Nivsch

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  1. 7 hours ago, BassamMo said:

    The scenes coming from Gaza... wow! IDF is going berserk and literally striking everything. Hamas are freaks and should be dealt with 100% but my God, the atrocities and massacres the IDF is carrying out in Gaza are next level terrorism.

    Those buildings are EMPTY after civilians leave as they were asked by Israel all the time to do so.

    The goal of the bombing is to change the terrain and the landscape because otherwise our soldiers will be sitting ducks.

     


  2. 28 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

    Hamas can't be fought in isolation. If Hamas is attacked Hezbollah will be involved and they have 200k soldiers around Israel. I doubt Israel is able to survive this, and if it does, it might wish it didn't.

    It has 100K + 7K commando

    Israel has 500K + Airforce + other things to use if forced to a corner + USA support.

    Also you dont know how much our society unify when forced to do so. This is amazing what is happening here today. Every one is just looking to help in any way.


  3. 5 hours ago, Sir Oberon said:

    Hamas wants Israel to invade Gaza, why else would they do what they did?  

    Israel is so much stronger than hamas and also more than any other country in the region because of its culture of learning from every mistake, survival mentality for 75 years and democracy level of development which allows variety of opinions and endless brainstorming. 

    If hamas wants that, it is a suicidal desire.


  4. 10 minutes ago, HMD said:

    @Breakingthewall okay so they became hostile due to a reason right? If you want to make things better then one would start by undoing whatever caused that hostility. 

    But Israelis have refused to do this. They have failed plenty of times to let go of Gaza. 

     

    Israel evacuate from gaza in 2005 letting them do all they want like an independent state.

    In 90's and 00's israel has suggested huge withdrawals including to 67' borders and part of jesusalem to be the palestinian's state capital. Non of the suggestion were accepted by the palestinians and the terror even increased after the peace negotiations.


  5. 7 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

    @Breakingthewall Your whole post is extremely biased and racist.

    What Israel should do is realize its policies only create and enforce terrorists. They should stop expanding their land, give back some land to the Palestinians and give same legal rights to Palestinians. Same way white americans did to afro americans. This will ease the hatred towards Israel and move things towards a better future. 
    Otherwise keep doing things the same way and endure terrorist attacks forever.

    Israel has tried this many many times during 90's and 00's and the palestinians ALWAYS said NO and sent even more suicide bombers.


  6. @Breakingthewall I hear that hamas didnt know they will "succeed" so much. They thought idf will definitely wait for them.

    Thats why i think this wasn't calculated. 

    They are brutal and no so strategic in their thinking.

    The world today understands Israel more than ever. This is not so black and white as you represent it. Israel has to respect itself first and foremost if want to be respected long term.

    The muslim world tend to support the palestinians of course but many of them still not supporting to such cruel things hamas did.


  7. 8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    Why go after the terrorists when it is much easier not to let them exit? In addition, there are millions of fanatics willing to replace them. It's just revenge and self-esteem, useless. 

    I would agree with you if the situation was similar to all the previous rounds of Israel-hamas conflict during the last 15 years.


  8. 1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

    There should already have been 10,000 troops patroling that boarder full time.

    That was the key mistake here.

    Israel can simply establish a DMZ like in North Korea. No one ever invades across that DMZ.

    What is Israel doing with its army?? Israel has a huge army and a tiny country. Why don't they have at least 10,000 troops around Gaza?

    I think the settlements took a big amount of resuorces from IDF. But also the underestimation of the whole system of hamas capabilities.

    Good to know about DMZ i didnt know that. Ok so i hope IDF will learn the lesson and do that across our borders.


  9. 36 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    There should already have been 10,000 troops patroling that boarder full time.

    That was the key mistake here.

    Israel can simply establish a DMZ like in North Korea. No one ever invades across that DMZ.

    What is Israel doing with its army?? Israel has a huge army and a tiny country. Why don't they have at least 10,000 troops around Gaza?

    I am still concerned that after what happened, not demanding high price from hamas for decades / not eliminate him, will cause a psychological damage to the Israeli's sense of identity, unity and security and can have serious consequences on the strength of the israeli society. Sometimes you have to face your demon head on, also collectively. I try to see this revenge emotion as also intelligent and here for a reason, at least in my opinion, and i think we have to use this emotion smartly but to overlook it will be a mistake.


  10. @Leo Gura The problem is that hamas proved it can invade through a cement wall and also easily skydive above it.

    What you suggest can be possible, in my opinion, only if a great force of at least 1000 soldiers will sit 24/7 near the border. But more secure option is to establish a safe zone occupies by Israeli soldiers and maybe even international force, which will have some strategical depth of say 50-100 km that will ensure time to Israel to responde to every invasion of hamas which will require some invasion to gaza.


  11. 21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    But also, it seems Israel does not care about the hostages. They will not stop this war for those hostages. They want to wage their war and somehow magically save the hostages, which sounds ridiculous.

    Personally I feel we cannot give up the hostages but we also cannot give up our goal to eliminate hamas.

    without winning in this war, Israelis will stop feel secure in their country and will stop believe psychologically in their country in a very deep sense which is not less severe than the hostages problem.

    Both goals have to be achieved somehow.