Important! - Nobody On This Forum Is AWAKE

[Yimpa]

20 hours ago, Moksha said:

There is no absolute point of view. There is no solution, only dissolution. It isn't about comprehending something. It's about letting go of false comprehension.

See, this is the irony. I am also aware that there can be an absolute point of view, a solution, comprehending something, and not letting go.

I hope this doesn’t come off as if I’m correcting you. In fact, I’m just pointing out how even the opposite can be true.

[Yimpa]

20 hours ago, Moksha said:

Ignorance is underrated. It is the next best thing to being here.

Absolutely. Ignorance is a powerful ally when you relate to it from a different perspective. 

[Moksha]

14 hours ago, SOUL said:

The ego feeds off attachment, so if we can starve all the trappings of attention it fades away. This doesn't mean we have to be devoid of any 'mapping' or 'story', it's that we should be aware of how attached we are to it. It can cause self suffering to contend with anything that differs, also be ready to burn the map and erase the story in every moment because it's all imaginary.

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[Moksha]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

See, this is the irony. I am also aware that there can be an absolute point of view, a solution, comprehending something, and not letting go.

I hope this doesn’t come off as if I’m correcting you. In fact, I’m just pointing out how even the opposite can be true.

Relative reality is ironic that way.

[Yimpa]

14 hours ago, SOUL said:

The ego feeds off attachment, so if we can starve all the trappings of attention it fades away. This doesn't mean we have to be devoid of any 'mapping' or 'story', it's that we should be aware of how attached we are to it. It can cause self suffering to contend with anything that differs, also be ready to burn the map and erase the story in every moment because it's all imaginary.

You are correct in that that is necessary for a while. 

I’m just pointing out that there’s more to understanding Reality. 

Edited April 22, 2023 by Yimpa

[BlueOak]

@SOUL

Conversation requires a conceptualization of reality, to then pass that on to another person. Some of us are meant to open up that conceptualization, others to reinforce or close it. The interplay you are seeing is part of the dynamic that shapes an evolving reality.

[Yimpa]

@BlueOak Higher states of consciousness do not require a conceptualization of reality in order for conversation to arise. 

[BlueOak]

15 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@BlueOak Higher states of consciousness do not require a conceptualization of reality in order for conversation to arise. 

True.

Words are a conceptualization.

[Yimpa]

3 hours ago, BlueOak said:

Words are a conceptualization.

..dreamt by Reality!

[BlueOak]

34 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

..dreamt by Reality!

Yes and things in reality, have definitions and meanings we assign to them to represent them to ourselves. So everything is conceptualized when its given form.

[Yimpa]

17 hours ago, BlueOak said:

Yes and things in reality, have definitions and meanings we assign to them to represent them to ourselves. So everything is conceptualized when its given form.

There are different degrees to which you can conceptualize something.

Furthermore, you can be so conscious that there is still form, yet you have no concept of what the forms are. It’s like you are experiencing form for the first time in your life.

Edited April 23, 2023 by Yimpa

[SOUL]

13 hours ago, Yimpa said:

You are correct in that that is necessary for a while. 

I’m just pointing out that there’s more to understanding Reality. 

That you think there is something to understand is imaginary, what you think you understand is imaginary, and the very imaginary 'understanding' of the imaginary thing is imaginary. Your pointing is imaginary, what you are pointing at is imaginary, the reason why you are pointing is imaginary, that there is anyone to point at something for is imaginary.

...but then out of nowhere in real life walking outside a bug flies into your mouth.

It doesn't matter what you imagine it to be using whatever mystical rhetoric to describe it there is still a bug in your mouth. But Leo, you'll say, isn't the bug in your mouth imaginary? Well, spit it out and see.

[SOUL]

23 hours ago, Yimpa said:

@BlueOak Higher states of consciousness do not require a conceptualization of reality in order for conversation to arise. 

It is a conceptualization that there are states which are higher than others and that don't require conceptualization, which is all imaginary.

[Yimpa]

@SOUL A better way to frame it is not to say that everything that’s being experienced is imaginary.

Rather, it’s that Reality imagines all experiences into Being.

 

[Yimpa]

Lmao, I have penetrated beyond human logic. 

This is nuts, Neo.

[Yimpa]

On 3/24/2023 at 1:44 AM, michaelcycle00 said:

nobody is ever gonna wake up by discussing things on a forum

On 3/24/2023 at 1:45 AM, Leo Gura said:

Somebody will.

Done.

[BlueOak]

No better or worse. No hierarchy. No Greater or Lesser. No Higher or Lower. Higher and Lower. Hierarchy. Better and Worse. Greater and Lesser.
Nothing to penetrate. Everything to Penetrate. Form and Formless. All and None.

Have a go*d. Day.

All the best.

[SOUL]

On 4/23/2023 at 0:48 PM, Yimpa said:

@SOUL A better way to frame it is not to say that everything that’s being experienced is imaginary.

Rather, it’s that Reality imagines all experiences into Being.

 

'Reality imagines all experience into being' is an imaginary conceptualization...how does the bug taste?

[Yimpa]

9 minutes ago, SOUL said:

'Reality imagines all experience into being' is an imaginary conceptualization...how does the bug taste?

I said “being”; not “Being”. Don’t gaslight me 

Nobody here is AWAKE.

[The0Self]

From one perspective, the moment you die, you’re born again and repeat the same life over again. And again. Each one repeating infinitely, or at least that’s what shape reality appears to be in. That’s basically what hell refers to — but you as God can leave anytime. Hope and hopelessness are not separate. God (your true nature) is completely selfless, so what it longs for (your life), it gets to experience forever, and in so doing, it just so happens to be the most efficient way to create the universe.

So whatever you take from life, is actually god taking from life, and will have to give it back through you; whatever you give to life, is actually god giving to life, and it will have to receive everything back…

BTW, none of that is true, because what it refers to is beyond the contents of reality.

Again that’s 1. a description, and 2. from a perspective, and therefore not strictly true.

 

But the point is this:

1. If it must be true, then it is…

2. …unless you’re awake.

 

Because the truth is actually so much simpler, but the thing is, there isn’t anything that’s not truth, so it can only be pointed to (which can often just look like poetry if there isn’t a very specific type of searching going on).

Truth talk in the dream state is kind of thwarting Mother Nature; guess that’s why technically it cannot be done.