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  7. Posted

    Just now, Breakingthewall said:

    because it is full of arbitrary categorical statements, invented precise definitions of paradise and all that

     

    8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    @Nabd  I meant, seems obvious that all religions are let's say, metaphors, uncomplete ways of approaching spirituality, but Islam is the most categorical of all: the Koran was written directly by God, it gives precise instructions, etc., so you could say that it is especially bullshit, right? Can this be talked about openly in an Islamic country like Syria? Do intelligent people admit it? 

    Islam is not metaphor.  Its Simple there can only be one objective truth..Which means no matter what anyone believes there has to be 1 reality..So in that way we ask is there a God ?and the answer is yes because the universe and this earth isn't just generated by randomness and out of nothing..do you agree ?

    There must be a designer to create it.

    So then we look at all the major religions :

    And we see Islam..Christianity and hinduism and what not..

    But to keep it simple the quran has been preserved letter to letter for centuries...unlike the Bible. The bible will not be accepted as a reliable source of information.

    other religions they were made by humans..for example let's take buddhism or hinduism or whatsoever.. I once saw a documentary on buddhism and they declared randomly that a human is our god (buddha) like what is this? A killable human that is god? A human that was in the womb of a mother that is god?  god is not a human Or even like the zeus or stuff like that..what is this? A god that can be shown on a picture? A god that needs oxygen to live on the earth? A god that is just mythology? A god that is only here on earth?

    and this applies to Jesus as well ..a  god that has a shape of a human? Wtf is this nonsense? 

     

  9. Posted

    @Nabd

    in US and vietnam war..nixon said kill all viatnames. but if u quote him out of context and say that american always try to kill viatnames..that is not correct.

    i do not know it correctly but in a war  the  quran was revealed something like" kill them all" which applies only to that particular situation . it is forbiden to kill innocent humans

    if u look at history ..christianity killed 200 million in 2000 years... atheism killed 80 million in 100 years.. and islam killed 30 million in 1400 years. islam killed a lot less than christianity.christians genocided native americans..started world war 1 and ..even starving and killing 35 million indians. and so on.

  11. Posted

    2 hours ago, flowboy said:

    In my opinion no, that idea comes from times / developmental stages where people can't think further than "this is the way we do things, all the other tribes are doing it wrong". People in stage blue think their morality is the objective morality, because that's what fits with their stage. And we all have this wired in us, which is why, I think, philosophers try so hard, and fail, to define an objective morality. Which I think is a fool's errand

    But how do you explain the innate sense of morality that we all have ? We all know deep down that stealing and raping and murdering is wrong ...from where do we have this instinctal sense of objective morality ? 

     

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    I just found a medium-sized  spider hanging out in my bathroom...the first thought that came to my mind is to kill it immediately..but idk..out of the blue something weird happened..it just hit me that killing it is evil ..why should I kill it ? Who am I to decide the end of a living creature's life? 

    Then I started questioning stuff like eating meat and animal products. Beheading a goat or a chicken to ear from their flesh ..

    The main point is that from where should I have my Morals? Who decides right and wrong ? Of course WE do . And of course we are biased to ourselves and we put our own survival above other animals' survival. 

    The Religious people get their morality from their religion..from their holy books basically (and that's what made me interested in Islam because I needed a guidance in my life ..that's something I'm lacking..I need a sense of purpose..ethics and moral compass ).

    But I'm asking where Do secular people get their Morals from ? How to decide what is ethical and what's not without adhering to a bearded old man in the sky who will fuck us in the ass in the afterlife If we fuck up (let me put it this way ?).

  14. Posted

    @Gabith 

    24 minutes ago, jimwell said:

    SELF-LOVE AND STRONG WILL

     

    13 minutes ago, Soul Flight said:

    It is duality. The yin Yang symbol. The black and white fish going around. We must have ugliness to have beauty. We need the negative to illuminate the positive. You are focusing on suffering. It is all perspective. Choose to focus on joy. Or choose to see the bittersweet play between suffering and joy. All things are balanced in the duality. 

    Hang in there. You are not alone. Create joy. Ease other’s suffering. :)

     

    36 minutes ago, vibv said:

    @Gabith This comes from a place of Love: Please go see a therapist. You will possibly also be prescribed something that can help with those encompassing feelings of doom and anxiety and helps you develop some positive feelings when you can't produce them yourself right now.
    If you do, my perspective on that is this: You don't have to take it forever, but it can really help coming out of a really rough spot. I speak from experience.

    If you don't have the strength right now, share this with a close friend or relative and ask for help. There's absolutely nothing weak or wrong with that.

    I can promise you that it CAN and WILL get better – again, speaking from personal experience. There is light at the end of the tunnel. But sometimes you can't do it alone.

    This ^^^^^

  15. Posted

    12 minutes ago, Gabith said:

    But then what? The next day, I returned to the dream; it's impossible to live with that awareness in our current society

    It is possible.  There are plenty of people who have discovered that they are the whole universe and they still eat..shit . Piss ..have jobs ..dreams .etc

    To really get the conversation down to earth ..you need to stop spinning stories about what God is . Notice that you don't actually know for certain the things you mentioned like reincarnation. 

    I think you need help from a therapist. 

     

    Maybe @flowboy can help you .

     

  16. Posted

    3 minutes ago, Gabith said:

    That's the main problem.

    I cannot bear this. Each time I see someone suffering, I know it's me. 
    Every child, every person is me and there's so much suffering in this world, how can you face this ? 

    exactly. God is a weird motherfucker.  Why do you think humans struggle so much with understanding God?  In fact he cannot be understood.  That's what makes God God. You can understand anything except God.  Investigate reality as deep as you can.. And once you hit a point where your mind collapses and your logic give up.. You've reached God.. You've reached to nowhere and everywhere. 

  20. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    Where are your virtues?

    None at all.

    I jusr experiment with different worldviews and I change them more than I change My clothes..

    One day I'm a solipsist..the other day I'm a materialist..Next day I'm a Nihilist etc.

    All virtues and morality is a house of cards . If you think about it .

    Nothing is stopping you from killing another human being other than some chemical soup in your brain's cortex.  

  23. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    I don't do any substances because I like the mental fortitude that comes with extreme stability. How is that for stoicism?

    Your take on stoicism sounds more like "YOLO" than anything the Ancient Greeks would've come up with :P 

     

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/yolo

    Its not YOLO. Its something more radical than that . 

    First ..I don't know if this life is the only life I will ever live . That seems highly unlikely. 

    I believe that after I die ..I will be born again . I'm eternal. Isn't that how I came into existence?  I just  magically ?  popped out of nowhere?  What makes you think it won't happen again? 

    Secondly..I'm not saying go destroy your life .I'm saying grow some balls between your legs and do extreme shit .it's gonna make you immune to fear .

    @Razard86 how r u bro ? U good ?