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Texting Intent
Do you think this girl was right to block me?Requires lots of trial and error. Lots of experience needed.
You can be cute and romantical without being sexual.
Here are two better things you could have texted her:
"You are more adorable than a baby polar bear sliding down a rainbow." (stolen line from Jeffy, but it shows you my point).
"I want to build you a house out of Legos and fill it with exotic baby animals."
Neither of these lines is sexual, but they both clearly tell the girl that you are interested in her romantically and so there will be no friendzone from this.
Friendzone happens when you don't make your intent clear. Besides, this is only the opening shot of the battle. There will be many more lines following it which will also subtly communicate your romantic intent. For example, you can literally tell her something like, "I'm taking you for a picnic in the romantical land of enchanted unicorns. Watch out for the rattlesnakes hiding in the pink mist." If she responds positively to such a text, you know she's interested in fucking you. Your intent is clear and you never come off creepy. If she doesn't respond positively then you know she's not attracted to you and nothing you text her will change that.
That's why I commented. To disabuse you of this time-wasting notion.
You can certainly turn a woman on via texts. I can and have given girls more powerful orgasms via text than past guys ever did with their dicks. But this assumes the girl is attracted to begin with. A very important distinction to learn.
My general rule of thumb is this: avoid explicitly mentioning sex to a girl until you've had sex with her. If you follow this one rule you will save so many blown up sets.
Of course you can be much more edgy and still get the girl. But you needlessly risk blowing it up. Why take that risk? Just to be edgy?
Once you reach the attraction hook-point with a girl, you can get away with some really edgy and sexual stuff. And the hook-point is usually reached within 5 minutes of meeting her face-to-face. But you are not reaching that hook-point via your texts.
If you reach the hook-point, you can politely ask to squeeze a girl's tits, and there's a good chance she will let you. One of the most amazing experiences in game is when you go to the club, hit hook-point within 5 seconds just by looking her in the eyes and smiling, and then politely asking her if you can fondle her tits in front of all her friends, and she giggles and says Yes.
This sort of thing is possible, but it requires really good calibration and understanding of when hook-point has been hit. Hook-point is like the most important thing to getting girls. It's so crucial to be able to recognize. And it's not a function of time because it can happen in 5 seconds with no words exchanged.
When flashy and ballsy game works, it's because the guy reached rapid hook-point with the girl. But foolish newbies think they can do that on a cold girl and it blows up in their face.
When a girl likes you, she will let you get away with murder. But if she has no investment in you at all, you might as well be romancing a brick wall. Don't waste your time romancing brick walls. Look for girls who love you right off the bat. Then sleeping with them will be easy.
The most effective way to get laid is to go to a nightclub, approach every girl and screen immediately for hook-point. Once you find the one that hooks, you immediately screen her for logistics. If the logistics are not optimal, you immediately move on to another girl until you find one that hooks hard and has optimal logistics. Then you pull. Guys who are masters of game have boiled their game down to this. They are very wise to not waste their time.
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Text Game:Keep it bare bone
After the approach - When I have the numberIdeal text game is bare to the bone.
Don't bullshit over text. Use texts to set up dates.
1) "How was your night?"
2) "Let's grab some drinks soon."
3) "What days are you free?"
If she is not agreeing to drinks, your in-person game was not solid enough and nothing you do by text will change that. She is simply not attracted.
60%+ of your numbers will flake. Get used to it.
If you get her number from online, suggest grabbing drinks within 3-4 texts. If she doesn't bite then she's full of shit so just move on to the next girl.
What you must realize is that you don't need any fancy text game to get her to agree to drinks. She's just not serious enough or attracted enough. Next.
You should be getting dozens of numbers so no number matters. Do not fixate on any one number. Numbers are cheap and mean little. A pro will only close 1 in 10 numbers. This is the best case scenario after a decade of game. Noobs will do much worse.
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Text game:Do not self-eject!
After the club - When I have the number pt.2What bullshit is this?
You self-ejected.
DO NOT self-eject!
You keep setting up the date logistics as long as she keeps replying. If it takes 3 weeks to get her ass out, then it take 3 weeks. Meanwhile you game other girls.
Girls are busy creatures. She is not giving you hints, she's just busy doing stupid shit. This is how girls are. They are always busy and you are nobody to her. She has zero investment in you, therefore you have lowest priority in her schedule. Get used to this. It will always be like this until sex.
I've had girls cancel dates on me for stupid reasons like, "I have to organize my kitchen". Then later after sex I tell her, "What the fuck were you thinking? You cancelled a date with me to organize your kitchen? Are you stupid?" And she says, "Oh, yeah, sorry. I was being dumb." That's how it is with most girls you try to date. They act like idiots until after you sleep with them. Then all the sudden they're invested and they act good. That's the power of investment.
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Text game:When woman drag thier feet
After the club - When I have the number pt.2Yes, just ignore whatever happened before and text her afresh like you're setting up a casual date.
As long as she's responsive, she's interested. Be patient and go game other girls while she drags her feet.
You need to have a constant flow of new leads, new numbers, so that you are not invested into any one number. The problem is that you are not getting enough new numbers every week. Which is why you got needy with this girl. If you got 10 new numbers per week you would not care about this girl's feet-dragging. You are investing too much into each girl. They invest nothing in you. This is the crux of the matter.
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text game: the game women play
Date report, need advice pleaseJust text her: "What days are you free?"
Girls plays dumb games all the time. She already played a dumb game on you by not even showing up to your date. She has nearly zero investment in you until sex, so she's not worried about losing you. You're the one worried about losing her. So she has power over you.
You are fundamentally not understanding how investment works for girls.
She does not want to take responsibility for sex. She wants it to be an accident of socialization. That means you gotta play dumb along with her.
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rules of text game
Why do women like guys who are good at texting? Or do they care at all?They don't care about your texting.
If a girl isn't attracted to you in the real world she will not respond to your clever texts. Text game is mostly BS sold to guys by coaches who want money.
If a girl is attracted to you she will tolerate very shitty text game. You'd have to say something awful to screw it up, like being sexually explicit or creepy.
The rules of good text game are simple:
Don't be sexually explicit or vulgar Don't insult or offend her Don't text too much or come off desperate or needy Don't be too gamey or try-hard Don't be too vague and ambiguous so she cannot misinterpret you Basically just be normal, chill, light-hearted, clear, and use texts to set up the date. Don't get too clever with it. That cleverness will backfire.
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text game 1
Messaging game?Text game doesn't really work.
If a girl is not attracted to you, nothing you text her will change her mind.
All you can basically do with text is to find out if she's responsive to you, and ask her for a meet.
You can't use text to manipulate her into sleeping with you. Once you grok this, texting becomes quite simple.
Be ware of PUAs and coaches who try to sell you on the idea that elaborate texting techniques with get you laid.
The best form of text game would be if you had a real social life and you used text to invite girls to real social events, like parties and dinners.
Or... dick pics.
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building confidence with woman
Leo’s advise about dating and sex are mostly aimed towards manYup, that's how it is.
It's called bootstrapping. You gotta create yourself. Same as when you launch a business, you are creating money from scratch. Of course it's hard, but doable.
What you do is you take massive action and you set your vision for 1-3 years down the road. You're not doing game to get laid this month, you're doing it get laid many times 3 years from now. And every small success counts. For example, you got a girl to text you back or agree to a date, that's a big success which builds your confidence. You don't need to sleep with her to see that she likes you.
In fact, since hookpoint is reached within 5 minutes of any interaction, you can basically build a lot of confidence just by reaching hookpoint with girls. Even if they never call you back, at least you know that she liked you enough to have slept with you if only circumstances were better.
There are so many hot girls who I knew would have slept with me if only my skill was a little better or logistics were just a little better. You can use this to build a lot of confidence. Most of game is just struggling against unfavorable logistics, which has nothing to do with your self-worth.
Also, if you lose girls due to lack of skill, that's great news because that means all you need to do is invest more time building skill. So you get motivation from seeing your skills grow.
It doesn't really matter whether you are desperate or not. You just go out and socialize like clockwork. Your desperation may drive a few girls away but not so many that you can't have success. Desperation is not a concrete roadblock, it's just a lack of optimization. If you are so desperate to eat that you burn some food it's okay because you can cook again.
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mystery method and insights
How do I escalate physical touch with a girl?I consider smooth physical escalation a cornerstone of good dating technique. You can get ridiculously good at it and girls love it.
Entire manuals have been written on it. Search for "kino escalation". This is one part of the Mystery Method which was actually quite good and practical.
The rule of thumb is, you start to physically touch her within seconds of meeting her. During the day time physical escalation needs to be very mild. But during night time, like at bars and clubs, it can be very heavy.
It needs to be very natural, which means you need to feel that it's natural for her to feel that it's natural.
Start with non-erotic areas like hand, arm, shoulder. Then move to hug. Then holding hands. Then playing with and rubbing various parts of her body. Make it as casual and playful as possible.
So typically you shake her hand as soon as you meet her. Then you might pat her on the shoulder. Then you might take her hand in your hand and immediately throw it away. Then you might get real close to her body and immediately step back. Then you might take her hand and examine her bracelet, ring, or watch. Then you might tell her to give you a hug. Then you might hold her hand as she walks with you. Then you might put your hands around her waist as you square up to her. Then you might gently run your finger along her jaw line. Then a very short kiss, no tongue. Then you might rub her hips. Then you might pull her into your chest. Then you might squeeze or spank her butt in a playful way. Then you might fondle her tits over her clothes. Then you might breathe on her neck. Then you might gently bite her neck. Then you might run your hands through her hair, gently grabbing and pulling it. And by this point you need to isolate her to a private location for heavy makeout, foreplay, and sex.
The best way to get comfortable doing all this is to go out to rowdy nightclubs and open every girl with physical openers and practice escalating as quickly as possible until she pushes you way. You'll be amazing how far you can get how quickly. Try even going for an instant makeout. All of this builds your comfort level and confidence such that later you can escalate smoothly on any girl in any situation and it will feel natural to her.
She does not have to be drunk for any of this. But obviously if alcohol is involved you can get away with a lot more a lot faster. Mostly she doesn't even need to drink the alcohol. All that's required is that you're in a social space where such things are seen as normal. Whatever you do needs to fit the social situation you're in. At bars and clubs this kind of heavy physicality is totally normal. Obviously not at the mall during day time. There you play it more chill. Although I've met a guy who would hit on women at the mall and have sex with them in that very same mall! LOL! You'll be amazed at what you can get away with when you're smooth and confident.
Obviously for any of this to work she has to show some attraction to you. Although the initial few steps of physical escalation require no attraction. Touching any erotic areas requires a degree of attraction.
The best way to tell if a girl is attracted to you is by looking in her eyes. Does she look into your eyes and hold contact? Does she follow your lead and listen to your words? Then she's attracted. If she's looking away from you a lot, she's not attracted. You need to capture her attention with charm, humor, and confidence.
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Datinng visualization
Often feel like a boy instead of like a manBe more of a leader, socialize more, be with more women, do challenging things in life, start visualizing yourself as a man.
Or, better yet, start visualizing yourself as God. Being a man is overrated
You shouldn't feel like a man, you should feel like a God.
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Dating advice
Dating adviceKissing is not always gonna lead to sex. It's totally fine to kiss and even heavy makeout without sex on the same night.
Realistically many girls will not sleep with you on 1st date. But kissing on a first date is pretty much mandatory in my book if there is chemistry. No girl will have a problem with that.
Of course it's more effective to have sex with her as soon as possible because she has no loyalty or investment in your before sex. She's gonna waste a lot of your time the longer you take to close. But you shouldn't be too pushy or thirsty about it. You have to accept the reality that sex on the first date will often not happen for whatever reasons, many of which could simply be logistical.
You don't need to close just because you kissed a girl. Relax. Just don't make her feel slutty or cheap. That's the key.
There are several reasons:
1) It develops her trust in you as the leader. She needs to get comfortable following your lead. So the more you can lead her the better.
2) It tests how compliant/invested she is in you. If she's not following your lead, that's your clue it's not going well.
3) The more locations you bounce her to, the more she will feel like she has known you for a long time. It makes 1 date feel like 3 dates. Which means things will move along faster. Why waste time doing 3 dates when you can do one date in 3 locations and get the same effect?
4) And of course eventually you have to lead her to the bedroom. When that opportunity arises she has to feel totally comfortable about following you into the bedroom. If you just try to go from a sit down date to your bedroom that is gonna feel too abrupt and awkward and she will likely not follow. You want to make the transitions as smooth and natural as possible so there is no awkwardness.
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Finding the right woman
Serious personal development forces you to be fake or treat people like childrenThere is some suffering from not finding the right woman. But also that suffering is self-created. Most of that suffering comes from buying into the idea that you need a woman.
It much depends on what you want out of life. Obviously if you want a family, if you want socialization, if you are extroverted, then you will suffer more from not having those things. This depends on your personality type.
I am not actively dating, but if it lands in my lap I will not say no.
I don't invest time into pursuing women at this point. This of course means I barely get women. But I might invest time into that in the future. My prioritizes change every year. Right now women are not my priority.
The reason I don't invest time in pursuing women now is because it holds less meaning for me than it used to. It's very obvious to me that no woman will ever satisfy me. I've sort of deconstructed the fantasy/illusion of women. It is clear that they are just cheese in a rat maze.
I still desire them, but I am also disillusioned with them. I am not opposed to relationships but I also don't spend much time dreaming for them.
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None of this is to say you guys should copy me. I encourage you all to go burn through your karma and pursue your natural desires until you exhaust them. Don't try to act like a monk when you are full of unsatisfied desires. Being a monk should come organically, not be forced. Monk mode comes organically later in life once you've played out all the human games.
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Closing advice
I need advice texting a womanAs close to your house or her house as possible. Your house is better because you can control more of the variables, less surprises.
Select a location with multiple locations around, so you can bounce from coffee to park to ice cream, and so on. You want to bounce around between multiple locations. Do not stay in one location for more than 30-60 mins. Keep things light, playful, and moving along. It must feel like an adventure across town. Do not go to a formal sit-down restaurant. Pick more casual and quicker locations so you can freely bounce on. Smaller snacks are better than one large meal in a single place. Outdoor shopping malls and centers are ideal dating locations with many interesting shops.
Ideally try to get her to meet you at your place if possible. Then at the end of the night you'll conveniently be at your place without needing to specifically drive there. But if you text her to drive to your place make sure you tell her than you are not going inside your house, you're leaving immediately for the drinks. So she doesn't think you're asking her to meet you inside your house. That would be red flag for her.
Have something of interest in your house to invite her to look at, like an interesting book, photo-album, something. This will be your excuse to invite her inside. Have something ready to do inside, like a cartoon to watch, an interesting YouTube video, etc. Have some drinks in your fridge. Maybe have a snack ready.
Then again, this girl already clearly wants to sleep with you, so nothing special is required. Just lead properly, don't be weird, and don't be a pussy at the end of the night. You get her on your couch for make-out and more.
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High value man
Is it worth "maximising looks" for game?In this case make yourself into an amazing and exceptional guy who brings a lot of value to the table.
Have a life purpose, have a good career, have your finances in order, be well educated, be spiritual, know how to give her amazing sex, know how to build deep intimacy, be in good shape, have a nice wardrobe, have a cool social circle of friends, have a cool house/condo, have some cool hobbies like travel or photography, be well-groomed.
That above is basically every girl's dream bf/husband.
But really, if you just learn to give her deep emotional sex that will be enough for her to think you're amazing and get addicted to you. Deep emotional sex is the way into her heart. The rest is window-dressing.
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game is play
Realizing memorizing lines is not the way to learn how to talk to girlsOf course lines are wrong. Why? Because lines interfere with your ability to be playful with the girl. Playfulness requires genuine spontaneity.
It is like you're trying to fake laughing or fake partying. You must really laugh and really party. You can't memorize lines to party. That's just fucking moronic.
Well, we all start with lines. But then eventually you learn the key insight that: that whole point of game is to play with the girl.
You stop asking questions when you are truly in a play frame.
You're not a in play frame because you are stuck in your logical mind, afraid of rejection and caring out outcome.
I actually had an Awakening on how to talk to all women. The Awakening was PLAY. I realized that all game is just PLAY.
You are missing the PLAY Awakening and you will suck with women until you have it.
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Hard truth
Being a nice guy versus being an arrogant dickheadGo approach 5000 women and go on dates.
The pain of women rejecting and dumping you for your weakness will make you strong. You are not going to learn this skillset other than through massive pain and rejection.
Get rejected so much you stop caring. Die inside from all your mistakes.
Rapport is built AFTER attraction already happened.
You need to learn basic pickup theory. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Attraction theory is 100% known and proven. Just study it. There is zero mystery to what attracts women.
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To become exciting
How to transform yourself into an exciting person?1) Develop passion, via LP
2) Develop a Love for life, via spirirual awakening to Love
3) Develop charisma
4) Expose yourself to massive experience in socialization
5) Set the intention to become charismatic, passionate, and humorous no matter what, even if you don't know how.
Humor is an attitude more than a technique. Same with passion.
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Comentment
Commitment phobia in men - HELPYes, commitment is emotionally challenging because commitment only makes sense from the POV of an attractive guy with many options if the girl is exceptional. There is little desire to commit to an average girl.
For commitment to make sense she has to be really amazing. But most girls are not that.
Also, commitment means losing years not developing one's game. And the longer a guy wait to development one's game, the harder it becomes. Also the sex and even the relationship will start to get stale after some years unless special measures are taken. So there is a fear that commitment will lead to mediocrity.
Having very high standards makes commitment very challenging. In a sense commitment requires surrendering or lowering one's standards.
From the male POV, sex is a daily requirement but commitment requires something exceptional. Which is why guys tend to have sex but not commit. If a guy waited to only have sex with girls he was willing to commit to, he would be starving like a homeless dog waiting for years for the right girl to come along. And then he would fuck that up with neediness.
So ironically girls are attracted to the guys who are least likely to commit. These are the guys who have so many options that commitment makes little sense. Because a guy who doesn't have all those options will be super needy and repel most girls. You girls are attracted to the most detached guys, and then you wonder why he won't commit.
The guy who would commit to you, you have no interest in sleeping with. He doesn't make you wet or emotional. And your sleeping decisions are purely emotional, not logical. Hence you keep hooking up with guys who won't commit.
The more arousing the guy the less likely he is to commit. That's how this game works. You have to find some sort of balancing point. You can't just chase the highest arousal. You have to make sacrifices. You can't get it all unless you are bringing massive value to the negotiating table.
Sex is a value exchange. And everyone is trying to leech maximum value. Everyone is trying to get something for nothing. And then suffering ensues of course because leeching and theft are self-undermining.
In a sense, when you are dating you are trying to steal sexual value. You aren't doing this consciously, but subconsciously that's exactly what all your arousal and emotions are doing. Your emotions precisely motivate behaviors which steal sexual value. This survival mechanic is so deep that you aren't even aware it's happening. To you it just feels like romance. When you get super attracted to a guy so much that you can't stop daydreaming about him, that's because you know he has more value than you, and that locking him down would be a really good deal for you. It's like walking into a car dealership and seeing your favorite car 50% off. You are giddy with joy at the bargain you just found and you want to pounce on it immediately before someone else does. But of course no quality car is ever 50% off unless there is something seriously wrong with it.
Bottom line: If you want the best car in the dealership you should expect to work hard and pay a lot for it. If you don't want to pay a lot, then expect a mediocre car. Madness is expecting the best car for dirt cheap.
Men's commitment phobia is their emotional way of maximizing sexual value.
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Approaching a walking girl
Daygame infield sessionYou did good.
Yes, keeping a convo going, and keeping it emotional vs logical is the core of game skills. It's not easy to learn that. Takes massive practice.
Also, when you approach a walking girl, you have to approach very assertively, forcing her to stop and commanding her attention. No meek, half-assed, gay approaches. Stop her like you are the police. And be clear about your intent.
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pulling lession
Is going for bathroom lays at the club a viable strategy?You'd have to use the break to stop it. And check that it doesn't have security cameras. This would require a low traffic elevator.
Well, horny mode is mostly good enough. But there are degrees to it. You gotta pump up her state so she's feeling adventurous, slutty, and looking for fun.
You learn it through lots of experience pulling. Keep leading and pulling. You'll get lots of failure and each one will teach you valuable lessons so your future pulls go smoothly. Pulling is an art you can only learn through massive practice. You should have tried to pull that girl to the bathroom just to learn a lesson from its failure. Stop thinking of this in terms of sex and start thinking of it in terms of lessons in pulling. Practice pulling girls even if you think it will fail. It's better to pull and fail than to just wave her goodbye and never see her again.
Do 50 failed pulls and you will learn how to pull.
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trust the process
Is it really important and necessary to sleep with 20 girls?I had zero skill and I'm not built different. It's just massive experience.
Getting failed approaches means nothing after a while. 10 failed approaches is a typical night in pickup.
You just need way more approaches.
It can feel like that. Warm up is important. But you also build up skill which doesn't go away.
It takes thousands of approaches to get good.
Your first 1000 approaches will suck. It's no problem. You will get a tiny bit better from each approach.
You just need way more approaches and to trust the process. You are guaranteed to get better if you do 2000 approaches.
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girls w/friends
Does hitting on girl's (target) friend work?Work for what? Getting the friend?
If you are trying to get the girl, not her friend, then don't hit on her friends. Just be friendly and nice to them.
The best approach for handling friends is to give them a flattering complement, a bit of small talk, then focus back on your girl. Do not get too distracted on her friends. Focus on your goal, which is to run off with the girl you like.
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Intamacy value
question about sexThis is a quality problem.
The intimate kind of sex you offer is gonna be very powerful once you find the right girl who can appreciate it.
Don't fit in, find a girl who fits what you're dishing out. Then magic will happen.
What you're offering is actually something many girls dream about but can never get from a normal guy. So this raises your value.
Probably the #1 complaint girls have about guys is that they aren't intimate enough. Because most guys fear intimacy. Intimacy requires higher development and consciousness than dirty sex does. Although ideally you weave the two together.
