Blissout
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With self inquiry or drugs?
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Of course! Extreme bliss and love for the divine, while tears of joy and happiness and a sense of freedom.
The self is beautiful
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2 minutes ago, blazed said:People dont ask him questions like what's 1+1=?
They ask them philosophical questions, what is life? who am i? what am I? what is existence? what is conciousness? what is my purpose? What should I do? How do I find myself,this or that?
What do you expect the guy to give as an answer???
That's what I am saying, some ask very simple practical questions and there is no answer.
I have no interest in such questions like you stated above, as they are just concepts... the whole point is to experience it from direct experience.
Until few weeks ago I didn't know what the phrase "seeing the self in everything, seeing god in everything" means...
Now from direct experience I am experiencing this what was a mere concept, fantasy/imagination for me.
That's why I keep repeating on this forum that only practice is what will bring results and not listening to hours of conversations with gurus that talk about the absolute truth
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27 minutes ago, blazed said:Also please read what you are writing, In one hand you're saying "I dont like him because he doesnt give me answers" and then you're saying "I am not looking for answers".
Yes, i am not looking for answers.
But I did watch his videos, and when a person asks him a question.. he doesn't give answer to that question.
PS: all the answers are the self.
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35 minutes ago, Shiva said:Not the kind of response you'd expect from someone who practises that much...
Sadhguru rarely gives impractical advice. The only thing he doesn't do is force-feeding you the answers.
I usually find it rather easy to apply a teaching the next day after I watched a video.
If his style doesn't resonate with you, just leave it.
It doesn't make the content less practical or true though. It just means that you couldn't find a way to embody the teaching, but someone else might...
Perhaps because you have too much expectations what one is like when putting many hours a day meditating.
As long as there is an ego this is what it is.
I can be all day in a sea of bliss and love... doesn't mean I am going to be kinder to anyone and not state my true honest opinions.
Let's keep it real.
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6 hours ago, blazed said:You want to be spoon fed and get all the answers directly without doing any of the work, that's your problem.
No one can give you the answers to a spiritual journey you are IT, you are the whole universe as bubble of experience, no one will ever know you as you will know yourself.
Jesus christ your entire life is a unique experience only experienced by you, without you observing there is no universe, only infinity, everything can be every other way.
Relevant video for you by the master himself.
I don't want to do any work? I bet I am practicing more than any of you on this forum.
If that guy cant give any very basic simple practical advice then I really feel sorry for those who turn up to him.
Also I am not looking for any answers. It's pointless and useless as whatever he tells you what the truth is etc... It's just a concept for me... What counts is direct experience.
And how do we get direct experience?
That's right. By the effort of practice.
If one doesn't get the phrase "seeing the self / god / Devine in everything"
With practicing that concept will be revealed through direct experienece .
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2 hours ago, Shiva said:Have you ever wondered why that may be the case? Perhaps it is wise not to hand out all the answers to large groups of people right away.
Yes, because maybe he fails as a teacher and I should listen to someone that actually knows how to respond to a person.
If he can't answer a simple question about practical advice, that's pretty bad...
If ramana can, why can't he?
I don't get it why most people on this forum are looking up to those who are popular on social media, and really they aren't that impressive.
Trust me if you dig a little bit deeper, you will come along beings that are pretty much not known at all to the majority and are liberated as much as ramana and all those other ancients jnani yogis are.
PS: direct questions = direct answers = value. for your own sake avoid people that go around the question or not answering it at all.
Have you thought maybe why all those gurus are so popular on social media?
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Don't like him.
People ask him a question and he doesn't get to the point and directly answer it.
And in the end he really doesn't answer the question like the practioner asked.
Next!
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From the Manonasa: A Spiritual Autobiography by Michael Langford:
There is no truth in the commonly held belief
that if someone claims to have attained
the same enlightenment as the Buddha
that means they have not attained
the same enlightenment as the Buddha.
That is a false belief.The same applies to someone who claims
to have attained Self-Realization
or someone who claims to have attained Manonasa
The same applies to someone who claims to be a Jnani
or someone who claims to be a Jivan-Mukta.
YES a person can have attained Manonasa, Jnana,
Jivanmukta, Self-Realization or Nirvana and say so.
The ego-mind invented the idea that they cannot say so.The Buddha said
he had not attained the final enlightenment
until he had realized the Four Noble Truths.
That means the Buddha just told you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
It is not egotism for the Buddha to tell you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
The buddha is just telling you the truth
when the Buddha tells you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
It is not egotism for the Buddha
to tell you what has happened.
It is true that he had attained the final enlightenment.
In that particular case the Buddha stated it directly.However, if you include all the times
the Buddha implied that he had attained Nirvana,
the Buddha did that hundreds of times.
IT was never egotism any of those hundreds of times.
The Buddha was just telling you the truh.When Annamalai Swami was asked
if he was permanetely established in the Self
Annamalai Swami said Yes.
IT was not egotism for ANnamalai Swami to say Yes.
Annamalai Swami was just telling you the truh.
Annamalai Swami was just stating a fact.When muruganar wrote an entire book telling you about his experiences
and told you in hunderds of different ways
that he had attained the final Realization of the Self,
he was not being egotistical.
He was just telling you the truth.
He was just telling you what happened.
He was just stating the facts.When Lakshmana Swami
described his Self Realization
in the book No Mind I am The Self
it was not egotism.
Lakshmana Swami was just describing what happened.When Papaji wrote about his own enlightenment
in his diary, Papaji was not being egotistical
Papaji was just writing a fact.When nisargadatta Maharaj says
it only took him three years of practice
to realize the Self
that means Nisargadatta Maharaj just told you
he has Realized the Self.Nisargadatta was not being egotistical.
He was just stating a fact.
Nisargadatta is just stating the truth.
Nisargadatta is just telling you what happened.
The same applies to all of the different ways
that Nisargadatta communicated his state
like telling you he has no body,
and the talk is occurring in your world only.When Michael says that in January 2005
he attained Manonasa he is not being egotistical.
he is just telling you the truth.
He is just telling you what happened.
He is just stating a fact.Would you like all those Sages to lie to you
and say that it did not happen,
just because almost every spiritual seeker believes
that those for whom it happened cannot say so?Most people would answer that question no.
Most people would be lying.
Almost every spiritual teaching that has ever existed
in the history of humans has been for the purpose of
preserving the ego Illusion.
Those teachings are not for the purpose of
ending the ego illusion.
That includes almost all of the spiritual teachings that
claim they are for the purpose of ending the ego illusion,
almost all of those teachings also are not really
for the purpose of ending the ego illusion.Almost no human wants to end the ego illusion
even if they lie to themselves and think that they do
want to end the ego illusion. -
From the Manonasa: A Spiritual Autobiography by Michael Langford:
There is no truth in the commonly held belief
that if someone claims to have attained
the same enlightenment as the Buddha
that means they have not attained
the same enlightenment as the Buddha.
That is a false belief.The same applies to someone who claims
to have attained Self-Realization
or someone who claims to have attained Manonasa
The same applies to someone who claims to be a Jnani
or someone who claims to be a Jivan-Mukta.
YES a person can have attained Manonasa, Jnana,
Jivanmukta, Self-Realization or Nirvana and say so.
The ego-mind invented the idea that they cannot say so.The Buddha said
he had not attained the final enlightenment
until he had realized the Four Noble Truths.
That means the Buddha just told you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
It is not egotism for the Buddha to tell you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
The buddha is just telling you the truth
when the Buddha tells you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
It is not egotism for the Buddha
to tell you what has happened.
It is true that he had attained the final enlightenment.
In that particular case the Buddha stated it directly.However, if you include all the times
the Buddha implied that he had attained Nirvana,
the Buddha did that hundreds of times.
IT was never egotism any of those hundreds of times.
The Buddha was just telling you the truh.When Annamalai Swami was asked
if he was permanetely established in the Self
Annamalai Swami said Yes.
IT was not egotism for ANnamalai Swami to say Yes.
Annamalai Swami was just telling you the truh.
Annamalai Swami was just stating a fact.When muruganar wrote an entire book telling you about his experiences
and told you in hunderds of different ways
that he had attained the final Realization of the Self,
he was not being egotistical.
He was just telling you the truth.
He was just telling you what happened.
He was just stating the facts.When Lakshmana Swami
described his Self Realization
in the book No Mind I am The Self
it was not egotism.
Lakshmana Swami was just describing what happened.When Papaji wrote about his own enlightenment
in his diary, Papaji was not being egotistical
Papaji was just writing a fact.When nisargadatta Maharaj says
it only took him three years of practice
to realize the Self
that means Nisargadatta Maharaj just told you
he has Realized the Self.Nisargadatta was not being egotistical.
He was just stating a fact.
Nisargadatta is just stating the truth.
Nisargadatta is just telling you what happened.
The same applies to all of the different ways
that Nisargadatta communicated his state
like telling you he has no body,
and the talk is occurring in your world only.When Michael says that in January 2005
he attained Manonasa he is not being egotistical.
he is just telling you the truth.
He is just telling you what happened.
He is just stating a fact.Would you like all those Sages to lie to you
and say that it did not happen,
just because almost every spiritual seeker believes
that those for whom it happened cannot say so?Most people would answer that question no.
Most people would be lying.
Almost every spiritual teaching that has ever existed
in the history of humans has been for the purpose of
preserving the ego Illusion.
Those teachings are not for the purpose of
ending the ego illusion.
That includes almost all of the spiritual teachings that
claim they are for the purpose of ending the ego illusion,
almost all of those teachings also are not really
for the purpose of ending the ego illusion.Almost no human wants to end the ego illusion
even if they lie to themselves and think that they do
want to end the ego illusion. -
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It's important to stress that you should ignore everything else for favor awareness watching awareness, or the I-feeling/sense.
Mind shouldn't go towards objects, if it does just return to awareness just watching it self.
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Stay tuned and find out for the next exciting episode of Who "wakes Up" In Your Dreams!
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1 hour ago, Speedscarlet said:You sound like someone who failed to achieve enlightenment and is now trying to get people to stop working towards it, that way you'll feel better about yourself. I want to be happy so I'm going to start doing self inquiry to get enlightenment. 'I want to be happy' is true for me.
AKA as neo-advaita.
Persons like that are all there for words play.
Just ignore them.
they don't hold any value for us to progress.
Only one with a strong sense of liberation will success.
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On 11/5/2017 at 10:19 PM, Shin said:Only if you know what to practice.
The number 1 problem in this path is that 99% don't practice what matters, and even if they do, they are still doing it wrong.
Not only that, at some point they just quit.
Or they get an "awakening" experience and then they think that that's it and nothing more is done to progress further.
And it's those people that start to write books, make videos, deluding themselves that they have realized the self.
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2 hours ago, outlandish said:@Nahm The process of enlightenment isn't the BS, it's the classification of self and others as "enlightened" that's the BS. People on this forum bullshiting, with varying degrees of subtlety, about being enlightened, and wondering which person is and isn't enlightened. It's an ego trip and a red herring. There's no flow in that.
If you think you're enlightened, you're not. If you see the buddha on the road, kill him. It's no joke.
@Blissout You don't like the Dalai Lama? OK. You'll never hear Thich Nhat Hanh saying he's enlightened. You'll never hear Shinzen Young saying he's enlightened. And so on. It's not because they're trying to be humble. It's because these are very advanced practitioners and they realize that it's not a thing you can have, it's not a trait or achievement you can ascribe to an individual.
You can experience enlightenment, you can experience the process of liberation, but it's not something you get to take home with you and keep in your trophy case.
Yes because they aren't .
I have very high standards of what self realization is.
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"Have you ever heard the Dalai Lama say he's enlightened? Have you even heard him say he's close to being enlightened? What makes you think you could possibly be further along the path than he is (for example)? Get real. "
That's because Dalai Lama is full of crap and not enlightened, that's why he can't claim he is.
Do more research and you will see that the self realized ones are the ones that meditated all day everyday for years until it occurred to them.
And yes, it's an ego trip until the ego dissolves completely with %10000 practice effort
PS: how would you know where the hell is he on the path? are you just assuming stuff right now?
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Why can't some people accept that perhaps enlightment is some type of neurological "event" going on in the brain? That a set of nerves or whatever gets activated which results in so and so results...
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1 hour ago, Will Bigger said:Not to be disrespectful, but do you have direct experience to back that up?
I don't distrust you; I actually just want to pick your brain.
Yes, I already said it a few topics back, I am experiencing most of the day bliss and love.
You don't have to listen to me though, there are great Yogi's that have used this method all the way to self realization within 3 years usually
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Instead of questioning yourself, a more effective method is just be aware of the I-feeling and I-sense, or awareness continously... that's like 10000 questioning worth per moment
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3 minutes ago, How to be wise said:Not really. If you want it so much and you don't have it, you will feel very depressed.
Wanting enlightenment shows that you're confused. If I ask you to list all the reasons why you want enlightenment, they will all be groundless and false. It's not that you shouldn't work towards enlightenment, it's that you should be detached from the result. If you're attached to the result, you're confused, and that's what Katie is trying to show those people.
You are just assuming stuff right now.
I am not depressed nor confused.
All sages I know who got self realized strived very hard for it.
Enlightenment will happen to you regardless your beliefs.
I always craved and strived for results, and hey guess what? I am getting amazing results.
My ego can continue to blablabla as much as as it wants right now
But because i practice eventually the ego will "die" and so will all my beliefs and desires that inhad before the "dying" moment.
However what is important is that you don't let the mind sabotage while you are praciticing self inquiry.
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15 minutes ago, Charlotte said:@Vitamine Water whenever I 'lose it' I'll try and come back with cncenttati on my breath. Thank you for your lovely advice ? noted.
@Blissout What are you referring to when you speak of the I-feeling?
Thanks for the Michael Langford recommendation, I will check that out. Thank you very much!
The sense of "I", "being", "I-sense", the sense/feeling of what I know as me as awareness.
When I am observing myself I am not observing my physical body or my movements and thoughts. but the sense of "me", the inner awareness sense.
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Your first enlightenment post, you say for all day to be aware of the breath and then you say of this awareness... which is it? did you practice being aware of the breath all day or just awareness being aware of itself? (not objects)
When you say you don't have any mental noise... do you mean thoughts as in images of hot girl undressing in front of you or verbal thoughts such as... "I am going to have to do some shopping"?
I guess you dissolved the "I"?