All the MBTI stereotypes are accurate??

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

I had selective mutism too in school.  I was always "the quiet kid".  In no way suggests I'm an introvert.

Yeah yeah, you and your cognitive functions reductionism. It's obviously the case that extroverted MBTI types correlate somewhat with trait extroversion (we talked about this before with ESFJs), and I think that applies to ENFPs as well, certainly if we go by stereotypes on personality database.

[thisintegrated]

10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Yeah yeah, you and your cognitive functions reductionism. It's obviously the case that extroverted MBTI types correlate somewhat with trait extroversion (we talked about this before with ESFJs), and I think that applies to ENFPs as well, certainly if we go by stereotypes on personality database.

Have you checked the stereotypes for ENFP and INFP?  Which "correlate" with you more?

[Carl-Richard]

17 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Have you checked the stereotypes for ENFP and INFP?  Which "correlate" with you more?

INFP by far ☺

[thisintegrated]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

INFP by far ☺

You would say this??

 

@Carl-Richard

Interesting.

Edited May 20, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

You would say this??

I have no pile of abandoned projects or quasi-hyper-social patterns to point to as a supposed Duracell Bunny ENFP. When I think about it, my dad is much more likely to be an ENFP (but he also has bipolar type 1). He has had like 10 different variably skilled jobs and a dozen businesses, met tons of people, runs a Facebook page etc. Other than that, he is pretty much like me.

[Preety_India]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

supposed Duracell Bunny ENFP.

Oh God, stop it. You're making me laugh so hard,my tummy hurts. 

Duracell Bunny omg 

 

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Oh God, stop it. You're making me laugh so hard,my tummy hurts. 

Duracell Bunny omg 

? ?

[thisintegrated]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

? ?

So you identify more as a furry than a Duracell Bunny?

[Carl-Richard]

5 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

So you identify more as a furry than a Duracell Bunny?

Oh yeah definitely ?

Btw, I was going off of these:

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INFP personalities are true idealists, always looking for the good, even in the worst people and events, finding ways to make everything better. While they can be seen as calm, reserved, or even shy, INFPs have a passion and fire that can really shine. Adding about 4% of the population, the risk of feeling misunderstood is unfortunately very high for this type of personality - but when they meet similar people, the harmony they feel will be a source of joy and inspiration.

 

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Moving quickly from one project to another, ENFPs are willing to consider almost any possibility and often develop multiple solutions to a problem. Their energy is stimulated by new people and experiences. ENFP people may not follow through on decisions or projects, and risk burning out from over-committing or following every possibility. They may also have trouble determining priorities.

 

It's what popped up when I googled "MBTI stereotypes ENFP/INFP".

[thisintegrated]

5 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Oh yeah definitely ?

???

 

5 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Btw, I was going off of these:

It's what popped up when I googled "MBTI stereotypes ENFP/INFP".

Fair enough.  But don't stop looking.  It's easy to mix up the two.

They have the same functions, so it all really depends on "are you more I or E"?  You're definitely in the top 5% in terms of extroversion on this forum, so unless the function order reveals some important detail, I'd lean towards ENFP.  Another thing to keep in mind is your "energy" levels, and how they may influence your self-typing.  E.g. people with ADHD or autism may only behave like their true extrovert selves after taking stimulants, and may otherwise just not have the drive to appear "extrovert like".  This is far more common than you'd think.

Edited May 20, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Carl-Richard]

6 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

You're definitely in the top 5% in terms of extroversion on this forum, so unless the function order reveals some important detail, I'd lead towards ENFP.

Extroverted as in forum activity? I would think that the least active members are the most extroverted, because they're out doing stuff

[thisintegrated]

14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Extroverted as in forum activity? I would think that the least active members are the most extroverted, because they're out doing stuff

Extroversion is only correlated with "outgoingness" in feeler sensor extroverts.

E.g. An ENTP's extroverted function is Ne.  Ne has no need for people.  Ne is all about potential/future/ideas/innovation.  It's mostly Fe that makes ENTPs want people.  ENFPs are extroverts like ENTPs, except they don't have Fe and care about spending time with people even less.

Also.. Intuitive extroverts will often prefer socializing on a forum like this.  It's hard to find intuitives irl, so if you're surrounded by sensors you may feel more alone than if you went on a forum to talk about think you're actually interested in.  If I was an sensor, I'd be content with just talking about ordinary things with family.  But as I'm not a sensor, I'd feel more alone talking with them than talking to strangers on the internet.  Intuitive extroverts need to talk about intuitive topics, and for most the only place they'll get that is online.

Edited May 20, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Preety_India]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Extroverted as in forum activity? I would think that the least active members are the most extroverted, because they're out doing stuff

Exactly lol

 

[Carl-Richard]

3 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Extroversion is only correlated with "outgoingness" in feeler sensor extroverts.

Sounds like a convenient assumption 

 

4 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Ne is all about potential/future/ideas/innovation.

Ne on its own, sure, but paired with say Te (which is more dominant in an ENFP than an INFP), these potential ideas are more likely to be manifested in the external world, and that requires interacting with it more, i.e. you're out doing stuff. Other intuitives who have a prominent Te instead have a strong Ni, which is probably less conducive to extroversion (you tend to stick to one project and bury yourself in it), except maybe ENTJs with their tertiary Se.

 

18 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Ne has no need for people. It's mostly Fe that makes ENTPs want people.  ENFPs are extroverts like ENTPs, except they don't have Fe and care about spending time with people even less.

Maybe they want people more, but if you're doing stuff out in the world, especially intuitive projects which tend to be ambitious, you will run into people sooner or later. An ESFP that likes experiencing cool things will most likely be doing it with other people, even though there is no Fe involved. My ESFP cousin is the most extroverted person I know.

[thisintegrated]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Maybe they want people more, but if you're doing stuff out in the world, especially intuitive projects which tend to be ambitious, you will run into people sooner or later. An ESFP that likes experiencing cool things will most likely be doing it with other people, even though there is no Fe involved. My ESFP cousin is the most extroverted person I know.

Te likes team-work, team meetings, etc., but that's not exactly the same as being "social and outgoing".  Socializing for fun is an Fe thing.

 

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Sounds like a convenient assumption 

Not an assumption.  Just because a function is extroverted doesn't mean it needs people.  Only some extroverted functions can make someone want to socialize.

[Carl-Richard]

20 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Socializing for fun is an Fe thing.

Then why are ESFPs so extroverted?

[MarkKol]

On 5/18/2022 at 1:15 AM, thisintegrated said:

See how it's all super specific and is nothing but "stupid stereotypes" ..yet

I discovered the whole Myers Briggs personalities thing a few days ago, and I found it fascinating. Did someone actually say this?

[thisintegrated]

15 minutes ago, MarkKol said:

I discovered the whole Myers Briggs personalities thing a few days ago, and I found it fascinating. Did someone actually say this?

Most people consider MBTI to be nonsense, and the stereotypes are typically seen as a joke as they doesn't seem scientific.  The stereotypes aren't objective, so most people just dismiss them.

 

33 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Then why are ESFPs so extroverted?

Not all ESFPs.  Depends on the ESFP's Fi values.  They're hyper-aware of the physical world, and live in a world of "people/places/statuses", and so they're likely to have many connections and know many people.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, thisintegrated said:

Not all ESFPs.  Depends on the ESFP's Fi values.  They're hyper-aware of the physical world, and live in a world of "people/places/statuses", and so they're likely to have many connections and know many people.

Then it's the same reasoning with ENFPs (but I'm not saying they're equal; certainly SeTe > NeTe): both experience a decent amount of social interactions as a side effect of their decent-strong extroverted functions that pull them out into the world, but not as a main driving force (as with Fe). Before you equate NeTe with NiTe, remember that Ne is more scattered, which will on average lead to a higher volume of social interactions.

So to summarize, I think ENFP is at least a little more extroverted than INTJ, probably a little less than ENTJ, but certainly less than ESFP. The least extroverted of them all is INFP (Te inferior bahaha). So I'm not saying ENFP is like 80s Mötley Crüe level outgoing, but certainly a bit.

 

 

 

[integral]

On 2022-05-17 at 7:15 PM, thisintegrated said:

INTJs are, typically, just intellectually insecure people who feel a need to prove themselves, be it to themselves or to the world.  They are people without a well-defined place in society, who maybe don't fully fit in, and want to prove their worth by developing themselves to the point where they feel no one can look down on them.  Society gives them an identity of inferiority, so they try to compensate by becoming superior in some specific area they've deemed [with their Fi] to be of value.

Accurate when i was younger and centred orange, after this or more green, Fi is redirected to bailing out the masses from there own incompetence, saving the world complex, instead of visions of praise or grandeur. 

 

On 2022-05-17 at 7:15 PM, thisintegrated said:

This applies to every other type too.  E.g. INTJs are loners, atheists, cat people, independent, dark, likely to hate everyone, unlikely to want kids, unlikely to drink alcohol, unlikely to smile in photos, far less likely to be into anime than INTPs, likely to wear all black, likely to say "I told you so" or "actually, no one asked you, so..." or "..and?" or "irrelevant", or "enough!".

loner check, was athiest check, dog person wrong, i was a people pleasure and hated conversation but didn't hate people, check check, i smile on photos because i fake the correct personality for socializing, love/loved anime, i would never say does phrases because i was highly aware of people's emotional state and desires and was motivated to strongly avoid conflict and keep people happy and most importantly to make them like me.

So hyper aware of the experience i'm giving the person and crafting the best possible experience for them.

And luckily all that hard eared social intelligence is thrown right out the window in this forum. It's a wonderful thing lmfao

Edited May 21, 2022 by integral