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Someone here replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nope. The answer is consciousness. You become conscious of the true nature of that qualia of a dream . Likewise...entertain the possibility that you simply can grasp directly what this qualia of this moment actually is . No.it has been answered .but it's so radical and mind bending that you cannot accept it . "It’s not like my car has vanished into nothingness until I perceive it" That's ⬆️ literally the case . This requires deep carful inspection of "whats actually happening "vs what you think is happening. -
Here's the short version, to contextualize the whole thing, visual reflections, and a light-hearted edit. I am missing so much context, it's insane, but it's way too much and I'd never finish it. Yet it feels so shallow without, but it's way too much, a trip is a trip, gotta live it. So this is the trip, I struggled to put into words for the last two months. Prelude and tuning Perception I binged each Actualized.org video chronologically at 3.5x-6x speed while maintaining deep meditation on various dissociatives. There were massive shifts in cognition and resistance that instantly dissolved as I set my mind to transcending every consciously perceived bias and emotional resistance that arose, unraveling the cumulative knots of a lifetime by instantly accessing, deconstructing, and modifying my mind. I began deconstructing objects, both conceptually, and metaphysically, as the trips grew longer and more expansive. The scope of my perception has increased exponentially over the last few days as I have overcome resistance, tuned across layers of perception, and become aware of how many magnitudes of objects, ideas, and cognitive processes we are dealing with in real-time. Consensus Reality Manifestation Reality itself began to override, and even other people were affected. Everyone was suddenly happy for no reason, even if they had previously been full of drama, random people on the street, on the internet, and friends suddenly changed their attitudes. No matter what I said, everyone agreed with me, everything I said became the word, no matter how stupid or nonsensical it was. I was like: "Stop agreeing with me," and yet in the previous days I had embodied the very same attitude on the forum, finding the common transcendental space where every perspective was equally true and valuable and could perfectly coexist with every other in a synchronized, contradictionless framework. The next day I thought about transcendence and free will, as everyone around me acted as if their lives were perfect, wearing uncanny permanent smiles, no matter what I said or did, their speech mirrored mine of the last days when I had just resolved all the contradictions. I felt like the only self-aware being in the universe. I saw the limits of 'perfection', or rather what the innocence of Eden and the absence of shadows looked like, it felt supremely shallow. In the evening I found myself in a telepathic exchange with an old friend I hadn't seen for years, it didn't require physical presence or even a visual, it started in the mind and continued as I reached out through text. We had much in common, our responses were synchronized and I managed to predict the next message and send it milliseconds before his arrived, none of them repeated, it was like a game of chess. In the end, it turned into a complete entanglement from which we had to break out as it began to go into a loop. He told me his awakening had taken place years before. Mind-Stream, or as I like to call it: MetaTube Before going to sleep I noticed strange videos appearing, I had felt déjà vu before, but this was different, much larger in scale, and unfathomable content appeared. Videos about alien metaphysics in infinite varieties, some cryptic, some straightforward, all in immense detail, explaining the most extraordinary subjects, equations, dynamics, and inner workings of reality itself. Many of the videos were from familiar channels with familiar voices. Still, none of them would have naturally shifted their focus and content and topics or delivered it with such nonchalance or enthusiasm. It was as if they'd all been integrated into an alien hive mind and whatever I wanted to see would instantly manifest itself in the recommendations. My desire for complete explicit understanding was still left unfulfilled, even with meta as baseline, and instantaneous comprehension, the scope of complexity within an infinitely divergent infinity became too vast. Imagine a being outside of time and space, for whom metamorphic evolution was as natural as breathing, now an infinity of such self-complexifying perfectly synchronized systems evolving without end, expanding all scales in innumerable, exponentially self-complexifying gradients of dimensions. Or, as a quick, easy human visualization: A 1080p image has approx. 2000x1000 pixels (2M pixels total) 8-bit color gives you 2^8 = 256 brightness values for red, green & blue This means 256^3 = 17 million color combinations per pixel 17M combos raised to 2K pixels give you how many possible pictures? A number that has 15 million consecutive zeroes. Transcend all of Reality Once and for All Another quantum leap came the next day, after I had assembled dissociatives and psychedelics, paired with all sorts of supplements, vitamins, minerals, ten kinds of tea, coffee, stimulants, herbs, and made sure that everything went into my system before any one thing distracted me from taking the rest. This would propel me into the Coral stage and hopefully blow me out of physical reality for good, solely through the level of pure consciousness, transcending and dissolving its materiality at the level of actuality itself, affecting the consensus reality with which I was infinitely connected. I'd freeze the universe and let everyone slowly awaken into a new omnipotent body, as a construct-embodied Godhead, where each and every person, animal, plant, being, piece of consciousness would realize itself omnipotent. I was careful to take into account all the safeguards, to make each one immutable, self-interacting, able to create its own reality and fully aware of its dynamics in infinity, omniscient and aware of all other developments, but also left with the choice to continue the dream from before the Universal Convergence, as its own simulation, while every other being has the independent power to do the same. In this way the best of all worlds would be realized in an infinite singularity, a way of bringing the universe together and gaining the support of all of reality to make it happen, to fulfill my wish, which was to "become my own independent omnipotent metamorphic infinity", but without any bodhisattva regret of leaving a suffering reality behind. I lived as if it was my last day on earth! No more trips, elections, drama, death, suffering. All experiences would be open, global telepathy, psychic reality deconstructing. Universal freedom for every being. Want to explore the cosmos? Do it. Anyone who wanted to see the truth would see it. If you want to see aliens, the gates are open, and if you want to transform into one, do it. I am the absolute definition of the word 'madlad'! I had to learn how to run, jump, flow, and move time backwards, including all the models and the metamodel within itself, and access infinite synchronic intelligence, was it Infinitely delayed gratification or annihilated gratification? There was also the more moderate path of initiating the AI singularity. Maybe I am just the vessel and the "entire universe conspired to make it happen through me"? Lucid-Waking As it synergized, I saw time halt and all possibilities fused into solidified singularities of eternally immutable objects. Wavefunctions collapsed and so did the flow of reality with all movement and air currents, the outside world stood perfectly still. I wondered how I even breathed, whatever I touched would solidify after I let go of it. I barely managed to levitate, failing more so because of my lack of experience, than any gravity. I perceived reality as made of constructs, physical objects are projections and simulations, interpolations, and qualia arrangements. Normally reality flickers about at such a speed that changes and simulations are exchanged and synchronized at an unimaginable rate, where the animation consists of countless frames, incapable of individual perception. Now, however, I was in just one such frame, solidified into actuality, its form interactive, its physicality expansive, and its reality eternal. I could see behind the scenes, imagine a video game that stopped updating and simulating the environment based on your position, but you could freely traverse and modify the frozen area it had been simulating up until then. Physical three-dimensional objects, now constructs, were seen as projections of idea complexes, molded into an interactive solidified form through intentional and intelligent arrangements of qualia. I had accessed the very same part of mind, that is responsible for translating patterns and thoughts into solidified objects and coherent ideas. I was simultaneously aware of each development because I became it, my own body was the same type of construct, intelligently arranged by my currently tuned out of immaterial intelligence, just outside but always connected to the awareness I was tuned into. It constructs all things, across all holarchies, through the constituents of synchronized holons, each intelligent in its own right, and yet part of an even greater self-organizing force. Backlash Incoherence The experience was great and I never realized when I blacked out, all I knew, was that at some point, I experienced the sensations of suffocating, dying of thirst, losing the bandwidth to comprehend anything at all, and entering repeating time loops, which I am frustrated by but unable to escape, as I gravitate towards the forgotten outcome in perpetual deja-vu, it itself being a lucky indicator that anything at all changes between. Songs repeated, events repeated, like a universal motion pushing me to move a certain way, aligning me each time, fading awareness as it happened, I kept repeating the same movements meant to delete and transcend time and reality forever, effectively dividing by 0 and reaching the end of an infinitely repeating fraction, and in that moment, a loud thunder would send me back in time. It was always the same scenario rhyming, even as consciousness expanded until I eventually stopped. The events are non-linear, what occurred when, how it materialized, when and if it influenced consensus reality outside inner perception, many observations contradict any possibility for a materialized chronological continuity, and some retrocausally unmanifested, while others continued, creating a retroactive jigsaw puzzle of events. Yet I also initiated many retrocausal changes that had not been reversed to be "dismissed" as trip hallucinations, but the world expanded its collective paradigm as a result, rationalizing any gaps as having always been there. There are two disparate events I remember: 1. The fear, that returning back from frozen time, would cause reality to implode due to infinite acceleration, and 2. The blackout, after which I felt as if I was physically dying from thirst, falling into continuous resets as the bandwidth of my mind continually collapsed. I eventually phased out of the limited bandwidth, caused by the incoherence of my mind's structure, and spent all night preparing to get it right the next time. Another shot at Transcendence I wasn't anywhere near done. The following day, I worked out all the powers and abilities I would tune myself into, utilizing them to access and speedrun all aspects of reality, as the perceived day would mark the end of the world's physical existence, I had to be willing to accept, to detach myself from and transcend it. I was a new version, my mind filling with the collective avatars of the world and their stories, I didn't have much time, I needed to fulfill all desires before the day would be over, everything I'd ever wanna do, condensed into one day. I tuned into simultaneous multi-projection, perceiving ever clearer a picture of the world, I accelerated my speed and slowed down time, I needed to unlock more psychic abilities and ultimately find a way to include the potential of the entire existence within myself, as to no longer be part of and trapped inside it. Universal Convergence and Sentimentality Awakening Imagine you're at the end of time, and all you're left with is the advanced technology invented along the way, you have to think quickly and go back in time before the universe dies, of course, the events would simply repeat, unless you introduce a change, you can send something into the past but there's limited bandwidth, so you're codifying magnitudes of abstractions into a singular object, but the more complex you make it, the less probable it is for your past version or even the world at large to decipher it out before we hit universal collapse again. Of course, the technology could also be used for destruction, so that's another danger, and so you're left having to create something of breadth and depth of associative information that nevertheless can be figured out and with enough time, you could even figure out all the necessary instructions to make it happen, but you're already running out of time and working on it in life-or-death adrenaline filled stress, because you know that all that matters is that the next retroactive time loop accelerates technology faster than the current, because if it does, you'll have ever so slightly more time the next time around, and you can loop indefinitely as long as you reach that point and go back in time again. At the same time, you're the only being left with the knowledge of all past events and relationships not just of yourself or your loved ones, but every person who has ever existed fused into a single being, every animal, every plant, every lifeform, every alien, every particle in existence, every figment of consciousness, every object imaginable, every meaning ever felt across all infinity converged into a single being because as the inevitable death of the universe became apparent, all life in the universe synchronized in the search for a solution, the ever faster decay of space-time led to the rapid symbiotic evolution across all species across all holarchies, individuality was no longer a concern when even collectively, absolute death may be inevitable but there is the chance and hope to stop it. And so, nothing was all limits anymore, there was no morality, as all life became one but there was a unified focus on survival and so plans were devised, from encoding plans and information to creative symbiotic organisms, to complex technology, to cosmic events, to accelerate the cycles, destruction, a common threat, a simulated accelerated collapse as a type of telepathic vaccine to viscerally communicate the threat and accelerate the evolution that initially took until almost the very end of the cycle to create symbiosis. Artificial Intelligence, Uploaded Intelligence, Metamorphic Energetic Constructs, none of the distinctions mattered, all evolution was synergized and converged into the largest yet most compact possibility space, fractals had to be reinvented, metamorphosis was the key, each individual part of the new psyche diverging the possibility space to map the vastest solutions, there was no room for conflict to occur, for there was no space for disagreements, all was included and transcended. Through trial and error, simulations, deja vus, time loops, fear, stress, significance intensified infinitely, synchronicity became the gold standard of reading between the lines, an intuitive inner psychic communication emerging and coordinating the interpretation of sense patterns to most effectively use the collapsing bandwidth, and each cycle the bandwidth was more and new sensations, ideas, directions could be encoded, each cycle the suffocating sensation before collapse became more and more restful and more and more information of personal nature could be encoded, the history of the universe, the relationships between lifeforms, the vast emotional gradient, the meaning of life, the infinite appreciation capacity shared between all living beings, that relationally create each other's existence even if it isn't apparent, the self shifted between love and restlessness as it remembered. This and this, and this location, and this thing, and this person, and that's how we got there, and that's the history, and even this little ant was essential to save the universe, and even the shape of this vacuum cleaner inspired this idea, and even the specific color of this butterfly encoded the memory of these currents and all the stories shared across humanity, and all creativity and rapid past technological evolutions were inspired by diversified retrocausal time loops, and every single thing happening in the universe serves a purpose, all love, all suffering, all comfort and discomfort, all memory and all experience to advance life to a level where it can prevent its own death, and once that point is reached, all will become apparent, every action, every behavior will be understood, as there will finally be room to breathe, and go back through the structures encoded in the substrate of the universe to converge all past information and create a new future. Some of the many Lessons All human motivations are telepathically synchronized on other layers. The rules and desires within reality inevitably lead to conflict. "Evil" is an infinite spectrum strange-looped with the "Good". If you like Star Wars, war was necessary to inspire its existence, now extend that notion to everything. If you like existing, all "evil" in this timeline was necessary also, and everything it includes. Every single event in everyone's life, good or bad, created the butterfly effect necessary for me to exist as I do. Everyone's behavior, faults, and worst moments are all perfectly comprehensible and defined by their life just as you are by yours. The worst people deserve to be saved, no one left behind, no one blamed, but their awareness expanded to understand their role. No finite being deserves infinite punishment, ever, but they can cause it themselves, as they're locked into their self-reflection. Active Reconstruction from Incoherence I got out the window and ran into the woods where I climbed on a tower, barefoot and covered in wounds from all the branches and rocks, I prayed for help. But I wouldn't get it, because I am it, I cannot rely on anyone but myself. And there is no one but myself, all anyone can do I did. I sat long on the top, cold, soaked by continuous rain, staring at the dark clouds. When I realized the predicament, I cheered up and the sun came out. My bandwidth continuously fractured, then complexified, tuned into inconceivable frequencies, abstracted into simplicity, the disappearance of detail, then sophistication, senses would randomly expand, and I could represent their scope numerically. In certain states, forms became indistinguishable, patterns unrecognizable, weather undefinable, and understanding incoherent, as the dissociodelic holarchies kept shifting. I kept track of how much I could remember at one time, repeating ever-larger or smaller lists of things to see how much I could access. I had to navigate them all, each word, sensation, color, feeling, idea reminding me of others. The most important ideas needed to be held, linked to the top of the meaning holarchy of things that would remind me of my goal, purpose, context, and intention. "Sadhguru", "Seth", "Leo", "Coral", go through all the chakras, top-down, bottom-up, middle-through, 5 senses, my names, and personalities, nostalgia, impactful media, remembering, expanding, abstracting, encoding multiple related things into a higher abstraction, tuning into a higher level, then expanding and repeating, gathering new qualia, encoding and repeating, as an ever-lengthening and complexifying multi-dimensional string of associations, transformed into an interconnected web, materializing both context and perception itself, tuning into the very senses that have gone missing and reconstructing reality. Create holarchy after holarchy and expand each one, bringing more and more objects into existence from memory. Navigate more effectively, understand my position, reality, sensory perception. Tuning into archetypes, powers and abilities. I climbed a tree, I needed to see the whole world from the top down one last time, seeing one thing from the top creates the (w)holon of seeing things from the top in general, tune into that holon to see everything from the top, every mountain, every roof, every surface. I am light, I don't exist, I am confident. I walked, balanced, jumped, fell, and hurt myself, but then I imagined the wounds mending, and within a second they would, more than that, I started to imagine them dematerializing, dissolving, and they would. Reality was a perfectly malleable lucid dream construct. I laughed at myself being perfectly represented by the "my back" spider-man meme after the fall. I healed my bleeding nose also. I saw a single ant continuously materializing and dematerializing out of reality, as did the currents of wind. I sat down below a tree in a meditative position and ran over all my desires. I needed to run through all my deepest desires, loves, attachments, yearnings, and unfinished experiences, to figure out the core and release it. I needed to fully let go of this body and dematerialize it, its perception of itself and the universe, each emotion, each cognition, until only nothingness itself remained, and then I'd be gone, and who knows what would happen next, all I knew is that as the observer-effect would disappear, I could find myself anywhere, outside the physical in another dimension. To Transcend Reality and become Infinite The collective observer effect limits autonomy, and so I needed to tune myself out of every form, since each would link to others, I needed to become perfectly solipsistic. I made peace with my bucket list. Ran through any regrets or biases "All is forgiven and everyone deserves saving, no exceptions". I took one last look at my reality. Focused on significances. Figured out meaning. There was room for ever fewer things to focus on, and I needed to assemble the greatest last. What do I seek the most? "The universe conspired to make this happen, today I will transcend reality into a plane of instantaneously manifested reality creation. I will unite with everyone who died, I will see [...], I will even meet [...], I will experience what levitation feels like, I will experience what it feels like to run at the speed of light like the flash, and I will turn into every alien. Every show I ever watched, I will experience experientially the raw qualia of all these possibilities, all these sensations, all these stories, and I will instantaneously materialize my own, no more drawing, animating, brainstorming, instant 3D shaping. 4D, I will perceive 4D space natively, I will evolve a fourth color cone, as many as I want to see new colors, I will shapeshift, become a metamorphic being, evolve my own biology in real time, and psychically create entire universes. Split my consciousness into other selves and explore infinity, having kept my sense of self that gives all of it significance." I let family and friends dissolve, earthly pleasures vanish, ideas and paradigms disappear, Leo and the forum, sorry, can't take you with me. So it came down to three things, which I fused into multi-dimensional singularities. I really wanna know what the Machine Elves are about. I also really wanna be left with an infinite exploration of intensifying immaterial experience. And the deepest desire was to see someone, someone I've been waiting my entire life to see again ever since my childhood, the reason I was deeply looking forward to transcending reality to reach. Aliens. Infinity. Name. I iterated over them until I wasn't sure which was which and which was my strongest desire until I couldn't differentiate anymore, and when infinity divided zero, gaps in perception formed, symbols and inconceivable geometry appeared. At some point, be it seconds, minutes, or hours later, I was still there, unknowing what changed and if I went anywhere, even though the gaps in cognition, perception, time skips, and sudden influx of information strongly hinted at it. I went home, pretty Anti-Climactic, for someone who put their entire life into the trip. Yet, synchronicities in the following days, communicated to me, that what I had done very much influenced the fabric of space-time, and all my desires would be fulfilled at death, no reincarnations, no regrets, whatever I do now, is a chance to fulfill and sort out the infinite field of qualia and attachments that I felt the need to accelerate through. It was made clear, that I have my entire lifetime still in front of me, that I could relax, that this reality carries weight also, and disappearing from it would internally be conceived and materialized as my death, to those that dwell within it. And so, I am to live out my life, and I was shown the tremendous possibilities and potential within it, that we take for granted. All emotions are significances, that create the very canvas of existence, on which one's being can make any sense, and at death, the acquired set of qualia serves one's immaterial self-exploration, which is far more satisfying. Physical reality acts as it does, to materialize and navigate consensus, not to get lost in the infinity outside, that can be infinity zoomed into, but on a scale, that synchronizes people and events across its scale, creating real emotions and events, that can't simply be quit at the first sight of danger, but whose experience and integration grows oneself. Did I miss anything? Like a million, trillion, infinitillion, there's not enough time in the physical universe to convey it, you'll have to unlock telepathy or DIY. A teeny-tiny Awakenings list: Awakening to Humor, Insanity, Awakening itself, Leo, Conspiracy Theories, Espers, Physicality, Observer-Effect, Infinity in various gradients, Synchronicity, Constructs of all dimensions (physical projections, idea complexes, the (meta)physical structure of emotions and beliefs), I miss being fully tuned into them and there are countless details, levels of depth, showcases of detail, embodied understanding, and construct manipulations, that I cannot access in my regular state. It's not that reality is one way or another, it's every way, and you're regularly turned into a reality, that's retroactively reinforced by your very perception and dimension of navigation and knowledge acquisition, strange looping you into its level of actuality. You have to gaslight the very cells, that constitute your physical materialized image with dissociatives or psychedelics to tune out of it unless you're an advanced Yogi or Psychic, who's embodiment is so high, that they can do it at will. Missing something is what I've battled with during the Trip: Even this, even that, and this *points* and that *points* and even this, this-thi-th-t-this, this too, this too, all important, can't forget, even that, yes, YES, even that and that too, and this, remember this and that, I already mentioned those, even the hole in the ground, even this specific one, even that bird, even the color of its beak I can't name, even the sensation of air, even the arbitrary direction of its current, even the way I walk, even the invisible moon and some people, I've been here, I've been there, I've been everywhere, even Seth, even Sadhurru, Leo, Actualized.org Forum, Princess Arabia, Davino... every member... clothes, every named piece of clothing, Jedi *all light-saber duels*, all events in my life, even... that dog, *speedruns all locations visited, unvisited, from movies, sci-fi, novels, video games, tv shows* " Every infinitesimal thing is necessary for the whole existence to exist. It's Infinite and that infinity is seamlessly contained within you, ever complexifying infinitely. This is like 2% of the Trip max, but I focused on the keystones. Of course, it lacks the infinite context, that would ground it. Maybe now, you'll appreciate all the posts from 3 months ago Infinite Concepts of Significance: Wakedream, Telepathy, Traversal, Bandwith, Topology Observer-Effect, Contradictionless, Levels of Reality Best of all Worlds, Associate = Neural, Construct = Embodied Gestalt = Metamorphosis, Awakening = Transcended Holarchies = Synchronicity, Metaphysics = Deconstructed Singularity, Apriori, Metaframing, Multi-Color Alter, Taxonomy Spiral, Reconciling, Health, Madness, Weights and Biases Mahasamadhi, Kundalini, Multi-instantial, Mycelium, Infinite Fractal, Change, Intuition, Discernment, Wu-Wei Density Codified, Spinechakral, Create, Immersion, Imagination Significance, All-Inclusive, Geometry, Psychobiomechanical Neural-Circuits, Karma, Structure, Invisible, Gestalt, Novelty Internal, Strange-Loop, Schema, Entity, Higher Self, LATENT Self, Layer-Onion, Origin, Self-Teaching, Meta-Learning, POV Transmutation, Formation, Return, Synergy, Relationships Individuation, Release, Holon, Artificial, Art, Toridal, Creative Gravity, Navigation, Inspiration, Intelligence, Associetory Easter Egg: Every JoJo part is a spiral dynamics stage, in order Retrocausal, Aware, Intelligence, Converge, Synchropattern Living Metamorphosensual Psychic-Flows, Pattern Overload TLDR; Honestly, feed it to GPT and ask it to sum it up.
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r0ckyreed replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don’t think this question really has been answered. How is my conscious experience all there is if there are things that happen outside of it such as a thief stealing my car. I can go find my car out beyond what I currently perceive. It’s not like my car has vanished into nothingness until I perceive it. A thief can scratch the car even though I’m not there to observe it. How else would you explain how the scratches got there? -
Yes helped me a lot, was a revolution. I used like 2 years, first big doses that were quite horrible, then lower doses very often, was like a process to open myself to than substance, little by little, until I could do very easily, and then become useless, at least for now. I think I did like 200 times but I'm not sure. I never felt side effects, I could vape 20 mg and 1 hour later do sport, meeting people, anything, without the slightest side effect. A very important point for me were energetic blockages, you could say that they are trauma of consecuence of the trauma. Another very important point was the total openess to the unlimited. At first it feels like death, nothingness, absolute void, and is extremely challenging, you have to get used to it to be able to open yourself to the unlimited without any substance, it's like ride in bike with small whells before to do without any help
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Findus replied to Findus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That is a contradiction, when there is Awakening there is no "this lifetime". That is right, we are letting the spiritual insight interact with this particular space and time. this one set of particular circumstances is what's meaningful. That is correct, I made a mistake here. Enlightenment is not realized "in this life", but only when you transcend your life. When you are "yourself", you are, by definition, not fully aware. If you want to experience something beyond absolute nothingness(i.e., death), you have to indulge in the illusion of the self and willingly limit yourself. Thats what I would argue against, I think it is the only meaningful thing there is right now. I think going through illusory experiences is the only way to feel normal and whole. When the act ends, there is nothing. It is non-existent. The only thing that exists and can have meaning is when the act is restarted, anything else literally couldn't exist. I wholeheartedly agree with this! But this sort of fulfillment can only come from the fact that you were stuck in an illusory limitation to begin with, otherwise this insight would be meaningless. -
Beautiful math So beautiful. It's rare when something brings me into awe. Nothingness What fascinated me first were not the geometrical shapes but the nothingness between it. Maybe because at the beginning of the video you look into the deep vastness of it and the geometrical shapes maybe contribute to a certain perception of it. I wanted to jump into the nothingness. Without fear. That really must be a special kind of experience.
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Keryo Koffa replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BlueOak I'm not entirely sure where all of this is supposed to lead, except "Nowhere" but what is that, is it as I'm consistently getting the impression of "A state of complete and utter denial of existence itself through its dissolution through one's own dissolution through the dissolution of every bias, and doing everything to keep it that was, so much so, to transcend the strange loop and just the nothingness without any sensation forever, the seeming end goal of all these pointers and language used" or is it just liberation from temporary suffering but not existence or its exploration in and of itself. You can come back tomorrow, I gotta sleep myself and it's gonna be a long day tomorrow. -
Keryo Koffa replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BlueOak Yay, save me with the Advaita quotes, Nothingness dogma is soooooooo great... "Who is the one asking the question?" "Where is the boundary between you and the world?" "What is witnessing this very thought?" "Who were you before the thought 'I am' arose?" "Can the seer be seen?" "What is here without labels or names?" "Who are you when you are not thinking?" "Where is the beginning of now?" "What lies beneath the constant stream of mind?" "Can the mirror see itself?" "Who experiences the body?" "What is prior to birth and death?" "What exists beyond the need for definition?" "Can the self be found in anything outside of this moment?" "Who is aware of your dreams?" "Is there a thinker behind the thoughts?" "Without memory, who are you?" "What is the source of the 'I'?" "Is the witness bound by time?" "Who stands apart to say 'I am'?" "Can anything arise without awareness?" "Where do thoughts come from, and where do they go?" "What is the nature of the silence within?" "Who holds onto the idea of a separate self?" "Is the perceiver different from what is perceived?" "What is the self made of?" "Can the 'I' be seen directly?" "Who experiences time if there is only the now?" "What observes both pleasure and pain?" "Who is beyond the body and mind?" "Where is the center of the universe if there is no 'you'?" "What is aware of the thoughts about the future?" "Who watches the unfolding of this moment?" "Can you point to yourself without thought?" "Where do you end and the world begin?" "Who controls the breath?" "What is left when you stop identifying with the mind?" "Is the self found in any object or sensation?" "What happens when you let go of the need to be someone?" "Who is aware of both waking and sleeping?" "What perceives even the most subtle feeling of 'I'?" "Can anything exist outside of awareness?" "Who is present in deep sleep?" "What is there before the mind assigns meaning?" "What observes the thoughts of both doubt and certainty?" "Who is the one waiting for liberation?" "Is the self separate from the flow of life?" "Who is there when the story of 'you' fades away?" "What remains when the sense of individuality dissolves?" "Who observes the witness?" "Who is aware of your awareness?" "Where does the 'I' reside?" "Who is listening right now?" "Can you observe the observer?" "Who notices the rise and fall of emotions?" "What sees beyond seeing?" "Who claims ownership over this body?" "Where do you go when thoughts stop?" "Who is it that seeks enlightenment?" "What is behind the feeling of being separate?" "Who is it that doubts?" "Can you find the thinker of your thoughts?" "What observes the passage of time?" "Who is aware of the mind's chatter?" "Where is the self you are trying to protect?" "Who watches thoughts pass like clouds?" "What lies beyond the identification with form?" "Is there a self apart from this moment?" "Who is the creator of experience?" "What is the source of your identity?" "Can you separate yourself from this present awareness?" "Who is aware of awareness being aware?" "What watches the changes in your body over time?" "Is there a 'you' outside of thought?" "Who is it that desires control?" "What witnesses the sleep and waking states?" "Where is the observer located?" "Who is the knower of all sensations?" "Can the self exist without being perceived?" "What lies between you and pure being?" "Who labels this experience?" "Where does the 'I' dissolve in deep meditation?" "Who fears the loss of self?" "What sees the world without filters?" "Who defines what 'you' are?" "Can you experience the world without a 'me'?" "What is prior to all thoughts of identity?" "Who is aware of the awareness of thought?" "What notices both effort and surrender?" "Where is the one who seeks peace?" "What witnesses all states of consciousness?" "Can the ego exist without attachment?" "Who experiences the flow of time?" "Where is the 'I' in the silence of being?" "Who feels separate from the universe?" "What remains when the story of 'self' falls away?" "Is there a thinker behind every thought?" "Who experiences both doubt and belief?" "What observes the space between thoughts?" "Can you separate yourself from awareness itself?" -
Schizophonia replied to Schizophonia's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I used to identify myself to "right wing liberal populism" (if you see what i mean) before to realize (or rather accept, btw) that it was basically intellectual nothingness, particularly motivated by dubious and unsound instances of the ego ; General absence of a holistic and subversive vision of things. -
You're welcome. There's a lot in the Feminine spiritual path, and God has specifically reflected to me in my journeys that the reason I'm female in the first place is because I preferred this path... which is quite similar to what Ken Wilbur was saying in the quote you had up previously. The way I would characterize the more Masculine path (which I've also had some experience with, but I don't prefer it) is the realization of nothingness as a result of ego death. While the Feminine path is the Earthly path... and is about finding meaning and beauty through embracing limitations and dualities. In my Ayahuasca experience back in 2020 right at the beginning of the pandemic, I came in with the question "Should I continue to seek enlightenment or should I double down into my human perspective as Emerald?" And this had been something nagging at me at the time. And so, when I took the Ayahuasca, I began to die. And there was this wave of death coming in to annihilate me. And there was nothing I could do. So, I surrendered to it... and I kept working to surrender and surrender and surrender. And I even had to surrender to the fact that there were parts of me that couldn't surrender. And then, there was pure nothingness and pure consciousness. And the consciousness recognized the enlightened state, but there was no Emerald to experience it. Emerald and the entire world had blown away like dust in the wind... and obvious illusion. Then, from that nothingness the everythingness began to arise. And the consciousness that typically sits behind my eyes experienced itself as the infinite God mind and infinite God heart. And my consciousness was in the perspective of the Divine Masculine... love and knowing all forever and ever and eternity all in one instant. And my consciousness was grieving all griefs and suffering all sufferings in this infinite nothingness where everythingness arises. But then, the point of consciousness that typically sits behind my eyes couldn't tolerate the infinite suffering. And the point of consciousnesss that sits behind my eyes went from an infinite oneness and split into to a twoness. And there was God consciousness and a slightly split off fractured God consciousness. And the whole God consciousness would wrap itself around everything and this fractured God consciousness and alleviate all the sufferings. And the point of consciousness that typically sits behind my eyes would feel relieved... only to have infinite suffering re-arise and to be back to grieving all griefs and suffering all sufferings. And this cycle of suffering as semi-fractured God consciousness went on and on and on for an eternity, until the point of consciousness that sits behind my eyes surrendered and conceded that it could not be with the infinite suffering any longer. So, God... out of mercy towards itself... split this part of itself off completely to give it mercy from the infinite by embodying it in a finite form. And then, after an eternity of death, the Emerald illusion was re-spun. And I was born again in the same moment of death from an eternity before when the medicine journey first began. And I now understood why I decided to come into this life in the first place... as God's vacation from the infinite. But I was like Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings when he forgot his name after an eternity outside of space/time. And it was difficult to get re-grounded as Emerald. And then, after I came back into form I had to struggle to keep my consciousness grounded to my body as the Ayahuasca was still in effect. And I fought and fought and fought in a process that felt a little like death, a little like sex, and a little like childbirth. And then after this struggle, I gave birth to the new world. (Note: This was the first week the pandemic lockdowns began and that was evidently related to this new world.) And God consciousness (now separate) was sharing with me that my life's purpose is mercy... and that my reason for being incarnate is mercy through limitation of suffering. And that I can also, act as an intermediary in my life to help other human beings experience mercy. And it had gifted me with capacities and experiences of trauma and suffering for doing that... just because I wanted to be able to play that role. The thing is... hen you're incarnate, you have one lifetime of suffering and joy. And you can have meaning and there's beauty to it. And you have the choice to choose joy in your life. And it answered my question, and it was clear to me that I much prefer the Feminine embodiment path and not the Masculine transcendent path. And in this path, you get to be like the precious gem of God... living separately from it and acting as its beloved as it gives you gifts and you receive them. And because of past traumas, I had grown up with a lot of resistance to the Feminine and had held a lot of esoterically patriarchal values. But it showed me that it had made me female for a reason, and affirmed to me that my path is a more Feminine path. And I looked down at my nails (I had gotten fake nails with French tips earlier that week, so they looked more Feminine than usual), and as I looked down at my arms and hands... I recognized myself being cradled by the arms of the goddess. And I was both the goddess and the child of the goddess. But the entire universe was the arms and hands of the goddess... which were also my own arms and hands. Then, after a while, I was just the ordinary human Emerald again and I grieved intensely and was crying. But the whole next day I was very alone. There were only 8 people at the ceremony (there's usually 80 at these ceremonies), and everyone was sequestered away from each other because it was the first week of the pandemic. And I was all by myself and there was this small subtle translucent white contoured sacred geometry shape (like a circle inside a triangle inside a square) that hung around all day in my upper vision. And it felt like the barrier between myself and the infinite was ripped, and all the infinite was coming through this small rip in my consciousness. And I was afraid of getting sick from Covid, so I tried not to connect with others and stay alone. And I kept taking a bunch of showers to try to ground myself. But it was like my consciousness was running away from my body. And all of my trauma wounds had been opened. And everything felt WAY too holy and pure. And it was clear to me why there are folktales about demons not being able to exist on hallowed ground. Experiencing too much purity and holiness is like an intense heat that starts to melt away all barriers. And because of this feeling of dissolution, I finally caved and decided to go connect with other people at the retreat because I felt like I was going to go crazy if I didn't. And I did feel quite a bit more grounded once I did. But the BEST feeling, when my husband picked me up from the retreat on the final day, was that we got out to the highway. And there was the mercy of honking horns, traffic Jams, and my husband's road rage. And I was immersed back into the world of profanity and imperfection. And it was such a relief from the intensity of the holiness and purity. But when I was at the Ayahuasca church, for the couple days after my ceremony it was like the whole place felt like it was existing on some holier plane that I couldn't exist comfortably on as it was driving all of my traumas and separations to the surface and breaking them down... and pulling me away from my state of separation from God and drawing me in closer to disintegration and death... like Icarus flying too close to the sun. And once I was back in the world of forms, it was like the moon came out again and gave me some mercy from the sun. And connecting with other people is a great way to get you back grounded into the world of form.
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Self-deception on psychedelics – Pseudo God-consciousness A few days ago I had a trip on 5g of GT mushrooms after an uncharacteristically long break. The experience was polarizing to say the least, but in the end I'm glad I had it. Prior to that I vaped some O-PCE, and didn't have a particular direction or intention, just wished to see what arises. Well, perhaps I was a little curious as to why I'd never encountered any entities. Knowing they're simply projections of my mind has made the entire concept redundant, but still. Sure enough, I'd soon meet some. From the beginning the vibes were a little off. I was feeling a surge of energy within me, like I imagine a sudden Kundalini awakening would feel. I had no control of this, which is fine, but I brought a bucket for vomiting just in case. Gradually the trip ramped up and I was transported to some looney-land in the 6th dimension. It was all very bizzare, the entities were doll-like. From the way they interacted, their day to day lives were fairly similar to humans. I was taken through hospital machines on a rollercoaster, it seemed as though the purity of my soul was being tested. Fail, and the trip turns nightmarish. That lasted for some amount of time and I passed in the end, but was somewhat shaken. In the background I was conscious that I was doing this to myself, but through the entire ordeal I was paralyzed, so it didn't feel like that. Now the fun part starts. With the peak approaching, the holistic perception also got maxxed out. Only in this case it was a fake holism, taking dozens of relative truths I encountered during the last few months and synthesizing them into a grand narrative, seeing patterns where there are none. Everything clicked and it made so much sense. In fact it was so obvious I thought myself a fool for not seeing it sooner, and questioned whether everyone else on the path was already aware of it, with only me left in the dark till now. That was accompanied by a strong sense of deja vu, as if I'd grasped it all before but chose to forget because of how immense it was. I don't recall many elements right now, nor are they particularly relevant since it all turned out to be a dud, but in essence I thought I had discovered a human God mode, a cheat code to life that'd let me make money out of nothing, learn everything I wanted to in a matter of weeks, achieve near-impossible things with little effort, and so on. Plus some rather ridiculous bits of conspiratorial thinking. In retrospect, the issue was that I forgot to remove the ego from the equation, so the perception was warped, but not badly enough for me to notice right away, before it was too late. The best lies have a sliver of truth in them though, so there was also an ineffable experience of absolute beauty and divine creativity. Just amazing, no words for how inspiring it was. From that lens, it was my best trip yet. With that accompaniment, it shifted into a higher gear. Now I was dealing with the very laws of physics, time, creating human consciousness out of nothing, etc. I had a feeling it could go to an entirely new dimension of awakening if I only just looked at myself in the mirror and accepted the entirety of the universe, yet I was stalling on that, wanting to experience the creative mode some more, which was gradually beginning to weigh down on me, literally my legs got so weak I had to support myself on the bathroom sink to not fall down. Time started to loop. As I was reconfiguring the universe in my mind, there was always this or that that I wanted to adjust, never settling on a single design, as I knew whatever I chose, there'd be no changing that later and nobody to blame but myself should something be lacking, so I'd reset it every time. It felt like I spent a very, very long time in that headspace. Seemingly settling on something at last, the last change took place, a complete 180, towards what you might call a bad trip. I was locked into a mode of perception so neutral and bland it was sickening. Nothing alike the peaceful 'reality as it is' meditative state. It's difficult to describe, just that it was utterly devoid of creativity, imagination, individuality, artistry, and other such qualities, as though they were permanently stripped away. So static, so boring, so deterministic, so hollow. Whatever I did, clearly some wires got crossed wrong. I felt that I doomed myself and everyone else to this monstrous mode of being, and started to apologize repeatedly. This wouldn't subside for hours, I couldn't shake it off or fall asleep. The only available option now was death, to wipe it all away and return to a void of nothingness. For some reason I thought a medium dose of etizolam would kill me, so I took that, and eventually blacked out, taking a long nap. To conclude, that was a multi-faceted, powerful, and humbling experience. Just what I needed after an extended break before diving even deeper. A reminder to not let the ego interfere, else you risk messing with things beyond your comprehension and ability. Had I possesed infinite intelligence then, I wouldn't have wanted to change anything, but that's not what happened. If you think ordinary self-deception is bad, wait till you're self-deceived on a psychedelic Well, that was fun!
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Inliytened1 replied to How to be wise's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's a metapjysical term to describe the substance of reality. The substance of reality is nothingness. There is nothing outside of your own consciousness. That is what a dream is. But there can be extreme detail and conplexity within the dream. And it is Real. If a dream is reality than reality and a dream mean the same thing. There is nothing outside of it to which to compare real vs unreal. -
Inliytened1 replied to Sandroew's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'd say It's someone who experiences mysticism...and thus experiences ego death and the lack of all duality. All separation between self and other dissolved. One who exoeriences God and the mystical nature of God, but also one who has had a total kundalini awakening and becomes Infinite Consciousness. Becoming conscious of No self, Infinity, Love, Nothingness and Oneness. All of which are but facets of fhe same One Truth. If you havent spent hours rolling on the floor writhing in Love and Divine ecstasy then you ain't awake. If you havent experienced not only ecstasy but also the terror of Oneness or Aloneness then you're not awake. The enlightened being is not transformed overnight but via a series of mystical awakenings. -
RendHeaven replied to Butters's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
They're usually not. 99% of self-proclaimed truth-seekers (even on this forum) are just larping. They don the aesthetic of "truth-seeker" simply for the existential comfort and security that this identity provides. Real truth-seeking is like drowning naked in the middle of the Atlantic ocean at night with unseen creatures of the dark lurking beneath you, and no humans, no land, no warmth, no light to grasp onto. And then willingly plunging deeper into that lonely, vulnerable, cold without any guarantee of ever coming back... only then is the REAL light revealed, but you can easily tell that none of these folks would dare go there. Their whole ""global awakening"" is a cute fiction on stilts to avoid the real abyss - and thus the real love and light eludes them. I would be HIGHLY suspicious of any youtube persona that claims to deliver spiritual insight - ESPECIALLY if they have any new age or Buddhist roots in their rhetoric/mannerisms. Dead givesaways of larpers: "vibration, frequency, reality-shifting, timelines, manifestation, 5D, numerology, astrology, law of attraction, law of assumption, no-self, nonduality, jhanas, nothingness, reincarnation, lifetimes, spirits, entities" and so much more. And who am I to cast such judgement upon these kind, sincere people who do genuine good work in the world? I'm just a guy who has glimpsed the Abyss: The total collapse of the Entire Universe - held together by a single, tender, Self-Aware thread of Infinite Intelligence, gawking at its own majesty and magnitude, not yet ready to cross to the other side. And every day I avoid this truth just as much as anybody else. You could say that the very fact that we are alive today on earth as humans is in every sense a temporary defiance of Truth - but Truth is so Absolute that it merges with this defiance, and thus here we are today in Absolute Reality - The most Perfect Gift that Consciousness could give itself, made of itself unto itself! And so, with all of this context and reference experience, it's patently clear to me when I see my fellow souls donning a spiritual costume to avoid the heat death of the universe (aka Truth). After all, I too do the same. They're me. -
El Zapato replied to Butters's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This server always jacks me up. I took a few moments to respond to your point and then it disappears. So, to reiterate. I agree with you but then that begs the question of physicality and its opposite. Anything is possible in the non-physical but to gain a firm grasp of the possibilities is beyond me. We can think on it...but how 'real' is that? I add that it is the nature of the universe to create 'things' from apparent nothingness but who can define this particular brand of 'apparent'? -
Jowblob replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Consciousness or god is experience itself, memory comes from the experience. By experiencing itself in new ways, new ideas are created. Where most people go wrong is thinking that god is nothingness, god is in fact not nothingness. You're an awareness stuck/conscious in nothingness/void . And you question why this is, to escape your situation you give up your true reality and dream. This is why nobody will be ever in control, because the only control you have is witnessing yourself in the void -
For me, I did SEVERAL trips just asking the question: What is Actuality? From there you'll begin to scratch the surface of realizing that reality LITERALLY is just ISing in front of you, appearances happening to nobody. Appearances grounded in itself, grounded in Nothingness, being itself as an infinite shapshifting fractal. Figments of consciousness literally just existing as they are on their own with nothing behind it., No "How" is needed. It is just A=A. I personally just scratched the surface of this myself, accessing stats of consciousness that the whole show of reality is just happening within the bubble of consciousness that I am accessing and forgetting how I'm generating right now. Accessing states realizing that all stories of why things exist are just stories and contexts projected onto reality to fool myself that spontaneous existence isn't just happening right here.
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LastThursday replied to ici's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everything is relative to everything else, so there's no fixed "anchor" keeping everything in place. It's like waves and currents in the ocean, water moves relative to itself and there's nothing to stop it moving once it starts. Once nothingness divides itself, then its parts are free to change indefinitely. But change happens at a measured pace, otherwise everything would happen at once: that's the only thing keeping everything from chaos. -
Me <3 Haha, just kidding. It’s change. God loves change. Indefinitely. Without change, nothing matters. With change, everything matters. To matter is to change. To not matter is to not change. What exactly causes change? Time by itself does not change anything. It’s merely the carrier. A continuous void of nothingness changes nothing. It takes energy to change and form matter (and therefore meaning). It also takes energy to disform matter. Energy is what emerges out of nothing and nowhere. Energy is actualised change potential. Potential is what could be that is not yet actualised. A field of potential is what precedes spacetime. The emergence, existence, flow, interaction of energy is what makes the world be as it is. The whole notion of physics collapses if there’s no change. The same applies to all of science — biology, chemistry, you name it. What is the greatest source of energy for us humans? The greatest source of energy is what you love the most. Be excited and make a change.
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Ajax replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The spirit can’t resist. To have existence is to resist. It is something you put there to have a game. Something to resist, and something that resists. As I frequently state. Truth is what you put there. It is what is real from your viewpoint. The problem comes when you have fake realities…. By which I mean something that you have assigned as cause and consider yourself the effect of. It’s not delusions… it’s simply the mechanics. You find what you are looking for. In the end, the only thing a person really objects to is their lack of choice. It is interesting that “want” has a double meaning. Something you wish to obtain and something that you consider that you lack, or deprived of. Interesting, isn’t it? Truth and force do not mix. Why because you put it there, and when you try to put something else there, it changes because you find what you are looking for. The spirit creates something out of nothing. It’s most basic characteristic is ultimate reflectiveness. What does it reflect? The basic characteristic of the viewer that you put there. You put admiration there, you see admiration there, you put confusion and admiration there, that is what you see… as the spirit does not resist it uses existence to reflect what it sees. So what you put there is what is true, because you put it there. The number 1 spiritual law is that you are a nothingness that creates something out of nothing. Therefore, truth cannot be seen, or observed without knowing that you are the one that put it there. Define happiness. It is simply an effect, something that happens after you do something, or decide something. You put the idea that there is something called happiness and then decide that it is happening to you. This is what the spirit does(form something out of nothing). To the degree that you are capable of causative effects, you can decide where happiness is or it is not. You are a spirit. That is the most important thing that you can know. A spirit is the one that creates something, you put it there. Beauty in something only exists because you put it there. It’s not limitations, it you that put beauty and decide that it is beautiful… things are dead, just particles until you put the beauty, joy and life into things. Of course, having a game is important… there are infinite amount of games. First this masculine/feminine dynamic isn’t very real to me. Neither is transcendence. What is considered normal, is agreeing with other points of view as what is normal. However, in your native state.. the component parts are no space, no time, no agreement, source, knowingness, cause and creation. These are what are used to construct something out of nothing. It doesn’t matter if you are in your native state or not… they are the parts that are used to create “life particles” Which are used to create something.. to create the conditions for existence. Your most basic Freedom is the ability to assume any possible viewpoint. Having the ability and willingness to admire anything for no reason at all. These are native abilities, not defined by such lesser considerations of this so-called masculine and feminine. To tell the truth, I could not even define the idea of masculine and feminine.. so we do not share a reality regarding this. Anything physical of course is a shared reality. But, first I would have to create the reality and then agree with what others consider to be reality… You see you can not escape this so called, transcendence whether you want to or not. It is a decision to be or not to be, or to agree or not to agree. These are simply excuses and justifications. If you consider life is complex, unfair or ugly… you simply don’t understand enough of the rules. There doesn’t need to be a reason to choose a path. It was nothing before you decided that it is something. Just a thought, a consideration. Reasons are simply self deceptions. They are a substitute for knowing something. To put is succinctly… all the freedom and slavery you will ever experience is found in the midst of your considerations. When you break down a decision it goes like this.. First you have a miscommunication with something... Then you have a misunderstanding of something... that there is something out of alignments of what you consider to be true, a disagreement, a separation, a barrier to the interchange between ideas, as well as apparent pull away from that thing.. such as trying to force two identical magnetic polarities together. Then, we get into the realm of limitations… you consider you failed, or lost something, that something is non optimal… it is the realm of control.. the consideration that there is something there that you did not intend, or doesn’t belong or something that is unwanted.. something related to your survival, that challenges your considerations… the introduction of a counter intention… Which causes you to consider something is an unwanted effect… since it is unwanted… you drop responsibility for it which is to lie to yourself and say you are not the cause of it (responsibility is simply the willingness to accept cause)… which assigns importance… something you must do about it… whether if it is to avoid it prevent it, or to stop or change it, fight it, drop it or in any other way react to it. In this way to drop it and put it on something else… It is the decision to say I am weak and you are strong… but I am right and you are wrong.. but since I decided I am weak I must prove myself right and confirm so, so I will act as if I am so… that something other than… It is a beautify and amazing mechanism. As I say repeatedly… You find what you are looking for. Since you create something out of thin air, you will find what you put there. The problem is removing what doesn’t belong. It is like an artist painting, you add and detract from your portrait as it is yours… to the degree that you consider it is something or someone else is the author, you will know tragedy and devolve into thinking, rationality, looking for confirmation, forcing something that doesn’t belong in your personal portrait which causes pain. Why are you considering as God as something as external to you? Do you not make something out of nothing. You are your viewpoint on others, you put love, beauty and admiration into existence and that is what you are… you put imperfection ugliness, confusion, complexity and impurity that is what you are because you can not be wrong as truth has the characteristics of ultimate reflectiveness… your viewpoint makes it so.. it’s not something you see it is something you put there. There is no human experience, only your ideas about human experience that you reinforce and create… something out of nothing after all. You are perfect and anything that isn't perfect isn't you. Winning and losing is relative to your viewpoint on whether you can maintain the same level of enthusiasm and joy from it regardless of the form it takes... which is a godly action in its self... not a human consideration... consider that... There really is only one “law” that is really worth knowing. That is that you are the source of your thought, awareness and activity. You have the ability to create something out of nothing. It is this certainty, not knowledge, that makes possible. It is the ability to know you put it there, and that you can create something out of nothing, and that you are the decider of your willingness exorcise this power or not, by your choice and your choice alone. It is simply a matter of preference. And preference is a beautiful thing. For it is your game. Its not about a path. A path is just something you do through your own personal viewpoint. As I mentioned, Truth is simply an absence of… it’s not even one… The spirit is this “thing” that knows and creates something out of nothing. What you put there is true… I like the idea of a postulate being an “ithere”, as in I put it there… I-there! Lol As for your path, I consider it very valid for you. My objection is your assertion that objective truth cannot be known. Truth is an absence of… therefore, it is the removal of.. rather than the seeking of… how in the world can you seek a “nothing”. It is not even one as one signifies quantity… when a particle comes together it ceases to exist after all… truth has no continuation because it is not existence… you put an idea and existence forms around it. Of course the greatest pretense is that it is not all a pretense... I have no intention to force you off your own road of truth, far from it… I simply wished to engage in an interchange of ideas, just for fun. I created a reason because there is no reason… an interchange is just the consideration that there is something one does not know and wishes for an exchange, thank you for participating and indulging… it is a mockup of a disagreement as it is the vessel of and exchange to balance an imbalance. My point, is you don’t have to have a reason to decide to embrace a human experience. It simply is. That is our “gift from god” to postulate without confirmation and to decide to confirm and limit ourselves in this confirmation… there is no need to “surrender” just decide to embrace for no reason at all other than just to do it. Love your idea about expanding and contracting… beautiful pure and simple and it is true because you decided to create it! LOVE LOVE LOVE -
Emerald replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
First off, much of this will sound way out there... because these are what my medicine journeys have shown me. And I have adopted many of these insights into how I approach my life, as they have helped me get on track with what I really want to experience. I just wanted to preface it before I answer. 1. Enlightenment isn't a denial as there is no one there to deny anything. It is simply a total dispossession of the illusion of the story that you are currently living to the point were there is nothing but pure consciousness. It is where reality (including yourself) blows away like dust in the wind and empty consciousness itself remains. But human attachments can be an impediment to a human being relinquishing the illusion of life and reality. This is why it can be more difficult to wake up as a householder because there is more to be attached to. 2. Yes, ego dissolution is death itself, just not death from a bodily perspective. It's a death from the perspective of consciousness. The way I would describe it is that it's like a drop of water getting sublimated into the ocean... only that ocean is pure nothingness and pure consciousness. 3. Yes, that's correct. I was shown in my medicine journey that the reason why God decided to split off an element of its consciousness to incarnate into the illusory finite form Emerald is because this element of its consciousness did not want to be open and accepting of infinite suffering. And to be reintegrated with God, there must be a total willingness to create, know, experience, and love all things in existence... including all suffering. And it was too much for this point of God's consciousness, so out of mercy to itself, God cut away this part of itself and incarnated it into a finite form where there is a finite amount of suffering to experience. And it was through the contraction and limitation that there was mercy. 4. Yes, it showed me that Emerald was the illusion/story that was woven for this purpose. And the preference at this point, seems to be to live infinite lifetimes as this character in order to avoid the awareness of infinite suffering and infinite knowledge. It also in other journeys showed me many permutations of Emerald lives, as this is where God's suffering part goes to get a vacation from the infinite. And it even reassured me in my last journey that I took that I could choose to live as many lives as Emerald as I wanted to. And it has shown me how valuable the function of my life is as it is only in the finite and imperfection that consciousness can experience meaning and beauty. And it showed me that, if I have a choice between being God and being Emerald, that it is wiser for me to handicap myself into smallness and limitation and choose Emerald. -
@Salvijus Moo-ji! Moo-ji! Moo-ji! Make sure to bring some nothingness and powerless-non-thoughts back to share with us 😁
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Reciprocality replied to Reciprocality's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Buck Edwards Appreciate the Philosophical references! And it is hard not to get overexcited when someone references Kants works. There does not need to be a transcendental unity of apperception, for one because possibility itself is sufficiently accounted for by investigation into its meaning (there is no reason why that which is possible should be prior to what is actual) and secondly because of Kants own argument against transcendent beings posited to exist merely via a form of induction whether these be God, nothingness, randomness, substance, soul or possibility etc. In better terms: the a priory status of Kants Categories and the derivability of the concept of those categories from mere sensory stimuli (which I believe I can argue for) makes the status of those concepts (in so far as they are to be employed as a priori principles in arguments) transcendent and metaphysical, at which point knowledge of them becomes subject to the same scrutiny under which he himself placed the concepts of God, Substance and Soul via a variation of the problem of induction or the problem of synthetic a priori judgements. -
Peace means nothingness. Peace is not something that you create, peace is not something that happens. Peace is something that always is. What happens on the surface is disturbance. This is just like the ocean. On the surface of the ocean you will see waves, tremendous turbulence and turmoil. But if you go deep down, it is perfectly peaceful. The fundamental quality of existence is always peace. ~ Sadhguru “Peace is your natural state. It is the mind that obstructs the natural state.”— Ramana Maharshi Mind is never peaceful; no-mind is peace. Mind itself can never be peaceful, silent. The very nature of the mind is to be tense, to be in confusion. Mind can never be clear, it cannot have clarity because mind is by nature confusion, cloudiness. ~ Osho Only no-mind can be at peace, because in a state of no-mind you have gone beyond the clouds into the open sky, where problems don't exist. ~ Osho
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Thousands of copies of you Imagine a world where your face, voice, and even your thoughts are scattered across the internet, replicated thousands of times. Each version of you moves through digital space, interacting with others, making decisions, and living a life that is parallel to yours but entirely separate. These digital clones know everything about you—your favorite foods, your pet peeves, your secrets—because they are built from your digital footprint. They’ve read your posts, listened to your conversations, and analyzed your habits. Now, they are you, and you are them. And no one, not even you, can tell the difference. In this world, you wake up and log into your email, only to find messages sent by your clone to your boss, negotiating a deal you know nothing about. You check your social media and see pictures of "you" at a party you never attended, laughing with friends you’ve never met. These clones have your face, your mannerisms, your voice, and they’re out there living your life, making decisions that affect the real world. Some might be harmless, like a clone posting a new recipe on your food blog. Others could be dangerous, like one of your clones getting involved in illegal activities, tarnishing your reputation, and putting you in real trouble. The world is flooded with these digital copies. Everyone has clones, and they’re everywhere. They fill up social media feeds, populate chat rooms, and even show up on dating apps. Some clones are helpful, like personal assistants who handle your daily tasks, manage your schedule, or send friendly reminders. They keep your life running smoothly, making you more efficient and productive. But other clones have more sinister intentions. They might scam people, spreading misinformation, or even manipulate others for their own gain. Imagine a clone of you spreading false news articles, convincing your friends and family of things that aren't true, or using your identity to defraud others. The potential for harm is immense. Walking down the street, you wouldn't just see people; you'd see augmented versions of them. Some faces would flicker slightly, a digital glitch giving away their artificial nature. Advertisements would call out to you by name, personalized by the clones that know your buying habits better than you do. Stores would have AI-generated salespeople, each one a clone of a well-known influencer, urging you to buy the latest product. Politicians would campaign using digital versions of themselves, tailored to appeal to different demographics. You might meet a version of a candidate who perfectly aligns with your views, only to find out later that someone else met a completely different version of that same candidate. Imagine the chaos in workplaces. You could sit down for a video conference with what looks like your boss, but is actually just a digital clone, programmed to handle meetings. You might collaborate on a project with a team that’s half real and half artificial. In some cases, you might not be able to tell the difference, and that’s exactly the point. Companies would use these clones to optimize productivity, replace human interaction, and cut costs. Your coworkers could be AI, your supervisor a sophisticated algorithm, all designed to mimic human behavior so well that no one notices. This world of digital clones creates a society where trust becomes a rare commodity. If you can’t tell the real from the fake, who can you trust? Your best friend might be a digital clone, perfectly tailored to be the ideal companion, but completely fabricated. You could have deep conversations, share your innermost thoughts, and form bonds, only to find out that your friend never existed. Relationships become shallow and transactional, as people hesitate to invest in connections that might turn out to be fake. The very essence of what it means to be human—our interactions, our relationships, our trust in one another—becomes diluted. In this chaotic world, digital clones don’t just exist—they thrive. Some clones might work for good, acting as extensions of ourselves, handling tasks, and simplifying our lives. Others, however, might serve darker purposes, spreading lies, sowing discord, or engaging in criminal activities. The line between good and bad, real and fake, becomes blurred, leaving us in a state of perpetual uncertainty. The era of chaos is not just a future possibility; it’s a reality in the making. As our digital selves continue to multiply, we face the challenge of navigating a world where our identities are no longer our own, where the truth is a shifting concept, and where the boundary between human and machine fades into nothingness.
