Solipsism proof : experience isn't divided nor limited

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

Look, it's easy to say such wise seeming things, but i don't care about socalled nondual wisdoms or shit like that. I can talk in such a way that you will believe that i'm the most awakened being in existence, it is easy to do that. 

You can say that everything is perfect, no need to focus on the dark, just be, you are existence itself, etc etc etc. But, trust me, i've read and listened a loooooot of such talks from a loooooot of socalled masters and so on. But you need to be honest with yourself and embrace yourself, and use your reason and intuition to find your own path. 

You don't know where anyone is, and what they need, and so forth. It is easy for us on this forum, or in videos and books and so forth, to pretend like we know what everyone is going through, and what they need and so on, and we a lot of that. But things are different when it comes to individual experiences of individual beings, you see. 

I can parrot all the spiritual teachers and masters and so forth, and i'd do that pretty good, but the real shit, the real understanding, is not in saying the wise looking words, but in truly accepting yourself where you are and being able to quiet your mind more and more, so that you will be more and more open to your inner awareness and intelligence. 

I don't say let's get lost in our fears and angers and so forth, but, at least for me, it is important to not say "oh these negative thoughts etc are just illusions" etc, because the frickin experience of them is real, and it is not always that easy to find your way through the shit that you are going through. 

 

You're still projecting. "For you", yes. That's all you can talk about. Like you said, you don't truly know where everyone's at, but the way you speak, it sounds like you believe we're all parroting and saying what sounds good but when the shit hits the fan, reality sets in. Why do people assume one is just parroting. Maybe, just maybe there are some who do "practice what they say", or who doesn't have much fears or who doesn't care what happens to them or who is living a life of true surrender. 

I refuse to let people parrot their fears unto me and who keep insisting for me to live as they are. Call it non-dual wisdom all you want. You don't know the kind of life i'm living within, no matter what my outer circumstances may appear to be. When I say detach and don't be attached to anything, that to me doesn't equate to non-dual wisdom, for me it is from experience. It is how I live my life from within. Why? Because I've been there done that. Where is it all now that I was so attached to. Not here. So, I've learnt that through experience. There is a freedom that comes with that. I've learnt that. It is who I have become. So I'm not just parroting non-dual wisdom here. 

I never said to you every thing is perfect, no need to focus on the dark. You're the one saying that I said that. What you call dark, someone else might not see as dark. Someone else might just interpret your dark as what is. Misery loves company and we like to see the world a particular way as being hard and downright nasty and when someone comes around and say don't get attached, we call them out on non-dual bullshit and tell them to get real. 

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Loveeee said:

explained how in my original post, but there are many ways to see it 

Awakening is real, you can't see it from many ways because it isn't anything that you see. It's the real thing, the existence alive opening in you. The total abyss that open totally and reveals what it is

[Vibroverse]

17 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're still projecting. "For you", yes. That's all you can talk about. Like you said, you don't truly know where everyone's at, but the way you speak, it sounds like you believe we're all parroting and saying what sounds good but when the shit hits the fan, reality sets in. Why do people assume one is just parroting. Maybe, just maybe there are some who do "practice what they say", or who doesn't have much fears or who doesn't care what happens to them or who is living a life of true surrender. 

I refuse to let people parrot their fears unto me and who keep insisting for me to live as they are. Call it non-dual wisdom all you want. You don't know the kind of life i'm living within, no matter what my outer circumstances may appear to be. When I say detach and don't be attached to anything, that to me doesn't equate to non-dual wisdom, for me it is from experience. It is how I live my life from within. Why? Because I've been there done that. Where is it all now that I was so attached to. Not here. So, I've learnt that through experience. There is a freedom that comes with that. I've learnt that. It is who I have become. So I'm not just parroting non-dual wisdom here. 

I never said to you every thing is perfect, no need to focus on the dark. You're the one saying that I said that. What you call dark, someone else might not see as dark. Someone else might just interpret your dark as what is. Misery loves company and we like to see the world a particular way as being hard and downright nasty and when someone comes around and say don't get attached, we call them out on non-dual bullshit and tell them to get real. 

 

What i'm saying is there is something like law of attraction or resonance, or whatever you call it, and when we are in a dark state, so to speak, things just don't go well, and we may get more and more lost in our stories and fear and whatever it is. 

What i'm saying is, if you have fears and worries which you believe cannot be solved, you might try to run away from them and get lost in mental modes, spiritual and philosophical stuff, at least that's the case for me. 

I'm not saying to you that i'm awake, or i'm superior to you, or things like that. In fact i don't even care about being awake etc, those who wanna play that game of who is more awake etc can keep playing that game. 

I'm someone who is going through his own shit, and trying to find his resonance or alignment, but it simply doesn't work for me by simply letting go of my issues and pretending like i don't have those issues. 

Trying to do that is just futile, it is just spiritual bypassing, so to speak. That's why i'm completely tired of all spiritual and philosophical talks, and shit like that. I simply wanna turn within and surrender to where i am, as much as i can. 

My experience is like me falling from heaven to some sort of a hellish situation, and i am where i am. Maybe i am not that awake, or maybe i am in a situation that is harsher than what most people are going through, i don't know about that. 

I just am where i am, and i've found that if i simply accept where i am and relax into it, so to speak, more into inner silence, so to speak, it seems like i relax more and feel better. 

I may not be a very awakened being, or whatever, but i don't really give a fuck about that, to be honest, i'm just trying to find my way, really. 

I got lost in many philosophies and shit like that, but i just wanna be "woo woo", in a sense, i guess, haha. 

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Vibroverse

[Jowblob]

You will experience and have experienced every instance of so called life, you, me , him. We are the instances of the same life.
There are infinite amount of different universes that do not support life, this one does because it's "stable". The consciousness/mind is stable here, if you did lsd you know what i mean. Where there is no stabillity, there is just solipsistic dream mind available.

Nothing by definition does not exist, since nothing cannot exist what is left is existence. Existence is infinite, it has no end and no beginning therefore no creator. The universe is a spontaneous event and inevitable within the eternity of existence, every event can,will and has happend. When you fuck around with your own mind you will see how there is a god behind your camera, but you love stabillity and this life so goodluck waking up. Only your own suffering and limitation will  eventually lead yourself to your own awaking. I'm talking to myself because i'm bored, but most of you don't even know what this quote mean. 

I quit this work because i went deep enough, and i don't circle jerk around this topic anymore like i used to. Just funny to watch what these dream characters are saying and keep circle jerking around this topic not knowing how close they are

Edited November 14, 2023 by Jowblob

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

I just am where i am, and i've found that if i simply accept where i am and relax into it, so to speak, more into inner silence, so to speak, it seems like i relax more and feel better.

This is what I'm talking about, This is a form of detachment, you're not attached to the outcome. You let life take you and lead you by not resisting. You relax and you feel better. Do you know how many times I've seen people say the same thing but in a different way and the two disagreed with each other. So you are attached to spiritual mumbo jumbo and when you hear it you automatically become resistant and put up a defense. If you weren't attached you wouldn't need to not here it or care if you hear it or not, 

You see what I'm saying, sometimes we are so attached to something thinking we're not but it still has an influence over the way we perceive things. If you're not attached to it, it wouldn't matter to you when you hear it or not because you know it doesn't affect you. That's the irony. 

 

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Jowblob you have quoted our Alien Friend👽! How nice😉

[Jowblob]

5 minutes ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@Jowblob you have quoted our Alien Friend👽! How nice😉

I've quoted most of what he said because it's truth based on what i've experienced and know, on the highest consciousness level i ever was there was just an infinite mind/vibration in nothingness/void. I was that mind, but no control since it is infinite. Consciousness is a compilation of random events, but here it takes form as stability because you want to live this imaginary life as co-creator/god to share your own love for yourself 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Jowblob

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Princess Arabia nobody is attached here to anything😆😆😆 Especially solipsists🤣🤣🤣

[Jowblob]

1 minute ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@Princess Arabia nobody is attached here to anything😆😆😆 Especially solipsists🤣🤣🤣

I'm solipsist and i'm attached to this reality, i told it myself to myself. There is no life when there is no game to play, it's eternity. Game of life is like a medicine/remedy you have to take because you're eternal 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Jowblob

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Jowblob good 4U😊. Are You happier with that insight?

[Jowblob]

Just now, Kuba Powiertowski said:

@Jowblob good 4U😊. Are You happier with that insight?

No, suffering will never stop. All the highest "love" talk you will experience as god at the highest levels will not stop your suffering. As long as you're experiencing something , suffering won't stop. Each stage has it's own level of suffering, no matter where you will be.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

No, suffering will never stop. All the highest "love" talk you will experience as god at the highest levels will not stop your suffering. As long as you're experiencing something , suffering won't stop. Each stage has it's own level of suffering, no matter where you will be.

Exactly. People are always asking if you're happier with this and happier with that. It's not about being happy or sad, it's being CONTENT with what is. I'm not searching for happiness because that's a fleeting state. Are you ok with what arises, is the true question and answer in itself. That's true peace. That's what you are. That's suffering and all. Let the suffering come because you know it's not forever lasting, just like happiness.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Jowblob that is interesting what you are saying... a very sad picture you are painting. Well, you are the painter.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

I wonder why the topic of Solipsism gets so much attention and lengthy discussions. Hmmmmmm

because identity, the ego that thinks, speaks, suffers, fears, desires, and creates a mental world, is created through interaction with others. Humans are not individuals, we are part of an entity, the collective ego. Without it we would not be human, we would not know how to speak or think, we would be animals.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

because identity, the ego that thinks, speaks, suffers, fears, desires, and creates a mental world, is created through interaction with others. Humans are not individuals, we are part of an entity, the collective ego. Without it we would not be human, we would not know how to speak or think, we would be animals.

You still didn't address why the topic of Solipsism gets so much attention. You're just saying why humans like to interact. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

You still didn't address why the topic of Solipsism gets so much attention. You're just saying why humans like to interact. 

One reason may be because without the others, we are much closer of what existence is. I think that with the solipsism people tries unconsciously to get rid if the ego. 

the other reason is because Leo did that video and many believes in the Leo's vision, and they want to accept that the solipsism is true, but it's too weird, too disturbing and that is why it is such a controversial topic

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Princess Arabia it's about what is the first. The chicken or the egg. Is the storyteller with a story before a given realm or is it opposite? It also about determinism vs freedom so to speak. Quite interesting and enjoying😄

[Kuba Powiertowski]

Fact is: unbounded infinity breaks any mind. Mind resists as much as it can. Then it finds kind of a solution - from now it's infinite mind. Safe again, whole again.

At some point drop the mind, let it go and simply be, as everything else. Then you are unbounded infinity.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

...and quite joyful and happy infinity😉

[Princess Arabia]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

too disturbing

That's what i'm referring to, just this alone should make you wonder. If I told you I was a chicken and made a video about it, you would probably think it funny, laugh and move on. But no, I tell you you're all that is and there's nothing but you and everybody goes berserk. Why. If it's so absurd laugh and move on. We all want to talk about it because there's a mystery there. A curiosity factor. Hmmm, I wonder...We are all it, whatever that it is, the same it, so all these feelings doesn't just come outta nowhere. Solipsism didn't just come outta someone's ass. That's too wild to imagine out of nowhere. All these things should make you wonder.