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@Inliytened1 I think it may be an impossible question to answer , and may show that complete nothingness can't "be" . If the universe was finite there would be nothing to enter after the end but no force to stop you ,

@1liamo78 nothingness has no form. Even the word nothing is just a pointer. Thus in this case whatever your ideas of nothingness are is not nothingness. Be careful not to fall into a trap on what your ideas of nothingness are.

When I think of nothingness I imagine like the universe, with no stars in it. Just everything pure black and my mind. That's what comes to my mind. Lol

@Serotoninluv sorry I don't quite understand , I'm not the brightest mind in the "bubble" haha, but basically I'm trying to understand what complete nothingness Would be like (weather there "is" such a thing or not). Especially that point I made , putting your hand out the bubble, there would be nothing to put your hand into but there would be no force to stop it, I was trying to imagine complete nothingness for a while and I imagined there was no anything at all but then somehow a bubble appeared with myself in it and that was everything , the whole universe, not contemplating what's inside the bubble but only outside , even though there is no outside, for me it's a mind fuk

The idea of complete nothingness is not an easy thing to imagine , use your imagination for a minute and imagine that you are in a bubble and that bubble and its contents is the ONLY thing that exists, so what would you see as you look out the bubble , what force would stop your hand from reaching outside the bubble, if there is nothing outside there is nothing to put your hand into but also there could be no force to stop you? It's just a thought exercise

Yes. I have my ideas, but maybe I am wrong. In the material paradigm my response would be that from Niels Bohr So, what we think is real it is really not as we expected. What about experience? Is nothingness real? God?

@Leo Gura Thank you. That helped. I definitely feel like intuitive physical activity is what centers me. Puts me in the zone. Gets me flowing. Been doing all that. But I also feel like the more I flow, the bigger the mindfuck gets if I slip back into the pattern. It is incredibly paradoxical, because radical surrender is what led me to these realizations and levels. And it's like now, every move or action requires resistance on my behalf. Resistance towards being one with nothingness. Static nonexistence. Eternal silence. Its like will is now the same as resistance. Keep in mind this is not really happening to me, even though I use the letter "I". It is beyond me as a mind/body complex. Senses dissolve, identity gets completely lost. It's happening to reality as a totality. It is literally like merging with nothingness, which is now obviously not nothing anymore. I cannot unsee what's behind the scenes. Or not be aware of it constantly, to be more exact. I literally see the formless behind everything. Moving all people, the cars, the trees, the waves, the clouds. And I also sense it moving me. It's like an invisible, super intelligent force that's curled around everything and also is everything. There is literally no difference between being touched by it or another human being or object. Even the wind blowing against the skin is it. And it is so undeniably obvious and fully experiential. On a level unlike ever before. Could not exaggerate, really. Has nothing to do with weed or paranoia. Smoked one tiny joint after a long time. In the past; used to smoke tons. And I never experienced anything like this while high. Not even nearly. Besides, it's happening also when sober. Could the deepened breath be the cause? I knew most of this stuff for a while. But it was never nearly as experiential as it is now. Such a massive shift. The more I synchronize with reality the more I become aware of the mechanics behind it, so to speak. Every tiny detail. I don't know about you, but to me it seems scary AF to be 100% aware of exactly how everything is, in real time, constantly. Why the hell would I want to be aware of how exactly I'm moving that tree? Or adjusting the brightness of the sun? The temperature? The wind? People? Designing it all in real time. It's just to much to be aware of. Leaves no space for anything at all, really. It is true, direct experience of singularity. Experienced by itself. But I suppose I am doing fine, yeah. Just have to express, I guess. In the heart, only one thing burns; Music. All of this is happening for music. Has nothing to do with me, really. I just didn't know I'd need to sacrifice myself for it. Completely. Creating music still seems far away though. It's like God is not done with me just yet. I let go of the wheel long ago. Have nothing. Live like a sage. Music is all that both I and my soul truly desire. I guess that's why death is so terrifying. No music in silence. Thanks again for the suggestions. Much love and respect.

Some ideas I want to address here for getting responds either "Yes, go for it" or "Nah, better be not." To share and tell asian people what I watched is so amazing on Youtube. Translate Leo's video into Chinese language, as a Youtube reporter. Do you allow this, Leo? that people edit your video as their youtube parts? Cannot deep enough to feel what you feel, but share others what I understand? I "Take" a lot from outside, from Leo, from friend, Now I really want to "Give". I don't want to stay in a room and just learning. Those ideas are not my major part of my life, but I still wanna be respectful and carefully to do what I want without any inappropriate act. -----------For example, If I make a Recap video as my first trail Youtube video-------------------- The Answers of The Power Of Asking Questions How does this video benefit me this time? When: Life Stucks> Bullshit "How" > Shit answers > No Working > repeat problems. I run my life so hard, and could not see the result. So many knowledges that made me confused: "where should I start?" Use internet tool for Ego instead of personal growth. I feel like I am wasting my life, and no sure how to do. Nice Inspiration Life depends on how you ask and how you keep asking. No asking right questions > No answers > All Negative Problems The answer is inside of you. or just fucking google it. How do I make this video useful to me? Deeper>Go Deeper>Go Deeper. Get the the deepest questions, and answer it. Allocate all answers into every aspects of my life. Remind App, iPhone, Note, Book, Redo it, in 2020, 2021. just a plan. emm. just saying. sorry. Recap+The answer of truly me. What do I really want? I want money now, I only have 20K RMB in my pocket, Then: I want to buy stuff. enjoy to pay. experience of rich. Then: I feel unsafe sometimes. I dunno how to get money right now. Then: Maybe I don't have this fear, I write this is because I wanna show to people my mind. Then: I wanna more attention. more love, more care. more communication. Then: I feel like I am normal. and this is everyone's answer. Then: I lack of care and love. because of my childhood. Then: I want my beautiful childhood back. fuck off family who only care about themself. Then: I want to show truly me to others bravely. Then: I want to be Brave. How do I keep myself from backsliding? Record how ego works. Write down my thought in my computer files. rough draft. Allocate all records into clear emotional catalogue, eg. Angry, Sad, Useless. Find the answer of each file. Read and open when the same emotional arises. Wait, I find the negative emotions improve my life sometimes, so I am gonna record how each monkey mind can solve relative problems. What Causes me to get in a rut? What motive/excites me? The powerful moral rules and traditional stuff made me stuck in the middle. Then: I am also the person who tell others keep the same. Then: because when you out of your comfort zone, people leave you. Then: fear of Lonely>get in a rut. Then: I could not find any reason that I should be lonely. Then: Cause I don't have big vision/dream. Then: I make a big dream is because to avoid getting boring? Then: Everything is nothingness, why should I keep myself excited? Then: Get in a rut is because I feel the present moment is not valuable. Then: Get in a rut is because I don't think I am valuable.

Earlier today, I was at park with my three year old. I was laying on the grass underneath a tree and was listening to Leo's new episode "What's the Point of Life?" while my kid was running around and playing. When Leo said something like, if you destroy yourself as form and become Godhead, you'll end up exactly here, there's nowhere to go. And then, I suddenly kind of realized why he always say in his episodes that everything is happing in nowhere and in emptiness and it's all imagination. I kind of got the idea that everything really happening in nowhere and its all imagination, but not just an imagination, an imagination that's "REAL", yet imagination. All of what i've been seeing and experiencing my entire life is being imagined in nowhere, in nothingness. I know that Leo has said it countless times, but finally, i kind of starting to see the point of what he was trying to say. Has any one else had this realization?

why it is dangerous ? it depend our concept of dream. I call it a physical dream with rules. but I don't believe in free will, even after full awareness, being full aware is made by nature will, not our will. and all will is the modulation of the source will of ourself. so we don't choose anything, not what we learn, not what we do, not even what we think. I even believe that technology is totaly the product of nature ps : I don't understand your concept of "being a person", not even "maturity" they are all relative point fixed in nothingness "I am, therefore, there is" ps : in the meantime, I never believe all my thoughts story, they are currently my best key for unscripting reality

@Flatworld Crusades Creation is the product. Nothingness is the creator.

@seeking_brilliance Did see. Wanted to take some time with my response. LD brings up questions that are taking me in a different direction, if you know what I mean. Will get back at it asap Not exclusive. All-inclusive. My original post in this thread may be viewed as a backlash haha. Was experiencing more of it the following day/night. Focused on gaining conceptual understanding of crystalline consciousness and putting together the pieces of my shattered reality lol. Being is integrating. @Flatworld Crusades Yes and no. Something, but definitely not some thing. And not an entity. Formlessness. Nothingness.

@pluto Hm. Not sure if we're on the same wave. I can interact while being purely aware; immersed in the now. But then it is not really me who's interacting, if you know what I mean. However; if through this way awareness expands enough so that relativity starts to fade, then there simply is no space and no time left for an interaction to occur. I keep pointing towards the levels and degrees. I found those extremely important. Those determine what is and isn't possible. But nonetheless; all happens within pure awareness. Agree on limitations and the blessings they are. They are a product of infinite intelligence/all knowingness. Thank you and Bless! @purerogue I came to realize the importance of the ego self now more than ever. The ego is the agent of infinity. A filter. A unique one. Without it; absolute nothingness is all there is. And it does not know about itself. Ego is needed. Can be adjusted; aligned. I like to look at it as a piece of advance technology. Just the possibility of it is astonishing. It is not here to explain as much as it is to explore and experience infinity. To be a unique expression of it.

I think way too many people think that they are supposed to create nothing, or to desire nothing. Everything is built out of nothingness so if you don't want to get creative with nothingness, you're like a kid in art class who just sits there and stares at a blank paper without having any fun.

Are you talking absolutely or relatively? If you’re saying that nothingness prefers life purpose to McDonald’s, you’ve deluded yourself.

This "nothingness" term I think misleads people for sure mislead me on path. Yes it is Ephemeral but not in some dark nihilistic way people would think of. Even scientists approach it from conceptual point of view. God avaible to all yet they try to reach it with experiments and equipment lol. I myself was huge fan of quantum physics and science in general heck I studied to become mechanical engineer.

@Truth Addict direct experience without thought is nothingness. You can’t call it anything.

@winterknight Hi, i had this experience today and would like your opinion please: Was looking at my finger and hand and then when i turned it around i thought hey i can't see the back/other side of my hand no matter which way i turn it. Then i thought to myself but that is the nothingness that people keep talking about. Is this what they mean by nothingness in a way, is it a small glimpse or is my mind bs-ing me??

Different meaning of that word for different people: Awakening -> Often used as becoming aware of the dream of thoughts (being conscious) or a temporary enlightenment experience. Self-Realization -> Being conscious of the nothingness aspect of God, which is only half-way. God-Realization -> Being conscious of the infinite nature of God, which is both form and formless. Enlightenment -> Can mean any of the above depending on who's talking, it's just a label after all.

Okay, i have done this and something came to my attention that i would like your opinion on guy's. Was looking at my finger and hand and then when i turned it around i thought hey i can't see the back/otherside of my hand no matter which way i turn it. Then i thought to myself but that is the nothingness that people keep talking about. Is this what they mean by nothingness in a way, is it a small glimpse or is my mind bs-ing me??

"Understanding Nothingness"

@Inliytened1Yup Very much, it is terrifying. That is what reality is. "Nothingness"

Yes! God/Nothingness/Being is a container It includes Everything.

Hehe (the word) I do not know much about Buddhism, except the use of the concept of "no self". The term "nothingness" being used instead of "awareness" (for the absolute), which is what Vedantin's use. ...and some 8 fold noble path, but I don't know much about it. Maybe right speech, right thought or something. Haha So, I would not be much use discussing Buddhism, unfortunately.

Being includes nothingness...