Spiral Wizard

@Leo Gura I‘m curious! What changed in or has been added to your understanding since this blog post about your Rock Bottom trip?: https://www.actualized.org/insights/hitting-rock-bottom How do you view those insights from your current understanding? I honestly really resonate with what you say here. It sounds more true than some of your more recent insights about solipsism & God realization, etc. however I’m wondering if they conflict or integrate and build on top of each other. First off, was that your actual authentic experience or have you (at least partially) used/regurgitated words from the teachings you’ve consumed? Some of it sounds very cliche or like what a subconscious mind would spit out that has consumed a lot of spiritual content. Anyway, I was surprised to discover this blog post because the impression I got from your more recent videos/posts on God & Awakening almost seem to disagree with what is said there. Is that the case (would you say those insights are false) or are there just a bigger truth that you have realized now which include the ‘lesser’ truth that is described in the blog post above? The reason why your more recent videos/post seem to disagree is because what you say in the blog post is basically what people like Frank Yang say and I remember your disagreement with his insights.

@Leo Gura could you comment on this? I’m actually curious!

Touché

“God is a hairy humanoid soaking in a bathtub, floating alone in a bubble of absolute and eternal solipsism, imagining a world around itself in all directions.” https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-030 @Leo Gura how accurate is this to your imagination? PS.: created with Midjourney.

In Person Events.

I thought you could validate it using muscle testing, no?

@Leo Gura I appreciate your passion for God but this behavior is neither wise nor loving. It’s embarrassing. Clean up your human bullshit.

Sounds like 5th dimension to me haha Congrats & Enjoy buddy!

Beautiful, thank you! Could you share more about your spiritual path and what it took (practically) to get to this realization? Any other advice or recommendations for the path?

Holy fuck, this AI is amazing!! It’s more creative than I am lol

I’m curious to understand this in more depth: How is special treatment or skipping the line at a club hurting my development?

I was wondering how to differentiate between getting stuck in a loop of hedonism (indulging in shallow pleasure) vs doing that consciously to burn through karma? “What you focus on grows” is a popular quote. How do I know that there will come a point where the desire or spiral dynamics stage is exhausted? The same question applies to selfishness or hypocrisy. I can be very conscious of my selfishness but thoroughly enjoy it. I think this non-judgmental/ accepting/ self-loving approach is much more effective than guilt tripping yourself but then again, if I keep doing it, it’s also feeding the behavior or neuronal connection. I guess introspection and intellectual integrity will tell you when enough is enough?

@Leo Gura I think I can see your pubic hair lol It‘s also kind of unsettling to read this random love letter to your cat. I mean, don’t get me wrong, you are free to post whatever you want. It just seems a little strange... I hope you are not going crazy ?

Damn that‘d be a deep teaching haha

@undeather could you please elaborate on that? This has always been a point of confusion for me. I agree that a teacher who embodies his teachings is much more powerful because he has true wisdom and understands many more nuances than someone who has not mastered their teachings. But if the student is able to differentiate between message and messenger it is possible to learn from anyone. You just have to keep in mind that the less mastery/embodiment the teacher has the more potential traps/corruption/foolishness/falsehood/lack of nuance/half truths/errors/etc. his teachings will entail.

Reminds me of…

In this video Sadhguru explaines what I suspected. Increasing exuberance is a separate thing from enlightenment.

Edit: maybe better title: What’s the difference between enlightened masters? To me, Sadhguru seems to have a completely different level of radiance and vibrancy than Shinzen Young. What makes the difference? Is it the level of kundalini awakening? I don’t believe it’s just charisma. @GreenWoods talked a lot about different dimensions of consciousness. Maybe it has something to do with that? Edit: My inquire does not aim to judge anyone. Both Shinzen & Sadhguru are incredible and worth studying deeply. This thread is not necessary about them specifically. I’m genuinely curious about understanding how different paths lead to different results. Because there certainly is a difference between different traditions and enlightened masters.

EXACTLY ? Well, this extreme (unhealthy?) use of psychedelics had to back fire at some point… Leo‘s teachings are a blessing. He has so much potential! It would be such a joy to see him actualize it one day. I can see the glory! @Leo Gura get your shit together

Attached you can see an except out of Sadhguru‘s book “Death: An Inside Story”. He claims stuff that’s pretty far out there. I’m open to it but what do you think? Realistically, is there a way to verify this for yourself?

In this video Shinzen mentions that his direct day to day experience ranges from a highly enlightened state to a state that someone who has never meditated is in. Keep in mind, this is 12 years ago. I don’t know how it’s right now but in a video from 3 years ago he basically said the same. I definitely admire his indifference towards this fluctuation but I’ve also heard other teachers say that there is a stage of enlightenment beyond that where there is no more fluctuation, just firmly rooted in the ground of enlightenment 24/7. What do you think?

That’s an interesting distinction! Could you elaborate? How would you define the different ‘roles’?

I agree. It’s unnecessary, inefficient, and contra productive. @ EVERYONE Please do not post if you are not in a state of neutrality, acceptance or love. I’d appreciate kind and compassionate communication. Thank you! ❤️

@Raptorsin7 I’m intrigued, where can I learn more?

Lmao that would be a wet dream. Imagine millions of people watching enlightened masters go into samadhi for 2 weeks straight