Joe Rogan SUPPORTS ‘Don’t say gay’ bill

[Danioover9000]

@bejapuskas

25 minutes ago, bejapuskas said:

@zurew Unfortunately sometimes the scientific people however only trust the kind of scientific information that confirms their view.

@Leo Gura  Maybe we misunderstand each other. I am not saying that rape is culturally relative, be it rape of a kid or a rape of an adult.

I was more so talking about the unjust laws. I was talking about law as it is, crime as it is defined differently in different cultures, not consciousness or morality or selflessness, legal stuff.

And I still believe that attraction to kids not always leads to rape, just like attraction to people of your age does not always lead to it, although sometimes it does.

@Danioover9000  I would be careful with saying it is negative in such places. There are gay people in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tanzania, North Korea... All these places. It would benefit the people to teach it, because they are there. It is not negative in that sense.

Maybe you did mean this, but I believe it is more dangerous rather than negative. Fighting for rights is always good, but it can put people into danger. So thats why I dont like the word negative and would rather use dangerous, because I dont wanna assume that countries with less progressive governments dont have gay people.

And actually, in many places, as Somebody already mentioned, the horrible state of consciousness can be caused by the "developed colonizers" who robbed the native people of their superior wisdom of the past and enforced their values. Be careful what you believe.

   What? I was giving a user who asked me to provide a negative example of many more examples of what is being asked. I'm not out right denying that LGBTQ people don't exist in such places, but that they must hide who they are in such places that still are authoritarian regimes that rule those places, and more less developed regions with less developed government that'll punish people with such sex orientations to preserve whatever stage blue/red values and morals of that society. If you want to debate me or have a heated discussion about this issue, I'm not interested, take it up with the user who asked me instead.

[Danioover9000]

@zurew

21 minutes ago, zurew said:

Yes thats true.

But i want to believe that there are some conservatives out there ,that are openminded enough to change their views on things, when they get the sufficient amount of evidence.

   I'm one of those conservatives that is open minded. You are right a few do exist. However I think I'm done with interacting with you, so take care.

[Danioover9000]

@IAmReallyImportant

   Not completely true.

 

[zurew]

54 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   I'm one of those conservatives that is open minded. You are right a few do exist. However I think I'm done with interacting with you, so take care.

I think this got more heated than it supposed to. To be clear i didn't even think that you consider yourself as a conservative and when i wrote my criticisms about them i did not include you there. I didn't even have the intention to just debate but it may came off that way. I saw that you had a different position than me, so i was curious why you took that position thats it. 

What my intention is  to see all the cons and pros around this topic. If you don't want to justify your position thats all good, i won't expect you to do so if you don't want to. I don't think less of you just because you don't want to justify your position. I am open minded about this topic as well, so i am open to change my position.

Also i want to clarify, that when i attack or question a position i don't attack you, but only the positions that you hold. This doesn't even directed to you but for everyone. 

This is a heated topic, so i understand why it got so heated so quickly. But it want to clarify that i don't attack you as a person but only questioning the position that you hold. This way if i get some feedback and some arguments i might change my position that i hold, and everyone can decide and see all the pro and contra arguments regarding this topic.

But if you don't want to continue interacting with me or answering my questions thats all good, i respect that, i won't violate that.

Take care bro, and have a good day/night.

[Danioover9000]

   Related to this thread, Destiny talks about the don't say gay bill:

 

[Gidiot]

@Husseinisdoingfine I watched that vid, it doesn’t tell kids to watch porn, it says that it’s Normal to watch porn, which is true definitely the vast majority of people do. It also says that porn isn’t real in the sense that a lot of it is dolled up and fake and produced professionally, and isn’t something you should expect to resemble real sex. Pretty wise if you ask me.

Edited April 14, 2022 by Gidiot

[a7xKingz]

I understand that the bill is to prevent sexual talk up to 3rd grade. 

And my response to that is, why the hell is sexual talk necessary for kids that age ? 

Let kids be kids, 3rd graders just want to be kids. 

If they see adults kissing each other and get confused about themselves, so what ? 

They're 3rd graders. 

In what circumstance is a teacher out of all people supposed to educate about such topics ? 

For such a relatively new topic (trans-sexuality), I think everyone is learning here. 

I don't think the onus should be on teachers to have to deal with these topics, especially at such a young age. 

Let the parents figure out how to navigate such topics. 

Hopefully they are conscious enough to be able to do so, but they may not be.

But either way I feel like it definitely shouldn't be the teachers job to have to deal with this.