Tips for a healthy masturbation (for males ,)

[Thought Art]

@Someone here I've posted two videos and an article earlier in the thread.

Here is a book by Grand Qigong Master Mantak Chia teaching you how to Masturbate and have sex in a high quality way.

The Multi-Orgasmic Man

Edited April 23, 2022 by Thought Art

[lostingenosmaze]

39 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

That's cool. I am saying the same thing. Just stop saying people shouldn't masturbate at all. You can masturbate every day if you do it properly and it can improve your health.

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Orgasm, is not ejaculation. Ejaculation should be done rarely.

Orgasm without ejaculating is not what the average person is doing, I doubt they would even know that exists. You say to stop telling people they shouldn't masturbate yet you're essentially saying a should yourself (you should masturbate only in this non-ejaculatory fashion).

Besides that, if what you're saying is true, then most people aren't masturbating healthily anyways, how many people do know this orgasm-without-ejaculation technique?

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Someone here I've posted two videos and an article earlier in the thread.

Here is a book by Grand Qigong Master Mantak Chia teaching you how to Masturbate and have sex in a high quality way.

The Multi-Orgasmic Man

OK thanks. I will check them out and see if it has decent information. 

[Someone here]

33 minutes ago, A_v_E said:

@Thought Art  you enjoy life better, cause when you stop all drugs related rush, the rollercoaster stop and you live in permanent high.

your brain will massively enter in a permanent natural dmt state.

I'll find it for myself, once I m clean off everything for a year ( absolutely everything pleasurable, including sugar )
I've been off weed for more than a year already, and I m now quitting all the others input I had

( I had short relapse last year )
Now I also quitted my old friends to pursue more hardcore spiritual goal. ( I didn't watch movies, series )

and reduced fap since 6 months, and going on hard monk mode now.

this is what sage and guru through the age found and I think this is where is coming their spiritual and physical power.

drugs and orgasms doesn't maximize pleasure and life in the long run, it's a rat trap, it only give a short rush.

I've already felt the permanent drug states the more I stopped using drugs, now I m going off everything to be high on life all the time.

organic body doesn't love you at all, it's trying through years of evolution to makes you reproduce at all cost, only an higher soul could control the urge put in place by nature upon you.

And once you do control the energy flow toward your head, you'll enter in permanent dmt state without any drugs or external factors.

pure bliss like animals.

if you want to maximize pleasure, then it's counter intuitive, you shall stop running after short pleasure.

not to delay gratification even is the goal, but to feel in permanent gratification.

Also you increase meditation, and don't do anything related dopamine high, like attacking people and having discourses.

you must AVOID all chemicals rush, no matter the source ( including social neediness )

And yes, no drugs, no sugar, no sex, no video games, no movies, no series, no video, no binge watching youtube, no discourses on forum, no social neediness/gathering.

meditation, drawing, and empty meditative music.

it takes about 2 years to cure from almost all drugs high after having looked extensively on the subjects, you'll enter months of paws if you abused a chemicals high of any sources I listed above. ( and others I m not aware of )

you must stop iperstimuli, and even most stimuli to gather back all your chakra.

this is how you'll enjoy life.
chasing the dragon will always makes you miserable.

You are on the right track bro I think ?

[Thought Art]

@A_v_E projection 101

You live your way. 
 

I am also doing many of the things you are because I agree with them.

However, sexuality is my birthright. 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

20 hours ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

Guess what, eating cheesburgers is also not inherently bad, if you don't overeat them. The thing is... THEY WERE FUCKING DESIGNED TO BE OVEREATEN. That's kinda the point.

You think pornography wasn't designed to keep you hooked? Think again.

Sometimes, shame is a good indicator that you're doing behaviour that's fucking up your future.

Yep, it's been me all along buddy? common, you seriously think that, or you just fuckin with me

That's a separate issue. Not related to pornography.

Porn is literally just people naked or fucking. 
 

There is a difference between healthy shame and toxic shame. Can you tell the difference? 
 

Porn is related to the point about the church. Whether you can make that connection or not is up to you. 
 

Your body is designed to feel good when you do the right things.

Shaming masturbation or sex done in a healthy way just seems foolish to me. It fils your whole body with a joy, love, vitality when done properly. 
 

if you abuse it and do it in a low quality way you drain your life force.

@Something Funny I’ve linked a book and 2 videos in the thread. I have done it, but it takes practice. I’m rather novice at it. I practiced today, didn’t ejaculate and used some Qigong and filled my middle Dan tian with a vibrant love. 
 

I’m saying this. Don’t shame your body, don’t shame pleasure. When you own your sex and enjoy your sexuality, your pleasure etc I think you can reach higher levels of spirituality, relationships, and creativity and business.

Sex is a pretty personal thing so. Find what works for you and whatever your greatest self love is. I’m just sharing my view. Do you boo.

Im always learning, updating and changing my views. My current view is: Sex is sacred and pleasure is holy. 
 

There is a difference between healthy pleasure and toxic pleasure and it’s up to you to make those discernment’s.

Edited April 24, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

Can someone tell me why they think masturbation is a bad thing to do? 
 

Let’s say you lay down, massage your belly, nipples etc and then you explore your own sexuality, build up a few times a send bust into a love filled joyful experience and then go about your day. 
 

What is wrong with that?

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

Can someone tell me why they think masturbation is a bad thing to do? 
 

Let’s say you lay down, massage your belly, nipples etc and then you explore your own sexuality, build up a few times a send bust into a love filled joyful experience and then go about your day. 
 

What is wrong with that?

Nipples? 

[Thought Art]

Reality is infinitely open ended. 
 

Taoism and Tantra are well established and respectable spiritual paths (both which I am a novice in practicing) and sex and masturbation practices are done for spiritual purposes. 
 

Ive spent a bit of time around sex shamans, Taoists and tantrics… sacred sexuality is a big field to explore and I hope some of you do.

I heard Osho say something like “Lust is the dirt/ soil that the flower blossoms from”

Reclaim your sex, your Eros, your sensuality, your love, your body, you genitalia and don’t let a sick society shame you for your God given gifts. This flower sits right between you legs. Enjoy it.

There isn’t just one or two spiritual paths or techniques.There are many. 
 

How something looks today it won’t look tomorrow. Allow things to reconfectualize over time.

Ive had trips when I totally realized “My penis is meaningless” 

And then I laughed and laughed and laughed because it’s fucking none sense all this shame and fear.

Edited April 25, 2022 by Thought Art

[StarStruck]

Sex is very personal. It is just like asking what is the best ice cream? Personally I don't indulge in fapping or porn, I'm doing sexual transmutation according to the buddhist tradition. I have seen a lot of benefits first hand so I will keep doing it until I'm healed.

[Someone here]

12 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Sex is very personal. It is just like asking what is the best ice cream? Personally I don't indulge in fapping or porn, I'm doing sexual transmutation according to the buddhist tradition. I have seen a lot of benefits first hand so I will keep doing it until I'm healed.

Your definitely on the right track bro.  Keep going ? 

[Thought Art]

@StarStruck I agree

there is no path, the only who doesn’t walk it is a fool

[Thought Art]

46 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Sex is very personal. It is just like asking what is the best ice cream? Personally I don't indulge in fapping or porn, I'm doing sexual transmutation according to the buddhist tradition. I have seen a lot of benefits first hand so I will keep doing it until I'm healed.

Which Buddhist tradition? There’s many.

what are you healing?

Edited April 25, 2022 by Thought Art

[StarStruck]

32 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Your definitely on the right track bro.  Keep going ? 

Thank you :))

26 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Which Buddhist tradition? There’s many.

what are you healing?

Porn has made me very picky. It also made me unromantic. 

[Thought Art]

@StarStruck I’m not talking about porn really

[Ninja_pig]

Why is all this stuff about moderation in masturbation bro-science? I mean, I can see intuitively why moderation may have benefits, but it seems that no one here is interested in actual scientific studies. Can someone PLEASE point me to any case studies or any instances where someone has gathered evidence to support a certain amount of masturbation?  

[Thought Art]

@Ninja_pig It’s not one sided or obvious. 
 

But, I do believe for many men who are addicted to porn… less porn and more actions like meeting women and starting relationships would improve self esteem.

However, there is no evidence that masturbation is bad for you. You can learn to do it in a way that improves health. It’s healthy..

[Someone here]

39 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

However, there is no evidence that masturbation is bad for you. You can learn to do it in a way that improves health. It’s healthy..

What evidence do you want more than your own direct experience? 

Can you describe to me how you feel after you finished fucking your hand ?  Do you feel awesome or do you feel like shit ?

[Thought Art]

@Someone here I usually feel pretty great. Working on getting even better.

I’m not shaming myself because it’s an illusion. 
 

However, I notice variance. Sometimes I think “I shouldn’t have ejacualted because I should have saved this sexual energy”

other times I think “Wow, I feel great and renewed”

So, it’s not one sided. 
 

Learning to orgasm in a high quality way seems ideal to me. 
 

Though, I’ve written some of my favourite songs and had some great insights right after ejaculating. 
 

How you feel after you burst?

You masturbate, you feel shame and whatever and you assume it must be this way for everyone. 
 

I think you can learn to masturbate in a way that cultivates and grows your love, your sexuality and your energy. I suspect ejaculation does waste an energy that you could save and through Qigong circulate.

Masturbation should be done with self love, and can be sacred if you do it with care. 

 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

I’m just learning this as I myself mature in my sexuality. 
 

I do not condemn it in its entirety are you have. I look to do it with more love, ecstasy, vitality and quality.