Harlen Kelly

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  2. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    @GoobyBooby Ivermectin is produced by big pharma, you don't like big pharma, why not be skeptical about Ivermectin as well? 

    I am just trying to understand the brain of a conspiracy theorist. 

    @Opo There is ivermectin for animals and humans, it's just not effective when it comes to combatting the effects of COVID. 

    @Johnny Galt That's what you call anecdotal evidence, I highly doubt you understand the ramifications of relying on anecdotal evidence. 

    If you really wanted, you could find plenty of anecdotal, worthless evidence of water killing people, that doesn't mean you should stop drinking water. 

  4. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Nice strawman.

    It is indeed a strawman but not in your favor, it's a strawman because cutting people's hands is not remotely callous enough compared to killing a person. So there you have it. 

    8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    I would issue an ultimatum like: you got 10 years to repent and get your shit together and rehabilitate yourself into a useful and loving member of society. Here are the resources you need to do that. And if you don't, you're getting lethal injection. It's up to you.

    This is a farcical proposition to say the least, there are countries that have already implemented the most robust rehabilitation process in their prisons successfully, maybe read about what actually has been proven to work instead of making assumptions.  

  6. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    2 hours ago, Tanz said:

    Come on' man if you asked anyone which they would rather be fit, healthy and unvaccinated or obese and vaxed most would rather be the healthy person.  

    This is an illogical, unscientific argument. Asking random people something does not prove the validity of your thesis, doing studies based on millions of data points from millions of people does. 

    This is so basic.

    2 hours ago, Tanz said:

    I hold CNN and other media outlets on a higher standard than some podcasters because I know if they wanted to, their power to change the world is tremendous and yet they waste it all away focusing on problems and creating them.  

    The media will reflect the average level of psychological development of a people, the media here in the US is not very holistic, systemic and advanced because the average American isn't.

    2 hours ago, Tanz said:

    There is no one in media conscious enough to admit they created the problems that exist in society by not being conscious enough.

    This is another unscientific, groundless argument. Can you prove conclusively that ''media'' created the most pertinent issues of today's society? If you don't have any evidence for that, why would you make that argument? 

    2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Telling people to get fit is not a serious policy solution to a pandemic.

    That's how the average joe rogan viewer thinks, and they actually think they are making an intellectually valid point by saying that. If rigorous scientific and autonomous thinking was taught at schools, this wouldn't be such a wide-spread phenomenon. 

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    17 minutes ago, Tanz said:

    The best defense for any sickness and disease is to take good care of yourself and your body.  Even if you take the vaccine you should do those things. 

    Being fit is not a better defense for covid than the vaccine, this has been proven scientifically already. 

    That does not mean that should not exercise, it does not mean that a fit person is as vulnerable as an obese person, it means that being fit in and of it self will not protect you from covid as much as the vaccine will. 

  9. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    18 hours ago, captainamerica said:

    America will. Apart from the US, India and few small countries will give a healthy competition in certain niches. But America will lead by a healthy margin.

    There are many countries that are considerably more developed than the US. 

    The farce right wing circles sold you about american exceptionalism is just that, a farce. There is a very wide gap between the level of education of the average american, and the level of education of the average south korean, german, etc.. 

    18 hours ago, Tim R said:

    Which countries will lead this development? Scandinavian and middle European countries? 

    Canada, germany, sweden, norway, finland, south korea, etc...

     

  11. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    The way joe rogan is spreading misinformation and dull-wittedness is alarmingly insidious. 

    2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

    Stay healthy, lose weight if you're obese, get enough vitamins, sun or vitamin d, zinc, vitamin c, eat healthy, train etc. and that being healthy and having a healthy immune system is probably the best defence for covid.

    The best defense for covid factually speaking, after millions of tests and pew research by people who have dedicated theirs lives to the field of medicine is the vaccine. 

    4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    The reality is that people who watch Rogan are more misinformed than those who watch CNN.

    Pretty much.

  14. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    @Leo Gura Basic decency does not imply you owe or should have a romantic relationship with anybody, that applies to both men and women.  

    42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Just ask her if she feels hurt. And she will say YES.

    So do incels who believe women owe them sex after not getting sex from a woman they are attracted to, does that justify their feelings or belief system? 

    The answer is no. You should strive to reduce emotional damage, but the fact that she feels hurt does not mean he should have a relationship with her. 

    People will have sex and relationships with whoever they deem appropriate, not because they are obligated to, but because they want to.

  15. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    13 minutes ago, TK2021 said:

    This thread is made to analyze right/wrong behavior

    Nothing could further from the truth. 

    In your example, do you think the hypothetical girl owes or is obligated to have sex with the hypothetical guy because he spent a lot of money on a huge dinner? And would it be a ''Wholesome action'' for her to have sex with him in that example?

  16. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    42 minutes ago, TK2021 said:

    Exactly my point. Because other people are selfish, you feel that it is right to be selfish too. And then we end up in a dog-eat-dog world, which will end up self-terminating with our technological development.

    I never made a prescriptive argument nor did I make a suggestion as to how people ought to behave, what I stated is that nobody owes anybody a romantic relationship or sex for that matter. 

    What you wrote doesn't have anything to do with what I have stated. 

    Just to exemplify how damaging the expectation/belief that other people owe you sex or a relationship is, men who believe women owe them sex are referred to as incels, rightfully so. 

    People will have sex and relationships with whoever they deem appropriate, not because they are obligated to, but because they want to.

  18. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

    When deep intimacy is built, especially using spiritual lingo and techniques, and then converted into a ONS, this can be very hurtful.

    Even if deep intimacy was built, that does not imply OP owes her a relationship. That's an indefensible ideological position that stems from the belief that women are doing you a favor by sleeping with you, which is just that, a belief. 

    4 hours ago, somegirl said:

    It is expected that a guy sends follow up message the next morning after sex. Also, he was pursuing her, not other way around.

    That's a made up rule, a very convenient and sneaky rule at that. You can send the message as well.  

  19. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    In that case he used her for sex and was rather an asshole.

    If you look at sex from the point of view of a win - lose paradigm, as if there is only one party that is enjoying and proactively wanting the experience, then your opinion on this issue would make sense, otherwise your opinion is rather unfounded and fallacious. 

    The fact is that nobody owes anybody a relationship or sex for that matter, and that is the implication when you think a person is an ''asshole'' for not having a relationship after sex. That's completely devoid of any sense. 

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    Just now, Tudo said:

    Yeah, here in Brazil she would be considered pretty hot, but not that much,  not the top 0,01% as Leo said.

    Exactly, she would be considered cute in brazil and that's about it. Brazilian dudes would look at white russian chicks and think they are the hottest women on the planet, and western white dudes would look at brazilian/latin women and think they are the hottest women on the planet. 

    It's just perception. 

  21. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    9 hours ago, Intense said:

     

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    She is definitely good looking but chicks with her attributes are very common in countries like Colombia (I highly, highly suggest you go to Colombia, very fun and welcoming country). Maybe you guys find her extra attractive because those physical features are not so common here in the US but in Colombia (and most latin countries for that matter) she would be maybe a bit above average. 

  24. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    @zazen The fact is that you don't owe women a relationship after having sex with them, such an ideological position is as absurd as ''women owe me sex just because I feel attracted to them''. 

    Nevertheless, be clear and straight up with your communication to reduce emotional damage. If you don't plan on having a formal relationship with her, hint at the fact that you are not interested in that from the very beginning. 

    It would be more emotionally beneficial for both of you to part ways. 

  25. Posted · Edited by Harlen Kelly

    1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

    This is why you have to be careful not to listen to women's advice on attraction. The advice they give you is their ideals and fantasies, not the cold hard reality which makes them wet. Regardless of their ideals, they want a man with a strong edge. That's what turns them on. But they will often gaslight you about this by telling you to be more sensitive.

    Exactly, anybody with a fair amount of experience with women understands this.