Nivsch
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2. If your family and friends were hostages in a nearby country which its citizens allowed it to become a terror base, you would also, likely, do maximum material damage that would put the best pressure as possible to release them and you easily would have no sympathy in this heated moments to those citizens property.
3. An extreme minority of fanatic French people attacked German people, what causes Nazi Germany ideology to be created (an analogy) but not before they declared they want compromises (what they really said) and don't want war
4. Sometimes war is necessary, like the current example.
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3 hours ago, Raze said:1. The suicide bombings began after the first intifada, they were a response to Israeli occupation and violence. H
2. hamas haven’t claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing since 2008
The Israel military has engaged in many massacres of civilians long before Hamas was even founded.
1. The suicide as a method started then but the explosions (without suicide) attacks of Palestinians against Israeli civilians started long before that.
2. hamas and fatah are both responsible since 90s.
3. You will have to add examples of such intentional "massacares" of civilians (not terrorists).
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52 minutes ago, Raze said:Israel’s priority is not protecting its citizens nor is it getting the hostages back.
Attacks from Gaza have happened for decades killing Jews, rather than try and remediate the situation Israel allows it to happen for opportunities to massacre Palestinians. They call it mowing the grass.
This is a low intensity war against hamas in the west bank since 2002 until this day, the only thing that stopped the suicide bombers came from there.
No massacares at all. You conflated civilians with hamas.
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This tactic won't work. The initiated or intentional violence coming from Israel is promil in comparison to that of the Palestinian's terror organizations.
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@Bobby_2021 Which means all the so called developed countries like UK, Sweden and the like are indeed very developed relative to the muslim countries, but in the broad sense even them are still only half-baked developed because, among other things, the reasons you mentioned.
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@LSD-Rumi But it didn't.
This was just South Africa government who invited hamas leaders to their office during the same month in when they submitted their claim to the court.
The court did nothing tangible/operational because it also understood this "genoc*de" legend isn't a serious thing.
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@Raze Actually many proofs for that has been displayed by Israel.
To deny the human shield is like to deny oct 7th.
This is the ABC of a terror organization most basic behaviour who has no other chance to survive against a powerful military but through this way.
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13 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:Hamas will and should cease to exist. They can choose their final tomb. Doesn't matter that they are amidst civilians. Hamas tunnels will be destroyed.
Hamas is the one committing war crimes by using civilians as a human sheild. This is not enough to deter Israel.
Corrected it for you.
+1 🧡
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40 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:Exactly. They have shown themselves to be not developed and very much middle eastern/arab in their behaviour.
This is true to Ben Gvir party.
Not to 90% of the Israelis who are westerners average and developed just like the west.
This paragraph goes very deep (in my opinion) into the psychological complexity of all of us but seems the strongest (on average) in the west left.
This is not to say we don't have to be humane as possible in this war, we have to. But this is still a worth thinking and learning from statement.
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13 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:Where were your grandparents born?
Northern East Europe and South America.
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6 hours ago, Raze said:
interesting chart explaining the traumatic experience of a average Gazan 14 year old (this chart was made in 2021, it does not include the current war)
Blockage 🤣
But seriousely, if Saudi and Amirates (or some similar version with moderate Arab countries) will take the charge then Gazans life will be much better than all of the tragic last 20 years under hamas.
But Netanyahu is terrible and always run from any geopolitical creative thinking what makes US to now seeth with anger on him for a good reason.
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@Carl-Richard The west, today, honors the individualism way too much above the other values, unproportionally, what creates many problems.
2. The west emphasizes one's strenghts also too much, and overlook the importance of working on the person's weaknesses, from them even more important development can occure.
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@zazen Enough with the naiveness. UNRWA has been proven to be connected to hamas and giving blind eye to terror behind any doubt.
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3 hours ago, Heaven said:Hamas started a war because they can’t sit around and continue to be funded by terror organizations worldwide.
The fact that they focused on building tunnels under the city shows that they don’t care what will happen above it.Now IDF is doing an extremely hard job to avoid the next massacre. Of course when Hamas is hiding underground civilians will get hurt. To blame Israel for that it’s ridicule.
+1 ❤
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@Merkabah Star For me to deny the human shield issue as number one strategy and effort of hamas is similar to deny oct 7th.
You are free to think whatever you want, anyway.
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@Merkabah Star 5 minutes ago you denied that hamas hides behind civilians and use them as a shield and dismissed it as a "cool story".
Then of course that Israel and hamas will seem to you as equal, when you design the reality however you want.
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9 hours ago, Vrubel said:I really don't understand the tactic of focusing on the borderline/problematic 5%+ and doing such efforts days and nights to make the other side to look as monsterous as possible. This is a cold calculated stragety the pro palestinian side is champion in. This is so toxic, just in analogy to how the bully child in school make everyone else to laugh at the shy quiet kid.
I could also use this tactic on Canada and people here will be sure at the end of the day that Canada is the darkest place on earth with the worst people. But I won't. I don't believe in this evil way.
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9 minutes ago, Raze said:Israel has lost many civilians and soldiers, hurt its economy, and damaged its national standing, this is not a good event for Israel either. You shouldn’t diminish their suffering to tout victory.
So lets not react at all and let the PTSD poison our society and destroy us from inside.
You are holding Israel to a tier 2 trauma management tools. How easy is to demand unrealistic expectations from the side you don't like.
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5 minutes ago, Raze said:False, prior to oct 7 it was already the deadliest year for Palestinian children. 40% of Gazans were unemployed, many had malnutrition, and Israel wasn’t removing the blockade.
Because of hamas.
The Israeli-Egyptian border only prevents marine and air ways from Gazans.
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8 minutes ago, Vrubel said:But they don't care! The suffering of their people is just another weapon in their arsenal.
True.
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@Raze Thank you. Exactly what I mean.
Of course they will do that. They think about their family members who are hostages of hamas. This is very understandable.
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@zazen Yes the Palestinian propaganda machine is very effective.
They are very rich and enormously funded in billions.
Not innocent nor "weak" at all.
Their weapon is strong and sofisticated. Too bad that in regular days their mental weapon is used towards their own civilians, also, very effectively.
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10 minutes ago, Vrubel said:Last night I wrote some heartful and thought-out peace and wisdom-oriented pieces on my phone to maybe share on this thread but seeing how it's further devolving into absolute toxicity I'd rather keep it for myself and not dishonor it by posting it here.
This is why I get accused of bias and for good reason. I'd rather be biased and express my admiration and defend Israel by standing up against the lies than be associated with the uber-hypocrite, brainless and toxic menace that represents the other side.+1 ❤
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7 hours ago, Merkabah Star said:Cool story bro.
This hiding behind civilians story has become void, not sure why you keep peddling it? If you think by saying it enough times we will start to believe it you are wrong. That kind of mind conditioning/brain washing technique works on your countrymen but not on anyone else.
Thank you for putting down your mask 🙂
Now I understand better how immaturity there is here, and that 90% of the pro palestine / Anti Israel propaganda is rubbish.
I will keep trying to relate and make discussion with the sane 10%, although, this is difficult to find. Not so common as I used to think.
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We were especially loved and hugged by the world in 7.10 and 8.10 and 9.10. Until we invade Gaza.
World's opinion is like a roller coaster and it will be changed once again to Israel's favor once the terror reach their doorstep.