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7 hours ago, Key Elements said:If it's not:
God (No-self, nothingness, no external environment, no embodiment) -->
Everythingness (You literally become everything.) -->
Godhead (Singularity, Riding the Ox Backwards) -->
To love realm -->
embodiment in mind, body, world, universe...
then, what is it? It will just be more, and more, and more, and more of everything, of absolute infinity within God. In everythingness (infinity), any part of it, the stories do not end. In other words, how long do you want the stories? It's time to find an effective way to point to God after becoming it. That's the journey. Before that, it's pursuing a profound life purpose. Not so easy to do these things, is it?
The next step is to drop the concepts all together, too much conceptualization is a huge problem on this forum, and the fact that the owner + mods are contributing to it, isn't helping it.
I been saying this for years, and things don't seem to change.
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11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:Like I said, these are nuanced distinctions.
Of course from the ultimate absolute level nothing can be distinct at all, at which point soul merges into the godhead.
10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:The whole point of the notion of a soul is that it persists between lifetimes as an intermediate structure between the human self and the Godhead.
If soul is just ego, the notion of soul isn't needed at all. The point is in its being prior to ego.
How about dropping those mental concepts? What is the point of continuing to talk about the "ultimate absolute level", "absolute", "relative", etc?
And you still didn't get my point or what I meant by "ego" here. You can replace the word "soul" with "human", and it still still be ego - as long as person makes an identity out of it (majority do).
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12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:No, soul is not the same as ego.
These are naunced distinctions which require much spiritual experience to make.
I wouldn't make too big of a deal about it. Just shoot for transcending all dualities.
Ego = identification with mind, an illusion of separate self. Soul becomes another identity that the mind attaches itself to. To majority of people in this world, a soul implies a separate self, it is one of many things they identify as.
This is one of the reasons why Buddha rejected the concept of the soul.
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@Leo Gura Why not be more straight forward about it? When people refer to "individual soul", they refer to their ego, it's that simple. In other words, because there is no self, there is also no individual soul.
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15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:Of course, after the successful manipulation in 2016, now every foreign government will try the same. It's open season. Our inaction and denial only invites further manipulation.
It's clear to everyone now that if Trump is helped by foreign manipulation, Trump himself will welcome it and protect the manipulators because all he cares about is winning at any cost. This is the essence of treason.
Russia has a special position though because of Trump's finacial ties with Russian oligarchs. They underwrote his loans and enabled his whole fake career. China is not as well situated. And Russians have worldclass hackers with zero ethical standards.
You are very naive to think that interfering in elections is something new. US has been doing for many years, yet when someone interferes into their's, they call foul and play the victim?
This is the reason why majority of the world doesn't like US and Americans wonder why lol
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2 hours ago, Key Elements said:Once you get into a relationship, it's a test of your nature, your inner balance. That's the best I could describe it. Are you both able to adjust in a balanced kind of way? Both have to be willing to adjust. There was a friend of mine I knew since high school. She told me her mom left her dad. I was wondering, "why?" They were married for 30+ years with three children. But then, I found out that the mom had a passive aggressive type of personality. Nothing pleases her in the family. She was always complaining no matter what anyone did, even though she had smart kids and a husband who is soft spoken and helped out around the house. He literally raised the kids all by himself and did all the housework, whatever he can. They were both university professors of the same university. He was the president, and she was the dean.
To me, I think she allowed her ego to get the best of her. She never addressed her personality. She had everything going for her. She made all the major decisions. She made no attempts to stop herself from being passive aggressive. There's a saying, "don't make a moutain out of a molehill." In this case, the woman was out of balance. He chose to be with someone who eventually got out of balance.
There is another way of looking at it. Why was she "passive aggressive"? Did the husband change and became a different man that he was?
Quite possibly he was a leader and on his purpose in the beginning, then lost it - and after a lot of "testing", she gave up.
They also had a mismatch of roles - he took on the traditional role of a mother - who normally would be raising the kids and doing the housework.
To me, this is a sign of failed leadership on a man, and having lost touch with his woman.
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I am surprised that one of you get the simple truth here:
The so called "nice" guys, are not actually nice. They engage in a "nice" behavior out of neediness - they do it as a way to manipulate them into getting what they want from women. In other words, they are not being congruent, grounded, or real. Women see right through it and it turns them off. The reason why they are attracted to so called "bad boys" is not because they are "bad", but because they have the qualities that they desire (congruent, authentic, grounded, etc).
There is no need to be "nice", period. This does not mean that you have to be an asshole, or a mean person.
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1 hour ago, whoareyou said:Comparing LOC on a sale? Are you guys nuts?
Why is this thread not locked? This is beyond stupid and silly, I would have never thought this content would pop on this forum, you guys should know better.
I miss typed the word, I meant to write scale LOL.
@LfcCharlie4 And so what if that book is on Leo's book list? What makes you blindly believe it's a good book just because Leo has recommended it?
I have gone through that phase, so in short - yes it is silly and stupid to compare LOC on a scale level, what's even more silly is author(s) of that book assigning so called "masters" different LOC.
If you want the truth, you will drop the ego games, and comparison - you will also eventually have to drop the seeking.
When you reach this stage, one day you will remember what I said (I don't expect you to understand this now).
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Comparing LOC on a sale? Are you guys nuts?
Why is this thread not locked? This is beyond stupid and silly, I would have never thought this content would pop on this forum, you guys should know better.
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I been saying this for the past few years and will say it again:
Leo is trapped in chasing insights, intellectually trying to understand "reality".
He thinks that he is getting deeper and deeper - while he is actually not getting anywhere, it's an illusion and a trap of the ego identity that he created for himself. In other words, he has a blind spot which would be very hard to see and to admit - it would mean that he wasted a lot of time and would invalidate a lot of his teachings.
When he booted Winterknight from the forum, he called his approach too "simplistic" and "reductionistic" - which is not surprising to see and where imo Leo is clearly wrong. As many have noted, an actual "awake" teacher would not have booted another teacher like that - but at least his opened many people's eyes who have previously have not seen these things.
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14 hours ago, Dimi said:Name one thing that isn't relative
You missed the point of my post.
You can say everything is "relative", but there is still a difference when it comes to practical purposes of your life.
In this dream so to speak - there is still a difference between your dog and the ideas that I mentioned above.
I still see that so many of you are still mentally masturbating too much.
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22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:@Beginner Mind Who are you communicating with right now?
You are conflating absolute and relative matters.
No-self is a facet of the Absolute.
"Other" is a relative construction.
Are you going to say that the idea of demons and angels is also just a relative construction?
What about Jesus being the savior that actually died for your sins?
The list can go on.
There is a big difference between waking up and seeing the your dog which is the other, and actual BS that is pure delusion (relatively to this dream)
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On 11/11/2019 at 5:53 PM, Beginner Mind said:@Dimi Right, but according to the Medium they are communicating with an individual spirit... Which, according to the non-dual masters, does not exist.
You are right, and thus most "mediums" are thus caught up in the illusion of self and other. People that are more conscious don't bother to get involved in that stuff.
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11 hours ago, Apparition of Jack said:Also let's not forget there's higher-consciousness porn and lower-consciousness porn, as with anything.
That's exactly what the addict to porn would say. There is no such thing as "high consciousness porn"
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21 minutes ago, Bridge to Infinity said:Steve Jobs was very alpha and he did more than what Bill Gates did IMO. Edison was very alpha and he did a whole lot. Einstein, very alpha. Richard Feynman. Its not black and white, I don't think being beta correlates with inventiveness indefinitely, sure you could make the claim that people that tend to be much more withdrawn are people that use their minds more, and that withdrawnness could be called beta. So sure on average people that are not loud, are withdrawn have a tendency to be more imaginative in their thinking and therefore inventive.
It is IMO wrong to assume that being withdrawn and beta are one and the same thing. Fundamentally being beta is the playing into your fear and not having courage to confront your fears head on, this is different than withdrawnness, but it playing into your fear tends to manifest as withdrawnness.
Being beta is being fearful, it is living with low self esteem.
I couldn't agree more
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42 minutes ago, Lento said:And for God's sake, is two hours so much wasted time? The whole thing was two and a half hours.
Not true, but please ignore this, and help me get laid ?
Two hours talking to her platonically and not being sexual is a lot of wasted time.
No, it's not because of her past, it's because of YOU - this is the hard truth. Instead of using excuses, actually start working on yourself.
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Doing nofap and semen retention is one of the best decisions that a man will make in his life.
Of course this is a threat to the porn industry. Porn industry is built on devilry and the unconsciousness of the masses.
LEO should really make an episode on nofap, semen retention, porn industry, etc.
It's so crazy for me to see so many self-actualizers on here being so ignorant on this subject.
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There is nothing healthy about porn. Watching porn is like eating at Mcdonalds.
Quit porn cold turkey and get on to semen retention.
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You are not being sexual at all. In fact, you are wasting a lot of time on useless chatter that usually just friends do. You are also unable to read the non-verbal communication. You probably got friend zoned.
If your goal is to just have sex, there is no need to waste this much time. You also over invested into her emotionally/mentally - you consider her far more important than she actually is to you.
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1 hour ago, Shiva said:I see Leo as more of a learned alpha. He had to put in a lot of work doing pick up, studying social interactions, leadership, etc. To some other people these things come natural.
However, at the end of the day, alpha and beta are just labels. It's all relative to one's perspective and these terms mean different things to different people.
It doesn't matter weather he is a "learned" alpha or not - at the end of the day he is alpha.
My point, is that your definitions are clearly outdated, and this may mislead people on here.
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On 11/5/2019 at 2:40 PM, Shiva said:@BlessedLion Your description of alpha is quite accurate IMO
Whether you are Alpha or not depends to a large extent on your hormones. It's not so much a choice. If you have genetically low testosterone, for example, there's no way you will become Alpha. On the other hand, someone with very high testosterone is much more likely to develop the tendencies you described above.
But that alright. You do not need to be Alpha. Being Alpha has its own problems. Great minds, inventors, sages usually tend to be much more Beta.
It's often the Betas who actually rule the world, they just don't make as much noise as the Alphas. This is because as we make technological progress, your ability to think becomes more important than who can drum louder on his chest.
Bill Gates is a good example of a famous Beta.
No, his description of "alpha" is not accurate smh.
You can find many examples of alpha with "high consciousness" and "low consciousness", and same for betas.
Being alpha doesn't mean being a prick/asshole, etc.
To me, being alpha means being a leader, being on your purpose, being grounded, having the ability to respond in any given situation, etc.
In this day and age, there are different solutions available if your testosterone is very low. TRT is one of them and works very well.
To me, LEO is actually an alpha. He is nowhere close to a beta.
How did you even become a mod here?
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Read the book "no more mr nice guy", and it will all be clear.
In short, you are not being sexual enough within your interactions. If you don't want women to see you as a friend, but as a potential mate, work on becoming a dominant, and sexual man.
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On 6/25/2019 at 1:12 AM, see_on_see said:Of course not. In the same way I haven't tried not eating or not sleeping. I don't feel a need to suffer pointlessly.
But I have observed a lot of NoFappers and behind most of them there's usually some psychological issues that led them to start doing it, thinking that it would magically solve their problems with women, motivation, depression and so on. Sometimes it might seem to work because they do get some negative motivation from it, which might produce some results to some extent. But it's a false association and the root problem is still there in the background. And it's totally unnecessary in the first place. Of course it's much easier to stop fapping or whatever, than doing some real inner work.
It's very easy to imagine results and attribute them to NoFap. But very often I've seen guys bragging about their NoFap day count and supposed results, meanwhile they haven't seen a woman in years, they're bitter, and all their core psychological issues are still there.
Of course these are just my observations, as someone who faps in moderation and is still doing good. It's up to you. My only point is, you could get all the benefits of NoFap while still fapping moderately and avoiding a huge amount of suffering that comes from repressing a totally natural urge. By just addressing the actual root psychological issues responsible for the problems you're needlessly trying to fix with NoFap.
You are full of shit, and I can't believe even mods fell for your garbage.
How can you say that something doesn't work, when you haven't tried it?
I have personally tried both, fapping and semen retention, and I can tell you that the benefits that the people are talking about are REAL.
Yes I tested it and verified it for myself more than once, and I am currently on semen retention. No, I don't count the days or do any of that silly stuff, it became part of my lifestyle.
No, I didn't start doing it because of "depression". And no, deep inner work and semen retention are not mutually exclusive, in FACT they go hand in hand. The more consciousness work that I have done, the more the semen retention made sense.
This is a great Youtube channel that explains it very well:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DZ17jMfpKmi7xtaipPIvA/videos
Taoists actually know what they talking about and there is a reason why even monks go celibate.
LEO imo really needs to do a video on semen retention. It doesn't solve all of your "problems", but it helps so much.
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38 minutes ago, This is the end said:@Leo Gura When someone with a heart connection shows up who increases your selfrealization during sex (which is possible), do you take it?
Sex does not have to be a distraction ultimately, it still can be a way of 'communicating' at high stages. Intimicy is not excluded at those high stages: It can be a part of your experience.
Sex can be a lot more than just you jerking off to yourself.
Maybe on a psychedelic, but a enormous high stage on a psychedelic may be unachievable as a standard way of living. About the level of the monks and yogi's: celebate is maybe some virtue of not being discracted of experiencing it as too shallow or being ultimately alone with god. Then I would think they only maybe experienced the shallow form of sex. When such a yogi get's a girl with a heart connection and he has sex which stimulates his awakening? what then?
Getting to sex can be done in an divinly appointed manner; it can sort of come on your path. When that happens at that high stage and you feel that heart connection with someone, why not go with the flow?
What I am getting at is that I believe there is no virtue in transforming sexual needs. It is a goal in the classical enlightenment model: materialism is lower in development than spiritual connection. In truth, both are equally valuable. If someone is really enlightenment, the notion of what is more important is absent.
The spiritual model needs to be updated, and has been.
It is easy to confuse me here as a materialist and defending my viewpoint, but it is not the case. It is that the path is not as linear and things wind up appearing again in weird ways. Those monks and yogi's have an outdated way of doing spirituality.
I also spoke with Synchronisity... it is just something with the new generation that their consciousness originated from another level. It is for me more that I am a higher aspect going through lower stages as well, but it is less dense. I am blowing the unpure pieces off my field. I am actually more and more seeing and experiencing from this higher perspective and operating through it.
I totally agree with you - it's a belief that they created for themselves. It has nothing to do with reality. It's their ego that thinks that it's doing something and getting somewhere by staying away from sex
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I am not dismissing it without understanding.
I understand what you are saying because I have been there. Concepts are helpful in the beginning, but as you go further in this journey, it is an inevitable process that the concepts would have to be dropped, in fact for a lot of people (including myself), it would even happen naturally.
To clarify this further, I take big breaks from the forum, and from time to time do check in out of interest.
Once you have a big enough of awakening, you will understand what I am saying but not just on a mental level that you are doing now.
My suggestion would be to add more sub-categories to this forum, like a beginner's section, intermediate and advanced.