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5 minutes ago, Shin said:That's assuming you're a human being to begin with though
I am Spacious Presence, wearing the mask of a person. No need to reject the mask.
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@Shin I don't think either side here will be convinced by the opposing viewpoint so debate is pretty pointless.
Edit: Removed part of post to avoid debate.
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22 minutes ago, 73809 said:Why not just say “be aware”? What’s the need for self reference?
Good point. If you are just aware, awareness will automatically be aware of itself. It's the same thing at the end of the day. Whatever floats your boat.
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6 hours ago, Nahm said:I’ve no faith in it, just in you. It would be funny for anyone to be skeptical of there being stars, when they could check & see, and live under so much beauty.
I suspect everything is predetermined (beginning with the 'Big Bang' and continuing to expand into the present moment) and so I doubt that anything I could ever think could possibly alter what is destined to unfold.
Having said that, I very much appreciate your compassionate nature and desire to help others.
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54 minutes ago, Shin said:Yeah, the "I'm not even moving even if the body moves" starts to be more and more present.
It's kind of funny, it's like you're a black hole and everything else is just sucked in you.
That's cool man. I've never really felt like a black hole but everyone's experience is different. Maybe you've gone more deeply into it than I have.
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@Preety_India Firstly, as @Ananta said, looks fade. Even the most beautiful people lose their beauty sooner or later. So best not to worry too much about physical appearances.
Secondly, when you meet the right person who appreciates you, it won't matter what anyone else says.
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@Nahm I remain skeptical but I admire your faith in it.
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11 minutes ago, Nahm said:Yes, only awareness is aware of awareness. Not something the mind can ever know.
P.S. I'm still waiting for my dream girl to manifest. How long does this LOA thing take to work?
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On 11/21/2020 at 1:24 PM, VeganAwake said:Always enjoyed this lady's videos. She recently passed sadly.
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For those who are struggling with being aware of being aware and are just sick of it, I recommend an equally effective alternative:
Allow everything to be as it is.
Sit down in a comfortable position, and let go of all resistance in this moment. Simply allow everything to be as it is. This method is just as effective as being aware of being aware, and may actually be easier for some.
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25 minutes ago, Guru Fat Bastard said:Another way Spira put it is to ask "Am I Aware". The question,and the ridiculously obvious answer, leads directly to Being Aware of Being Aware.
I personally never found that question helpful. If you don't know the experience of being aware, then asking "Am I aware?" won't help you. You won't know what to look for. However, once you are able to identify the experience of being aware (i.e. noticing the fact that you are experiencing anything at all), then a question like "Am I aware?" might be more useful then. This is just based on my experience. Others may have different experiences with this question.
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The difficult part is in recognizing the experience of being aware (which is actually quite easy and obvious). In the beginning we tend to think it's some special kind of state, when in fact it's just the ordinary basic experience we all have in each moment.
I find that it's closely linked with the visual experience. Notice that you are having a visual experience at all. This is noticing that you are experiencing anything at all (a.k.a. being aware of being aware). It's so simple! And yet I completely understand the struggles people have with it as I struggled with it myself for nine months until a fellow seeker came along and pointed me in the right direction.
I'll repeat the steps for those who are interested:
1. Relax the attention.
2. Notice the fact that you are experiencing anything at all.
And I'll add a third step:
3. Wait patiently for the peace to emerge.
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5 minutes ago, 73809 said:For some reason I find being aware of being aware to be challenging to do. It’s like a strange loop,
As Rupert Spira has said, it's actually easier than breathing. It's so obvious and in our face that we overlook it.
I don't want to be preachy but I'll just share two instructions that may help you:
1. Relax the attention.
2. Notice the fact that you are experiencing anything at all.
If you follow these two steps, and wait patiently for the bliss to emerge, you won't be disappointed.
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3 minutes ago, Shin said:The former make the later a possibility
Yes I guess you could say the ego dies a temporary death each time one rests in the experience of being aware of being aware. But in my case it always seems to resurrect itself once meditation ends.
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3 hours ago, Shin said:Rest in peace
As I see it this can be interpreted two ways: literally resting in the experience of peace, or death of the ego. The latter hasn't happened here yet.
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Rupert Spira talks about this all the time, but it really can't be overemphasized: in being aware of being aware, it is important to relax the attention.
Normally, our attention is always moving outward toward externals including thoughts and feelings. Well, one of the major keys in being aware of being aware is allowing that attention to rest rather than moving outward towards objects. Allow your attention to sink inwards and rest within itself. When your attention is fully at rest, it becomes quite easy to be aware of being aware.
I should also mention, don't expect the peace or bliss of your true nature to be experienced immediately. It takes time to emerge. Because of this, people tend to get discouraged and mistakenly believe that they aren't being aware of being aware properly. In reality, they are probably doing it correctly but are simply losing patience with the process before the bliss has been given a chance to reveal itself. The peace emerges gradually over time. Patience is required here.
I wish you all luck in being aware of being aware. Though, if you can allow your attention to relax, you won't need any luck at all.
Peace, and much love to you all.
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17 hours ago, Javfly33 said:@Beginner Mind Sorry, where is this peace? I must have lost it somewhere LOL.
The peace I'm referring to is found in the relinquishment of resistance to life, also known as 'surrender'.
I also recommend being aware of being aware, but I would say surrender is the best spiritual practice because the effects can be experienced in your ordinary daily life, not just in meditation.
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Stillness Speaks by Eckhart Tolle.
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@wesyasz Firstly, relax your body and relax your attention. This is an important step and I should've included it in my opening post.
It might be helpful for you to realize that you are having a visual experience right now. You are staring at a computer screen. Now, rather than just being aware of the computer screen, notice instead that you are having a visual experience at all. Become aware of the totality of your visual experience. This is noticing that you are experiencing anything at all (being aware of being aware).
I hope that helps. If not, let me know and I'll try to think of different phrasing.
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@Shin I know what you mean, though I find it's much easier to be aware of being aware when sitting in meditation, easier to go more deeply into the peace.
in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Posted · Edited by Beginner Mind
Around the 4:30 mark Alan Watts explains how the Satori experience reveals that life is perfect, or as he puts it: "The way everything is in this universe and at this moment is absolutely RIGHT, and that's almost putting it too weakly."
Powerful stuff from a legendary teacher!