Marxwa Sright

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    I'm inclined to start another thread about the leftist criticisms of Obama's actions and how it depoliticized people. What do you all think? I'll start with this if anyone is interested:

    https://apnews.com/article/5dfbc1aa17701ae219239caad0bfefb2

    I want to clarify that I'm not trying to target Obama specifically, and I have worst things to say about any Republican president, but it's important to be able to have systemic and results oriented criticism on a president that has been mystified as an example of our highest expectations for a politician (and not specifically from Leo, but as a mainstream opinion). I'm not trying to claim some kind of moral high ground, but politics should be  about being able to effect systemic, long lasting results partly by analyzing the failures of this attempts.

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    7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    In general I don't hold the naive view that ousting a "bad guy" will solve much of a country's problems. The bad guy will be replaced by another bad guy.

    Would you agree that Obama is therefore also a bad guy? And I get that from there your argument would be that he's the best bad guy at the time and I would agree.

    I'm just curious about your perception, and many around here, that he's yellow. How did we get Trump as his successor then? Did his 5D chess plays backfired?

    And as a last argument in my effort to see him more critically, as a previous strong Obama supporter. What's up with his actions in opposition to his rhetoric? Please be aware of what he DOES and not only what he SAYS. The president of Hope and Change went on to be a Netflix film producer and used his influence to help nominate Biden in the primary.

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    On 11/18/2020 at 6:46 PM, Leo Gura said:

    Lol

    You have a naive understanding of how politics works. When you are leading a giant nation, all sorts of evils will happen and mistakes will be made.

    Have you considered how many people would have been killed without the drone strikes? What the alternatives to drone strikes are?

    See, when you sit at home and judge others, that's easy. When you are put in charge of the world's largest military and tasked to defend Americans, that's a whole new ballgame. Don't forget, they will replace you with someone more bloodthirsty if you don't make them feel defended.

    The rules for world leaders are not the same rules as middle school. Death is baked into every decision you make at that scale.

    A naive stage Green does not appreciate such politcal complexities. It just wants peace to magically happen. This is the biggest problem with progressives. They act like all this is so easy, and then of course they complain and pout when they can barely win power in a real world election. Much easier to be right in your own head vs making things happen in a world full of selfish devils who want to eat you alive.

    Obama is a butcher compared to a middle school teacher. But that is the wrong comparison.

    You didn't seem to extend that level of nuance and detail into the Stalin thread previously, where everything applies exactly the same.

    Justifying the destruction of the most vulnerable and needy in favor of the strongest and most privileged in the world right now is already culturally accepted and normalized, might be justified by consciousness, as anything, but doesn't seem too productive imo.

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    On 11/10/2020 at 9:45 AM, PurpleTree said:

    What's your definition of propaganda?

    This is the important question. Every news outlet is propaganda in the sense that it has bias in some way, as @PurpleTree elaborated a bit on, the choice of what you decide to report on or not has implications. I still believe that the list from @Thewritersunion is useful because those outlets are known to just lie and spread misinformation.