UFOs Are Here

[LoneWonderer]

14 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think this is controlled disclosure. We are being told exactly what they want to tell us.

I've mentioned a couple of times I have had experience with visitors. 

One of the things they 'told' me (told because I don't have a word for it, it is more like transmit or you enter one mind with them) - was that some UAP/UFO's are ours, and some are theirs. The reason our tech hasn't been revealed to us is because it works on free energy. Governments do not wish for a complete collapse of all systems as a result. They were pretty adamant that free energy would end many systems we labour under that keep us somewhat stuck (bills, power, water etc in a cycle of working). These UFOs take energy from the fabric of spacetime itself. Our science and physics has been limited and there are gaps in our knowledge that are intentional. I do recall them impressing upon me to look into why physics hasn't progressed in so long, after so many breakthroughs.

'They' also routinely interfere with nuclear power. This is the one way we can obliterate ourselves. We are very unique in the universe because we are a voiced species who are very very individuated as a result. Supremely creative. 

Dunno if anyone else on this forum has any experiences? These were mantis things - bigger than a doorway, almost room height. With black eyes they did the mind-union thing. The eyes are really frightening. Like falling into too much knowledge.

Anyway feel free to believe this or not. Just what happened to me. 

This is fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I have heard similar stories from others about these Mantis beings who tell a very similar story. Was it only the one time it happened to you or repeated encounters? Did they let you know why you were "chosen" for them to communicate with you?

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I've mentioned a couple of times I have had experience with visitors. 

Where did this happen?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

10 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

This is fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I have heard similar stories from others about these Mantis beings who tell a very similar story. Was it only the one time it happened to you or repeated encounters? Did they let you know why you were "chosen" for them to communicate with you?

Twice it has happened - no idea why I was chosen. They gave me the impression I was being observed since an infant. I don't think there is anything remarkable about me that would single me out. Only that I have some skills with emotions & feelings that are less common.

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Where did this happen?

At my late grandfathers house the first time (Melbourne). Second time at the Riverina - which is an outback agricultural region in NSW Australia. There is a farm there owned by a family friend I stay at occasionally.

[Leo Gura]

25 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

At my late grandfathers house the first time (Melbourne). Second time at the Riverina - which is an outback agricultural region in NSW Australia. There is a farm there owned by a family friend I stay at occasionally.

You claim you met an alien??

[theoneandnone]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You claim you met an alien??

Would aliens technically be part of infinity of gods that god imagines? 

[theoneandnone]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Twice it has happened - no idea why I was chosen. They gave me the impression I was being observed since an infant. I don't think there is anything remarkable about me that would single me out. Only that I have some skills with emotions & feelings that are less common.

At my late grandfathers house the first time (Melbourne). Second time at the Riverina - which is an outback agricultural region in NSW Australia. There is a farm there owned by a family friend I stay at occasionally.

Was it greys?

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, theoneandnone said:

Would aliens technically be part of infinity of gods that god imagines? 

Everything is.

That doesn't prove that aliens are flying around Earth though. That is an open question.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[theoneandnone]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Everything is.

That doesn't prove that aliens are flying around Earth though. That is an open question.

Just think for a second smoking dmt with a alien and getting all their information you may think eh it’s still god imagining it all even if it’s all dream stuff there’s no telling what information and consciousness they Possess 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You claim you met an alien??

According to the proper use of the word 'claim', yes - because I have no evidence or proof. All I have is my own experience that I return to. 

For a long time I just told myself I was crazy. And I have been told I am crazy. Or making shit up. 

I have gone over and over what makes something real.

 

[UnbornTao]

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

All I have is my own experience that I return to. 

 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

According to the proper use of the word 'claim', yes - because I have no evidence or proof. All I have is my own experience that I return to. 

For a long time I just told myself I was crazy. And I have been told I am crazy. Or making shit up. 

I have gone over and over what makes something real.

 

Testimony is not considered as evidence on this forum. Perfect example of where too much epistemology can deny certain aspects of reality. You are not crazy or making shit up. Yes, there are scammers and loonies out there. But there are also many sane, intelligent people like yourself, who have had similar real experiences. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Testimony is not considered as evidence on this forum. Perfect example of where too much epistemology can deny certain aspects of reality. You are not crazy or making shit up. Yes, there are scammers and loonies out there. But there are also many sane, intelligent people like yourself, who have had similar real experiences. 

Thanks for this. I don't often speak about my experience because in the past it has simply acted to discredit me in other arenas: suddenly one is not taken seriously or completely dismissed because one aspect of experience isn't aligned with others. I do realise it is a huge claim. But to actually deny the experience is a much worse outcome for my own sanity. It is/was a big ontological shock. And I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[Wilhelm44]

39 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Thanks for this. I don't often speak about my experience because in the past it has simply acted to discredit me in other arenas: suddenly one is not taken seriously or completely dismissed because one aspect of experience isn't aligned with others. I do realise it is a huge claim. But to actually deny the experience is a much worse outcome for my own sanity. It is/was a big ontological shock. And I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Do yourself a favor, and read up on some other testimonies, using key words from your unique experience when searching. I think you might be amazed at how many people have had similar experiences like yours. 

And perhaps dont share the details of your experience here on the forum, unless you want to get into a discussion on the nature of experience. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Eskilon]

@Natasha Tori Maru I dont have any personal experience but I am open-minded, and honestly if I did have I wouldnt share with basically anybody because ridicule will follow; so props to you to saying it, even though its here, it still takes courage .

In you experience did you get any information on why they still exist in form? I mean, if they do exist and can travel the universe/dimensions with ease, they probably explored spirituality in depth and know a thing or two about consciousness; so why do they keep exploring the universe? Is it to share love and seek more knowledge?

And also, why the Mantis type and not any other type contacted you? From what I read the ones that make contact most frequently is what is called the Greys, some testimonies say we are them -- they are us in the future.

Edited 2 hours ago by Eskilon

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Eskilon I wasn't going to reveal this here. But I just sort of lost all fucks hiding shit that is a big part of my experience. I used to be so closed off. As I get older I just stop caring about how I am perceived. 

I have just as many questions as you really. I don't know why the mantis ones showed themselves to me. No other type. 

I can tell you that they don't exist in our material reality. They don't experience time. They have a collective form of memory/consciousness that is really different because they don't have voices, there isn't a language. Whole concepts of information felt transmitted - it feels like you suddenly have all these gestalt/images but with context transmitted at the same time. But there is an awareness another is connecting and sharing the concepts. You feel the expanse. 

It is like a giant mind behind the eyes - and it makes me wonder if @Leo Gura's alien consciousness wasn't something similar accessed, somehow. And I do not mean alien as in NHI or extra-terrestrial. I mean like a hive mind of consciousness like a river of knowing. Like a tap into some other type of consciousness that isn't contained to a form but semi unified and expansive. Don't know any of this for sure. Just makes me wonder.

I don't have answers - just more unknowns. Like yourself!

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Eskilon I wasn't going to reveal this here. But I just sort of lost all fucks hiding shit that is a big part of my experience. I used to be so closed off. As I get older I just stop caring about how I am perceived. 

I have just as many questions as you really. I don't know why the mantis ones showed themselves to me. No other type. 

I can tell you that they don't exist in our material reality. They don't experience time. They have a collective form of memory/consciousness that is really different because they don't have voices, there isn't a language. Whole concepts of information felt transmitted - it feels like you suddenly have all these gestalt/images but with context transmitted at the same time. But there is an awareness another is connecting and sharing the concepts. You feel the expanse. 

It is like a giant mind behind the eyes - and it makes me wonder if @Leo Gura's alien consciousness wasn't something similar accessed, somehow. And I do not mean alien as in NHI or extra-terrestrial. I mean like a hive mind of consciousness like a river of knowing. Like a tap into some other type of consciousness that isn't contained to a form but semi unified and expansive. Don't know any of this for sure. Just makes me wonder.

I don't have answers - just more unknowns. Like yourself!

That's really cool, I am curious, what kind of insights did you receive from having this experience ? ps I heard that mantis beings have a brilliant sense of humor

[LoneWonderer]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

And perhaps dont share the details of your experience here on the forum, unless you want to get into a discussion on the nature of experience. 

I'd like to believe we are open enough to be able to talk about this stuff here. I did shit on a Jesus believer some weeks ago on this forum so maybe not as open minded as I thought...Guilty! 😅

 

15 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

I don't have answers - just more unknowns. Like yourself!

@Natasha Tori Maru You are appreciated for sharing your experiences and very brave! Was meeting the beings scary for you? I've heard before that these beings place you in a trance like state (you mentioned the black eyes) where all fear dissapears. I don't know what that could be like but I'm imagining a psychedelic state or when you are in that in beetween stage of wakefulness and dreaming...How have the experiences changed your life trajectory would you say?

Edited 2 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

And perhaps dont share the details of your experience here on the forum, unless you want to get into a discussion on the nature of experience. 

Good advice. To be honest there isn't much for anyone to gain from my story. 

2 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

@Natasha Tori Maru Where these scary experiences for you? I've heard before that these beings place you in a trance like state where all fear dissapears. I don't know what that could be like but I'm imagining a psychedelic state or when you are in that in beetween stage of wakefulness and dreaming...How have the experiences changed your life trajectory would you say?

Not at the time, I was very tranced out like you described. It was afterwards. I felt like my concepts of all I knew disintegrated. I questioned everything and felt like I was going insane. I kept trying to redefine reality and what I classed as real. And I really understood in that process that I didn't know anything and hadn't ever really dug into what made me able to define something as real or not. The experience was probably what prompted me to explore OBE's and hypnagogic work.

Thanks for being open minded. Will leave it at that  

[Salvijus]

5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Twice it has happened - no idea why I was chosen

Plot twist: you're one of them. 

 

[Jehovah increases]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

Awesome, Natasha Tori Maru, love stories like yours.

Edited 9 minutes ago by Jehovah increases