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O @allislove you are right, low dose is breakthrough possible. I felt like I could not hold on to anything and this was scary. Like if I would go deeper I would not know where is up and down. total delocalization. I think this is what ego loss must be. @Leo Gura You are right. Pushing an experience to get bliss goes wrong. It is like forcing to love someone you dont like. It doesnt work that way. I will make a break for now with 5 meo. When I come back I will be in for a breakthrough experience. Enough of this low dose experimentation.

@Adamq8 Great report. How do you feel now? Did it changed something in you? Was it a good realization for you or do you regret to know the truth?

@allislove I experienced one time bliss with low dose 5 meo. It is possible. I wish I could trigger this experience again. Any advice is welcome. 5 meo for me is a great substance, you just need 30 minutes of time. Easy to consume if plugged and no hangovers. And almost no tolerance at all. Furthermore if Nahm is right, 5 meo low dose could burn some karma if you bring stuff to the surface. i rarely do LSD because you really have 8 hours effects and I dont like this trippy feeling. 5 meo is much more clearer.

@allislove I think smoking is good if you want a breakthrough experience. if you are not ready for a breakthrough and still want to experience value from 5 meo you need to go low dose. And plugging low dose is good to master. Because you cannot overshoot really

@Arthur yeah thanks for your answer. Interesting I am not alone. On this forum there are so many breakthrough reports but low dose or unpleasant reports, even where nothing special happens at all are rare. I think there must be more of these reports, just to give a more realistic perspective on this substance.

@Nahm I would describe the experience like I did something really wrong and there is no return. And it came in waves, stronger and stronger. Pure mental stress.

@Nahm Hm interesting interpretation. But these feelings during 5 meo felt, I could not relate to the feelings with my breakup. I even had no thoughts about the breakup during and after the trip. It just felt like my ego is losing control and fear of the unknown. It is more like a existential fear. Fear of a life changing ego death experience I dont want to experience right now.

@nistake What are your experiences with low dose 5 meo? I gradually question if it is worth the risk. The purpose of 5 meo is to let the ego die as fast as possible. Maybe I quit low dose and come back if I am ready for a full experience where my ego will die in seconds. But this could take years.

@nistake This trip was not to avoid negative feelings but to learn more about this substance. A I said I mostly get no bliss from 5 meo low dose. The real purpose was to experiment with music during the trip ( I never did this before) and how it affects me. Also I was interested how the breakup affects the 5 meo trip. I have better tools to avoid negative feelings (sport, video games, porn), I clearly had no expectation what this trip will offer me, I was just curious. And this was not a bad trip at all. It was very unpleasant, yes. Still I have no regrets and am happy right now I did overcome this challenge.

Hello, I have ADS and plan to do a detoxification with chelat therapy next week with DMPS. Now I read on this site http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml that it could be dangerous. What do you think about it, is the risk worth it?

@Red-White-Light you dont understand Yoga at all. I think your ego is identified with a matcho guy(See your Profile picture) and this contradicts with Yoga.

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@Red-White-Light came your psychosis from psychedelica? Could it be that you were in fear as psychosis happened? Could be just a defense Mechanismen of your ego. If something get too overwhelmed the ego use derealization to cope with reality Solve your fear and derealization goes away

@Thought Art Do you Do Spiritual practice? If so can you elaborate?

@EntheogenTruthSeeker puh congratulations, How did you do it? And one other personal question, are you in a relationship with a girlfriend? I ask me if you can get to heaven if you are still single and suffer from loneliness sometimes

Ok you have 5 meo hcl here. The vendor converted fb 5 meo maybe with lemon juice (alternative to vinegar). In lemon juice there are other substances like shugar which have a lot of weight. Therefore you could really have just plugged 5 mg 5 meo. why not start with 40 mg of your batch and see how you can handle nausea? plugging needs practie and patience Edit: sorry overread that you try 50 mg today before going higher. Ok nice, I will await your report!

Congratulations for plugging successful!! I have the same weight. According to the picture I See this amount of 5 meo is 20 mg hcl 5 mg I get the same effects like you describe. Please dont go up too fast. plugging dose raising is exponentional in its effect. If you find a method against nausea please share Take 10 mg next. This is a whole different level, Dont go up too fast

@khalifa Sounds reasonable to take 5 meo again. There must be energy stuck in your system. These energy block problems are also described in kundalini awakening. For example if your root chacra is fully activated/released and this strong sexual energy rise up your spine. However if there is an energetic blockade in other chacras this energy will cumulate there and that cannot flow correctly anymore. This leads to all problematic symptoms called kundalini syndrom and they really are described like you have right now.

@outlandish @outlandish wonky yes hahaha. No 5 meo trip was wanky so far. Often times nothing happens really but afterglow is still nice. I get almost no insight on low dose. Just interesting how it differs on every dose a little bit.

@outlandish Interesting to hear, thanks! Am I the only one here ?!?!? What else you get from low dose 5 meo dmt (4-10 mg plugged), I sometimes feel wanky like I cannot locate myself.

@outlandish Oh no, AFTER the trip of course you need to hear the music. Not during the trip. Try it out one or two hours after the trip. the effect is noticable for many hours after trip, sometimes even days. At least for me, but I cannot be the only one. This effect is too strong and happens almost every time

@outlandish what do you mean 5 meo is one of the few exceptions? Do you have no musical enhancement ? Maybe this is only on low dose plugged possible. I have this effect so strong the sound of beat of music is like burning in my head (almost too much but still very pleasant)

@Craigxt22 Hey hey, welcome to the 5 Meo plugging round. I experiment with 5 meo dmt low dose (4,5 - 12 mg) hcl for some time. You need good syringe like this https://www.amazon.de/dp/B003ODVE8W/?smid=AI2DVT22UJGSQ&tag=idealode-mp-pk-21&linkCode=asn&creative=6742&camp=1638&creativeASIN=B003ODVE8W&ascsubtag=MFOyQZ9zNvB4sgN2dKWCzA&th=1&psc=1 and this for dosing correctly (better than wage): https://www.reddit.com/r/5MeODMT/comments/6ctodn/advice_on_precise_measurements_of_5meodmt_dosages/ Boofing Technique: you need to stick this syringe only until 4,5 ml mark in your ass. Not like in leos video about plugging (6 mm mark), Stay still after plugged for 1 minute or so and then lie down or sit. Effects are a bit different each time but low dose plugging is nothing to be afraid of. If you can handle heart raising for two minutes which some times can happen, then go for it! During the trip it can feel like good meditation. After effects are very vey good (extreme music enhancement). Please share your report, would be good to hear how it went.

@inFlow "I learned how to work with them, what it does and how to come down easily from them without getting tangled in fear." How Did you Do that? I am still not relaxed during tripping with lsd. Great report by the way, you lucky one?

@outlandish That sounds nice! I will go for it anyway, Right now I will explore this fear a little bit more. Maybe also reducing my ego with more spiritual practices