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From the Manonasa: A Spiritual Autobiography by Michael Langford:

There is no truth in the commonly held belief
that if someone claims to have attained
the same enlightenment as the Buddha
that means they have not attained
the same enlightenment as the Buddha.
That is a false belief.

The same applies to someone who claims
to have attained Self-Realization
or someone who claims to have attained Manonasa
The same applies to someone who claims to be a Jnani
or someone who claims to be a Jivan-Mukta.
YES a person can have attained Manonasa, Jnana,
Jivanmukta, Self-Realization or Nirvana and say so.
The ego-mind invented the idea that they cannot say so.

The Buddha said
he had not attained the final enlightenment
until he had realized the Four Noble Truths.
That means the Buddha just told you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
It is not egotism for the Buddha to tell you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
The buddha is just telling you the truth
when the Buddha tells you
he has attained the final enlightenment.
It is not egotism for the Buddha
to tell you what has happened.
It is true that he had attained the final enlightenment.
In that particular case the Buddha stated it directly.

However, if you include all the times
the Buddha implied that he had attained Nirvana,
the Buddha did that hundreds of times.
IT was never egotism any of those hundreds of times.
The Buddha was just telling you the truh.

When Annamalai Swami was asked
if he was permanetely established in the Self
Annamalai Swami said Yes.
IT was not egotism for ANnamalai Swami to say Yes.
Annamalai Swami was just telling you the truh.
Annamalai Swami was just stating a fact.

When muruganar wrote an entire book telling you about his experiences
and told you in hunderds of different ways
that he had attained the final Realization of the Self,
he was not being egotistical.
He was just telling you the truth.
He was just telling you what happened.
He was just stating the facts.

When Lakshmana Swami
described his Self Realization
in the book No Mind I am The Self
it was not egotism.
Lakshmana Swami was just describing what happened.

When Papaji wrote about his own enlightenment
in his diary, Papaji was not being egotistical
Papaji was just writing a fact.

When nisargadatta Maharaj says
it only took him three years of practice
to realize the Self
that means Nisargadatta Maharaj just told you
he has Realized the Self.

Nisargadatta was not being egotistical.
He was just stating a fact.
Nisargadatta is just stating the truth.
Nisargadatta is just telling you what happened.
The same applies to all of the different ways
that Nisargadatta communicated his state
like telling you he has no body,
and the talk is occurring in your world only.

When Michael says that in January 2005
he attained Manonasa he is not being egotistical.
he is just telling you the truth.
He is just telling you what happened.
He is just stating a fact.

Would you like all those Sages to lie to you
and say that it did not happen,
just because almost every spiritual seeker believes
that those for whom it happened cannot say so?

Most people would answer that question no.
Most people would be lying.
Almost every spiritual teaching that has ever existed
in the history of humans has been for the purpose of
preserving the ego Illusion.
Those teachings are not for the purpose of
ending the ego illusion.
That includes almost all of the spiritual teachings that
claim they are for the purpose of ending the ego illusion,
almost all of those teachings also are not really
for the purpose of ending the ego illusion.

Almost no human wants to end the ego illusion
even if they lie to themselves and think that they do
want to end the ego illusion.

 

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