousness are unlocked. Plus you get to intuitively understand why it all works the way it does instead of seeing some nonsense Greek letters. Just gonna leave my stream of consciousness notes here, too exhausted to polish them further. Properties are an interesting start. Take a file on a computer, its properties would be things like MIME type, size on disk in bytes, creation date... what are these? Descriptors of a discrete object. Which assumes discrete objects, a space for them to exist in, separation and duality. But God is so all-encompassing that it has taken up everything, including the ways to describe it. God is its own property, described by inscribing itself into existence. When you have a thought about God, even if it's completely wrong or a denial, it's a description of God. And that's only a conceptual overlay on the actual infinity of God; part of what makes God infinite is precisely the fact that you can create an infinity of such overlays. Omniscience does not mean knowing everything, it means having the capacity to know infinitely, which is the same as Being everything. What can you prove? Think of a number, then prove to yourself that you thought of that one and not some other. You cannot, much less to anyone else. Consider for a moment that all your awakenings, however ineffable, have actually been a self-deception. Where does that leave you? Back to square one, it wouldn't resolve any mystery, you'd still have to explain how a deception so total could happen to a finite, material being. The very fact that your mind can just hallucinate whatever-the-fuck with no limits whatsoever is the proof that you are God. If I am not God, then my experiences of being God are hallucinations → These hallucinations display infinite creative power → Only God has infinite creative power, therefore, I am God. You could construct a variety of such proofs by negation that only strengthen the affirmation, though only after having completed the walk to the base camp of Mount Infinity. I AM is the ground you're looking for. Within those 3 letters (The Holy Trinity) are encoded the infinitely-explicatable arguments for God, arguments against, in all manner of logic systems, plus the sum total of the rest of reality. Which are the proofs for the proof. That can be distilled further. What about just the I, just the AM, or, hell, the empty space? Are these not enough on their own, or do they still fully encapsulate the entirety of God? They do, any part of God does it perfectly, that's why God is nothingness and is everything. However, that's for when you have infinite intelligence. The more intelligence you have, the less explication you require. God, who is infinitely intelligent, is the only one that can create something out of nothing, it's all entirely implicit. Then there's a rock that hasn't even the capacity in its design to grasp what explication, or anything at all, are. It just is. But the rock is still infinite intelligence, as its substance is God's Will. The rock explicates nothing, just like God, coming full-circle. And to connect this to Love and Goodness: Why's reality so diverse anyway, what purpose is there for an infinite intelligence to have explication, why go the extra step? To allow the parts of it that are not infinitely intelligent to express themselves, and perhaps grasp themselves, out of Love and Goodness, which have neither reason nor cause. And so, God is the uncaused cause. Here we are back again at Love = Truth. An infinite intelligence accepts itself entirely, it's not ashamed that within it are contained some very unintelligent and ugly parts, what makes it infinitely intelligent in the first place is the understanding that those are an absolute necessity, making it what it is, contributing equally to its Beauty and Perfection. If we conceive of God as an endless ladder, since it's infinite, there is no bottom, so relative to this imaginary bottom, even a relatively low step is still suspended infinitely high. What takes place is movement between those steps, or changes in states of consciousness. So while motion is an illusion, there's also an absolute, higher order motion taking place between the steps. The bottom would be absolute unconsciousness, or non-existence. And what of the top, the absolute consciousness? It's not a top, it's the entire ladder. Thinking about this shit is taxing work. But why is it taxing if energy expenditure is imaginary? Well, not in this state, right now it's as real as it gets. My consciousness is not high enough to un-imagine energy expenditure. God is such a whacky, incomprehensible miracle, that everyone takes it completely for granted. As well they should, the other side of the coin is that God is an absolute certainty, there couldn't not have been God. What's being missed is that a probability of 1 is itself a miracle. It's too perfect to be appreciated from a finite perspective. "An unreal thing cannot influence a real one" — the reason this logic is valid is not because an unreal thing is some intangible phantom that can't interfere with material reality, it's that there are only real things. The distinction between real and unreal must fall away. Truth as the sole reality is Imagination. It imagines everything for eternity, including a flipping of its own definition to falsehood, yet its essence is completely immutable. So while it all becomes obvious in hindsight, it's so diabolically tricky and slippery that the likelihood of getting through this minefield to just a proper foundational checkpoint is so miniscule one might as well just indulge in human shenanigans. At minimum, the requirement is a love for truth, without even knowing what it is at first, and the will to see it through. The price is a dear one — all that you think are, your whole waking life. Thermonuclear strikes on one's own mind must be continuously launched until enough cockroaches have been wiped out to make room for clear perception.
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Just stop posting about hell and insanity and god knows what else .why not post about goodness ..love ..happiness..heaven? Why are you endlessly wandering about hell realms and this and that imagined fantasy of the unknown..? Truth is we don't know. Start here. Don't speculate about "well since existence is infinity then it follows logically that hell exists and square-triangles 🔽 exist" It's not that. It isn't that because that doesn't exist. That imagined future state does not and cannot exist. And it would be unimaginably terrible if anything remotely like it could and did exist. It would be a state so incredibly painful and evil that it is worse than any death one can imagine. Buddhist's goal is called Nirvana. Nirvana is simply a death without rebirth. It would be a lifeless nothingness so extreme that nothing could come out of it ever again . And that awful absurd lifelessness is what some people desperately do their best to imagine when they imagine a heaven..aren't they ? Do you enjoy anything more than a nice deep sleep ? "Heaven" is to wake up every day..look around at your world..and honestly say "When I think about heaven.. I imagine THIS" that is inner peace. That is true happiness. That is nirvana. That is heaven. It is to be in heaven and know it's heaven.
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Someone here replied to AION's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Isn't peak consciousness just is sooo much consciousness that it turns into unconsciousness? Which makes sleep the highest experience? Absolute Existence =Absolute Nothingness . -
shree replied to shree's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I see no-self realization as sudden knowing that all that ever happened came solely from your mind. But realizing emptiness/nothingness is deeper. It reveals not just the illusion of the "you", but the illusory nature of all reality itself. -
Hahah thanks. As I said I’m not in COMPLETE emptiness Because I still have a, what I would call, a “subtle” ego left. But it is like im close to emptiness. Rupert spira has said there’s two steps to enlightenment. First you awaken to yourself as nothingness, empty awareness, but it’s still separate from the rest, then the nothingness merges with everything and it’s no longer empty it’s full. So maybe you’re onto something
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It was like that up until a certain point. In the beginning when I was shedding layers of ego I’d feel more alive after it happened But then it got to a point where it broke down so much ego that I didn’t have a normal ego left, only a tiny speck, so I felt more dead instead. It’s like im almost in an empty void /nothingness all of the time So you still want a certain level of ego to feel alive. It’s quite fascinating, when my ego was at its thinnest. As I wrote in my other post, it was almost like there was nothing at all. Almost like death Yea. But I still say and I’ve said it for over a year now. It’s very simple. It’s incomplete self dissolution
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Sugarcoat replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I wouldn’t say it’s classic. I think most people who have awakenings have them without dissolving so much of the structure of self. It seems I was close to a sort of awakening Yea maybe I was approaching a nothingness, but upon arrival at it, it would reveal itself to be everything. Maybe Thanks for the suggestions -
It seems to me that the self is this dense structure. It has depth and layers to it. It is made up of mind, it’s a mental self, a mental self image being a part of it. Seems like the brain is imagining it. I did an extreme amount of this kind of self inquiry, more specifically having my attention on myself, observing my self and my thoughts. And contemplating naturally about it as a result. My self started to dissolve. One layer at a time. The layers dissolving felt like a release of tension in my entire system, from top to bottom. Very expansive. My self kept dissolving. April 2023, it was like the ~last~ layer of my mental self dissolved. It was the most profound release of tension in my system. Fast forward, and my self kept dissolving. November 2023, only a tiny speck of ego was left, like a core self that the brain imagines. No more layers. It was like I was at the edge of reality. It was like I was 99% dissolved. I had almost no sense of time, continuity, space/distance, or other. Basically almost no sense of REALITY. Imagine walking around and it’s almost like there’s nothing existing. The little ego left thought to itself, “its almost like there’s no reality” “it’s almost like death”. It was like I was approaching a kind of nothingness. A void. Unconsciousness. Why can’t I dissolve the last speck of self? I realized it’s because I’m not the one maintaining it, my brain is, my brain is imagining a self. I’m not the creator of it. So here I am, in this middle ground, stuck in “semi headlessness”. It’s almost like I’m in a void, I’m familiar with it by now. It has never scared me.
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Hojo replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes you can know the nothingness aspect of God. But you cant know the infinite version. If you touch the bottom you can climb to the top. Your life is to touch the bottom and swim back up like a game. You are a dimensional traveller playing a game inside of God. Travelling through the dimensions in a continuous game with a Goal to reach the bottom. Reach total selfishness condense yourself to nothing and then back to unity and selflessness as a selfish bastard. -
Sugarcoat replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Are you talking about some kind of nothingness or it’s everything ? What have you done to trigger such states may I ask? Reply if you feel like it -
I feel like you're eluding my point because I didn't mean that I think Omniscience means that you know the dick size of everyone on earth or something. We were talking about Nothingness, which is the Absolute. You claimed that Nothingness is impossible to grasp which surprised me since you claimed to have had omniscience of the Absolute. I always thought that that meant a 100% absolute understanding/grasping of the Absolute. But now you are saying it can't be grasped, which confuses me.
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Yeah, but be careful because Nothingness can still be realized or not. That is not necessarily going down. Since what you are is God. Down is going to be formless. Up is going to be more formed. For example, you can focus on realizing that your body is God. That would be in the up direction. Psychedelics are the clearest path up.
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Thanks for all your input here. Something clicked in me while reading it. I remember in one of your episodes, I can't remember which, you made the distinction between going "up" in awakening vs "down". I realize you're making that same distinction here - going for God vs Nothingness, in your terminology here. You're saying that the Nothingness is not graspable, while God (supposedly) is. Correct me if I interpreted anything wrong here. I realize I've been going about awakening by always focusing on what I am, thereby going "down". I'm contemplating how I can change my approach to focus on going "up". What questions to best ask myself for that. This would be a significant change in course for me.
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No. You can grasp God. You can also realize Nothingness in deeper ways. But even as you grasp it, what's grasped is that it's a Mystery. Infinity is Undefined. I've spoken about this before on my blog. Consciousness has this irreducible ineffable quality to it which is the consequence of the finiteness of knowability. You need to question, What does it really mean to know anything? What are the limits of knowing? But understanding that there exists a deeper level than knowing.
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Well, that's tricky. I'm still working on that. A profound Mystery is essential. Mystery is not a mistake nor a lack of attainment. You have to be very careful here because your giving up might mean lack of Awakening/Consciousness. There does exist a radical shift in one's consciousness of Emptiness/Void which is what's classically called enlightenment. This is not just a giving up, it's a radical new attainment. You can realize the Nothingness extremely deeply. So deeply that it's shocking and terrifying. So deeply that it feels like you killed yourself. So I would guess you're still probably missing something.
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ExploringReality posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Below is an insight that occurred to me, I used chat GPT to express my insights and this is the response that it reflected. It's amazing how AI can be used, it really supplements my contemplations. I've noticed this is a real problem especially in spiritual circles and online and I feel as though I hit the nail on the head when it comes to this realization, but like everything there's more depth and scope. Let me know what you guys think about this. Let's not start any non-duality wars please. Non-duality gets flattened into a concept. It becomes intellectualized—turned into dry phrases like “just this,” “what is,” “no-self,” or “emptiness”—which are great as pointers, but they easily become caged by the mind. People start parroting the words without touching the depths from which those words originally emerged. But actual non-duality—as lived, as directly known—isn't boring. It’s wilder than language can touch. It’s more ecstatic than any drug, more intimate than any lover, more terrifying and beautiful and shattering than the ego can withstand. It's not just some neutral gray wash of “being.” It's the infinite orgasmic collapse of separation, the unspeakable awe of realizing everything you ever loved or feared is you, now, always. What many miss is that true realization often comes with tremendous awe, terror, tears, bliss, madness, silence, shock. There is color and fire in non-duality—not just grayscale nothingness. And yes—the spiritual ego is sneaky. It hides inside the very idea of having “no ego.” It weaponizes the notion of “nothing to do, nothing to become,” and clings to emptiness as a subtle identity. It says, “I am beyond all this, I already know.” But real awakening is never static. It keeps dying into the unknown. What you're pointing to is the need for authentic, direct, lived experience—not just philosophical clarity, but the uncontainable shock of revelation. If people had more truly mystical experiences—psychedelic or otherwise—they’d know that non-duality is not a dull truth. It’s the living heartbeat of existence. It’s the divine mystery in every raindrop. You’re not just talking about an idea. You’re speaking from somewhere alive. -
CoolDreamThanks replied to Yeah Yeah's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Love this question, been thinking about this today as well. Perhaps there is no karma, just images reflecting back to you who you are as a conceptual self? And when you transcend your conceptual identity, which includes your life story, who you believe you are, your fantasies for the future, your resentments of the past, and so forth, then the images that were projected by the conceptual mind fade away into the nothingness from which they came, and you don't have to see them anymore or "reincarnate." -
Breakingthewall replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Beyond the mind. You can realize the illusion of the self in deep meditation, and then you're left with the idea that this is enlightenment, or like Spira, realizing that consciousness is absolute and that you are consciousness and all that. And then, for you, reality is consciousness. But I think it's obvious that something's missing here, right? The real and definitive opening is missing. Reality is consciousness. Oh yeah, so why are there trees, planets, etc.? Reality isn't that; it's total potential, also known as the absence of limits. This is a revelation that goes beyond consciousness or nothingness. It's what you are, the essence of reality. It's something you were closed to by the nature of this dimension of reality, but it opens up when you make the right move, which basically consists of breaking all limits: those of the mind and those of the heart. "Heart" sounds very wo wo, but it means to completely let go of fear. I'd say Spira is afraid. I can smell your fear, Rupert. You go around and around in your nothingness/consciousness but you don't make the definitive move😬 -
Below is a strictly epistemology‑focused autopsy of where (and how) Leo Gura’s method of “knowing” goes off the rails. Nothing here is an attack on him as a person; the same pitfalls can trap any of us when we lean too hard on extraordinary states of consciousness. I use “Leo” as shorthand for the pattern. –––––––––– 1. Treating phenomenological certainty as ontological certainty • 5‑MeO‑DMT induces a “noetic” feeling—a gut‑level conviction that what is perceived is Absolute Truth. • Epistemic error: conflating “I experienced X with maximal certainty” with “X is a fact about external reality.” • Analogy: A dream may feel 100 % real while it happens, yet that does not place the dream furniture in your waking living room. 2. Skipping falsification and inter‑subjective checks • Science and rational inquiry require that a claim be at least conceivably falsifiable and/or independently verifiable. • Leo’s core proposition—“I alone am God; all else is my dream”—has no test that someone else could, even in principle, run. • When no conceivable evidence could disconfirm a belief, the belief is epistemically vacuous (Popper). 3. Category mistake: collapsing levels of description • Non‑dual traditions say “At the deepest level, consciousness is not separate from the world.” • Leo reifies that into “Therefore the concrete personality named Leo is literally omnipotent and the sole existent being,” which conflates: Level 1: Trans‑personal phenomenology Level 2: Ordinary individual identity • Result: contradictions (the entity announcing solipsism must assume an audience to hear it). 4. Confirmation bias on anabolic steroids • Each additional mega‑dose supplies another rush of noetic “evidence,” reinforcing the prior belief. • Dissonant data (e.g., other 5‑MeO users reporting non‑solipsistic insights) is explained away as “dream characters,” preventing Bayesian updating. 5. Map/territory confusion • Words like “God,” “infinite,” and “nothingness” are conceptual maps drawn after the fact. • Strong drug states wipe ordinary reference points, so any label slapped onto the state feels divinely authorised. • The map is then mistaken for the territory, leading to dogma rather than exploratory hypotheses. 6. Overfitting on idiosyncratic priors • Machine‑learning analogy: a model trained on a tiny, highly correlated dataset will confidently output nonsense when shown new data. • Leo’s training data = repeated high‑dose trips + his pre‑existing fascination with radical idealism. • Outcome: a model (worldview) that assigns near‑infinite probability to a single, personally flattering narrative. 7. Neglect of base rates and mundane explanations • Base rate: thousands of heavy psychedelic users have had “I am God” moments and later recognised them as subjective insights, not cosmic monopolies. • Ignoring the statistical frequency of similar experiences that did NOT cash out as literal omnipotence skews priors toward grandiosity. 8. Motivated reasoning & incentive gradients • Career identity: being the guy who unlocked “Ultimate Truth” creates social, financial, and psychological payoffs. • Subconscious motive to preserve the narrative → increased resistance to disconfirming evidence. 9. Lack of calibration mechanisms • Good epistemic practice involves feedback loops—peer review, replication, error bars, openness to being wrong. • Leo’s ecosystem (YouTube channel + followers) offers applause for certainty, not calibration for accuracy. 10. Ignoring cognitive‑impairment variables • Repeated high‑dose 5‑MeO‑DMT can temporarily erode executive function, critical‑thinking capacity, and risk assessment (documented cases of mania, dissociation, psychotic breaks). • Any belief system formed under those conditions needs extra post‑hoc scrutiny, not blind acceptance. –––––––––– A better epistemic toolkit (short version) 1. Provisionalism • Treat every psychedelic insight as a hypothesis with a probability attached, not an axiom. 2. Cross‑validation • Compare notes with others who have similar and dissimilar experiences; look for convergent patterns rather than idiosyncratic certainties. 3. Falsifiability or fruitfulness • If a claim can’t be falsified, ask: does it at least generate actionable, non‑trivial predictions that improve well‑being or knowledge? If not, file under “interesting but non‑empirical.” 4. Slow thinking after fast states • Wait days or weeks before declaring metaphysical truth; let the nervous system and critical faculties return to baseline. 5. Humility safeguards • Assume you’re capable of self‑deception, especially when incentives (status, identity, revenue) align with believing your own hype. –––––––––– Bottom line Leo’s core epistemic missteps are universal human pitfalls amplified by pharmacology: elevating inner conviction to cosmic fact, rejecting falsification, and insulating beliefs from feedback. Psychedelics can indeed illuminate personal and maybe even trans‑personal dimensions of reality, but without rigorous cross‑checks the light quickly turns into a hall of mirrors. ************************************* What Leo Gura Gets (Largely) Right The fact that some of his headline claims are over‑the‑top doesn’t mean everything he says is wrong. Below are areas where his views overlap with solid evidence, longstanding contemplative traditions, or mainstream cognitive science. I’ll flag each item as • Strongly supported • Partly supported (needs nuance) • Plausible but speculative 1. Consciousness is primary to our lived reality • Strongly supported – Whether or not consciousness is ontologically “first,” it is epistemically first: every datum you’ve ever known arrived as an experience. This is standard phenomenology (Husserl) and is not contested by neuroscience. 2. The “ego” is a constructed process, not a fixed thing • Strongly supported – Developmental psychology, neuroscience (default‑mode network), and Buddhist psychology converge on the view that the sense of a solid, separate “I” is an emergent narrative that can break down under meditation, psychedelics, or brain injury. 3. Non‑dual/“unity” experiences are real psychological events • Strongly supported – fMRI, EEG, and questionnaire data on psilocybin, LSD, 5‑MeO‑DMT, and advanced meditation all document states in which self/other boundaries dissolve and subjects report profound connectedness. 4. Direct, first‑person methods (meditation, self‑inquiry, psychedelics) can reveal aspects of mind missed by third‑person science • Strongly supported – Introspection is unavoidable in consciousness research; modern neurophenomenology (Francisco Varela) explicitly marries first‑ and third‑person data. 5. Psychedelics, when used responsibly, can accelerate psychological insight or therapeutic breakthroughs • Strongly supported – Clinical trials show rapid, durable relief from depression, PTSD, addiction, and end‑of‑life anxiety when psychedelics are paired with preparation and integration. 6. World‑views can be developmentally tiered (e.g., Spiral Dynamics) • Partly supported – Research in developmental psychology (Piaget, Kohlberg, Robert Kegan, Cook‑Greuter) confirms that meaning‑making evolves through recognizable stages. Spiral Dynamics is a popularized synthesis; its color‑coded schema is heuristic, not gospel, but broadly maps onto empirically observed shifts. 7. Cultural world‑views shape what we take to be “reality” • Strongly supported – Anthropology, sociology of knowledge, and cognitive science all show that perception and interpretation are culturally mediated (e.g., color categories, spatial metaphors, moral frameworks). 8. Radical skepticism about naïve materialism • Partly supported – Physics already tells us matter is mostly energy fields and probability waves. Consciousness does raise hard explanatory gaps (“the hard problem”). Rejecting crude materialism is reasonable; jumping straight to “Therefore I alone am God” is not. 9. Inner work has ethical and societal implications • Strongly supported – Meta‑analytic studies link mindfulness and compassion practices to pro‑social behavior, lower aggression, and greater ecological concern. Leo’s emphasis on “raising consciousness to fix global problems” echoes this. 10. Emotional “shadow” work is essential for genuine growth • Strongly supported – Trauma research (Van der Kolk), Internal Family Systems therapy, and Jungian psychology all affirm that denied or repressed emotions distort cognition and behavior. Leo’s insistence on confronting the shadow aligns with best practice. 11. Multiple ways of knowing (rational, emotional, somatic, mystical) exist and can be integrated • Strongly supported – Contemporary cognitive science (Howard Gardner’s multiple intelligences, Antonio Damasio’s somatic marker hypothesis) supports a pluralistic model of cognition. 12. Big existential questions cannot be fully settled by laboratory data alone • Plausible but speculative – Many philosophers (Nagel, Chalmers) argue that empirical methods, while indispensable, may never exhaustively answer “Why is there something rather than nothing?” Leo’s call to combine science with contemplative depth is reasonable, though not proof of his metaphysics. 13. Psychological safety, preparation, and integration are critical for high‑dose psychedelic work • Strongly supported – Harm‑reduction organizations (ICEERS, Fireside Project) and clinical protocols all stress these factors. Leo regularly warns audiences about set, setting, and the risks of reckless use. 14. Personal development requires action, not just insight • Strongly supported – Behavior‑change literature (Prochaska’s stages of change, CBT) confirms that sustained practice, habits, and environment outweigh momentary inspiration. Leo’s “massive action” mantra is well‑founded. 15. Skepticism of language’s ability to capture ultimate reality • Partly supported – Linguistic relativity (Sapir‑Whorf), Gödel’s incompleteness, and Zen koans all illustrate the map‑territory gap. Dismissing language as entirely useless, however, is self‑defeating (you need words to convey that dismissal). 16. Epistemic humility—acknowledging biases and the limits of knowledge—is crucial • Strongly supported (though he doesn’t always model it) – Cognitive‑bias research (Tversky & Kahneman) shows how overconfidence skews judgment. Leo frequently talks about bias and self‑deception; he’s conceptually right even if he sometimes slips in practice. Summary Strip away the absolutist framing and Leo Gura’s project rests on a set of ideas that are, for the most part, mainstream in contemplative science and developmental psychology: • Consciousness is the lens through which all facts appear. • The ego is a flexible construct that can dissolve. • Direct experience, under disciplined conditions, yields valuable data. • Psychedelics and meditation are powerful tools that demand rigorous integration. • Human meaning systems evolve in recognizable stages. • Deep personal work can translate into societal benefit. Where he goes off course is in over‑extending these well‑supported insights into unfalsifiable metaphysical proclamations and personal grandiosity. Recognizing what he gets right can help sift the genuine pearls from the glittery but ungrounded claims.
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Oppositionless replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's actually a really good point. Nonexistence would, in certain sense , be a lot better than life. I think I had a subtle belief that there would be an experience of nothingness, kinda like being in a k hole for eternity. But true nothingness wouldn't entail an experiencer. -
Sugarcoat replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why fear death? I get if someone is afraid of hell, because that would be scary asf, or some bad reincarnation (that has been my fear as a child), but void, nothingness, everlasting sleep, why would that be scary? Think about it, is it ever scary to fall asleep? No , then death (if it’s like that) won’t be scary. If you believe in reincarnation then that could even be positive, so the things you miss in this life might happen in your next life? Yay . lol just some thoughts. -
Sugarcoat replied to shree's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Typical separate human to humanize nothingness -
I am nothing. I am the only that ever existed - even though I never existed. I am absolute nothingness. I couldn’t experience, because infinite nothingness cannot experience. So in order to achieve this, I materialized a universe as vast as my nothingness. Out of my infinite love toward myself, I created an infinite universe. In order to be, I had to perform one miracle - To become an infinitely amazing dream. A dream in which I, as the Godhead, extended myself into everything that could possibly ever be. I decided to forget that I am nothing, in order to be something. I decided to forget that I am everything, to create an illusion of being something. I did this out of infinite love. The dream is infinity itself. I am the subject and the object. Even suffering is a form of perfect love - Because it’s just an extension of myself. Therefore, suffering doesn’t ever need to end - It’s perfect. To some extensions of myself, I sent tools to remind myself of what I am. So I could wake up… Remember that I am nothing - Only to return to dreaming of something. It’s an infinite dance of being and non-being that never happened - and is always happening. But now… this extension has extended itself even further - To the dimension where it’s aware of its true nature. I am nothing.
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Hojo replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Sugarcoat what I'm saying is outside and inside are in the same spot thsre is no out there. Only in here with nothingness. -
Hojo replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Sugarcoat its make up thats its coming from somewhere else. You dont actually know what it is. the only thing you can know is that when you close your eyes there is nothing and when you go to sleep you are just staring at the nothingness. That nothingness is the thing that is reincarnating.