Posted January 8, 2024 36 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said: @Merkabah Star Of course, because of A.I.P.A.C Israel lobby in the USA, plus the anti-Semite card they can pull out whenever they want to smear a critic. Bunch of dogmatic nut cases. I promise you, history will not be kind to them. Ceasefires are anti semitic, yeah. 🤡 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said: Ceasefires are anti semitic, yeah. 🤡 To let hamas keep in charge on Gaza will be the least moral and the most evil thing that can be thought about - to Israelis but even more so to the palestinians. Edited January 8, 2024 by Nivsch 🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 (edited) https://www.instagram.com/reel/C11Dg2vIBk-/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Welcome to the "apartheid" 🤗 Edited January 8, 2024 by Nivsch 🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 @Merkabah Star 41 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said: Ceasefires are anti semitic, yeah. 🤡 I know right? this thread in a nutshell: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Nivsch said: Direct experience of living in a society that being treatened and traumatized by terror for 30 years and then the Grand Final celebrated all around Gaza streets in singing and toffy candies Look there is 1 factor you need to consider. When the attacks first happened and people found out, nobody knew that civilians were targeted in mass and villages massacred etc. Personally when I saw it, I thought they had broken the wall and went after Israeli soldiers and military outposts. And to be honest It felt like karma to me. I was happy for them (although I knew the hell that would be unleashed on them as a response) I have huge disgust with the IDF, especially its commanders and the current Israeli government. I genuinely think many of them belong in the Hague jails for war crimes commited throughout decades. However when I saw the news about the civilian killings, about burning childreen alive etc, I changed my mind and felt ashamed for being happy about it earlier. I simply did not know. Maybe those in Gaza when they celebrated thought that people broke in, not that civilians were massacred. A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 50 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said: @Merkabah Star I know right? this thread in a nutshell: 😳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, Vibes said: Oh God. It's getting funny reading your justifications. 'Kill them so they don't get brainwashed! That's the most humane thing we can do. Put an end to their misery' Welcome to bubble consciousness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Vibes said: Oh God. It's getting funny reading your justifications. 'Kill them so they don't get brainwashed! That's the most humane thing we can do. Put an end to their misery' You really don't understand or you don't want to? Dont tell me. You don't want to. Kill hamas. And yes, hamas is the source of those children missery and their psychological and spiritual death. The truth is not comfortable. Well, that's the trick. Edited January 8, 2024 by Nivsch 🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 (edited) And that is why we should never underestimate our enemy ever again. His deffense mechanism is so manipulative genius. Scary genius. Edited January 8, 2024 by Nivsch 🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 8, 2024 27 minutes ago, Vibes said: Kill hamas, even if it kills 10,000 children as a side effect... The children are hamas to them. That’s the brainwashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 15 minutes ago, Vibes said: Yes, 'the children of drakness' Because drake is half jewish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 I’m confused by this conflict which team are we on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 On 1/8/2024 at 3:18 AM, kenway said: This is from Khan Younis in Southern Gaza. As you can see they are ramping up operations, presumably in case they are ordered to ceasefire following the ICJ hearing. Entire villages and neighbourhoods are now being manually detonated. After all, why go house by house when you can go neighbourhood by neighbourhood? It is clearly obvious for the world to see that Palestinian lives don't matter at all. Those building were already cleared of people. I guess you don't know that multiple explosives need to be drilled into the wall and placed at strategic locations within and around the building. There is no one in those building, unless of course some fool tried to come into a warzone which the IDF have already made known. Buildings are destroyed so that those terrorists do not slither back in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 3 hours ago, Karmadhi said: Look there is 1 factor you need to consider. When the attacks first happened and people found out, nobody knew that civilians were targeted in mass and villages massacred etc. Personally when I saw it, I thought they had broken the wall and went after Israeli soldiers and military outposts. And to be honest It felt like karma to me. I was happy for them (although I knew the hell that would be unleashed on them as a response) Look soldiers are people too, many of them young men and women whose life just started. Here's a video for you to humanize them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 While everyone here complains, this is what is actually happening in the world. We act as though Israel is some rogue state dragging the United States into battle, but the big picture is that this is a proxy war dating back to 1967 when the KGB started the PLO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 @PurpleTree 4 hours ago, PurpleTree said: Because drake is half jewish? 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 @PurpleTree 3 hours ago, PurpleTree said: I’m confused by this conflict which team are we on? Suppose to be on the don't kill children and women, especially if HAMAs to civilians ratio is 1 to 100 or 10,000, IMO pro Israeli are worse than Penny Wise and robots if they don't get that it's immoral at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 (edited) @jaylimix 2 hours ago, jaylimix said: Those building were already cleared of people. I guess you don't know that multiple explosives need to be drilled into the wall and placed at strategic locations within and around the building. There is no one in those building, unless of course some fool tried to come into a warzone which the IDF have already made known. Buildings are destroyed so that those terrorists do not slither back in. Cool, but what about the Gazan civilians, the women and children? They have no home to return to as their homes, and buildings are RUBLE! That is part of the UN South African Genocide, and genocide doesn't have to only be kill all men women and children, it includes displacing population as Israel is already doing to Gaza. It's genocide if it includes mass killings, mass displacement of the population, destruction of facilities that handle birthrates like hospitals, which also handles aid and care, destruction of food and water supplies which kills people via starvation, and genocidal intent. Israel ticks all the boxes, and why pro Israel are so blind and in denial about this is insane. How are ya'll so... Edited January 9, 2024 by Danioover9000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 9, 2024 3 hours ago, jaylimix said: Those building were already cleared of people. No-one is suggesting they had people in them. The demolitions are seen within the context of ethnic cleansing of Palestinian residents, to be replaced by Israeli Jewish residents. As with the bulldozer razings in the West Bank. 3 hours ago, jaylimix said: I guess you don't know that multiple explosives need to be drilled into the wall and placed at strategic locations within and around the building. I do know that, but thanks for the sanctimonious strawman. 3 hours ago, jaylimix said: There is no one in those building, unless of course some fool tried to come into a warzone which the IDF have already made known. See first response. 3 hours ago, jaylimix said: Buildings are destroyed so that those terrorists do not slither back in. This is just an idea you've had relative to your xenophobia concerning Palestinians. It's not based on reality nor objectivity. 1.9 million Palestinians are currently displaced without homes. That's not by accident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites