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What is happiness?

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On 1/19/2021 at 5:08 AM, Breakingthewall said:

Happiness=total acceptance of what is, or cessation of resistance to what is

Agreed.

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On 2021-02-09 at 0:14 AM, Someone here said:

It's all programed into you from the beginning.. Stuff like a good meal.. Sexual orgasm.. Socializing.. Entertainment.. Etc pull the switch of dopamine in your brain and that basically makes you happy...

Pleasure and happiness. Is there a difference between the two?


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He dwells in reality,
and lets all illusions go.

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@Breakingthewall

You're confusing happiness with fulfillment. 

Happiness is a concept that buys into our sense of lack. 

Drop the chase for happiness. 

Think more about raising good feelings in your body and what that means. 

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1 hour ago, WelcometoReality said:

Pleasure and happiness. Is there a difference between the two?

I don't know how to answer this question. They are surely linked together (I think this is obvious enough). Yet they are not mutually exclusive either. 


"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible"

-Albert Einstein. 

 

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Happiness:  The end of the need for anything to be other than what it is.


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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Funny, so have been trying lots of stuff lately, well as usual :D and came to conclusion no matter what I do there is some problem when it comes to elevate wellbeing as it does not hold together as well as you might want it to , so I have come to new idea, I know idea, but idea is that life requires for you to be involved in it, involved is not even the right word for it , misleading.

It is just main building block of happiness, I know my explanation of this idea here is really vague and there is lots more to really say to it, but I think this is where love comes in, as it is one thing that can express involvement in anything , in so many different ways, because I  know there will people out there who will think that love is like Conor Murphy style thing, I guess it can , but there are is way more to it and does not have to be like that at all. 

And I am not by no means saying that it is all you need, involvement can be painful, there are lots of people who are involved , their suffering does not come from lack of involvement, my point of this post was really to point out that life requires involvement, without it, there is nothing to be happy about. 

Maybe word love is not right word because of how misunderstood it can be, but who cares , just wanted to share  for fellow explores alike. 

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10 hours ago, PureRogueQ said:

and came to conclusion no matter what I do there is some problem when it comes to elevate wellbeing as it does not hold together as well as you might want it to. 

No matter what you do.. There is always a sense of lack.. Incompleteness.. Disappointment.. Not good enough.. Etc... Why is this the case??  Do you have answer to this question? 

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"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible"

-Albert Einstein. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Someone here said:

No matter what you do.. There is always a sense of lack.. Incompleteness.. Disappointment.. Not good enough.. Etc... Why is this the case?? 

because your ego, which lives in time and of time, cannot be established in the present moment, it needs to project into the future, invent something that needs to change to be happy. There will always be something that is not right, unless the ego is the one who leaves and the real substance remains, which is pure happiness, neither more nor less. the smaller the ego, the more of that substance leaks out. a strong ego that never shuts up, that needs to know, is opaque. almost none of that stuff leaks out and the feeling is infuriating, relentless. If at some point the ego disappears completely, the substance will manifest itself completely, pure light, wonder, enlightenment, the real nature . The problem is that even the ego knows that, he cant remove himself. If he is trying to remove the ego, there is the ego in action, getting stronger doing that work

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13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

because your ego, which lives in time and of time, cannot be established in the present moment, it needs to project into the future, invent something that needs to change to be happy. There will always be something that is not right, unless the ego is the one who leaves and the real substance remains, which is pure happiness, neither more nor less. the smaller the ego, the more of that substance leaks out. a strong ego that never shuts up, that needs to know, is opaque. almost none of that stuff leaks out and the feeling is infuriating, relentless. If at some point the ego disappears completely, the substance will manifest itself completely, pure light, wonder, enlightenment, the real nature .

I think I agree with this conception. Although I won't boil it down to just that. A question tho.. How do you go about eliminating that ego.. In the teaching it's illusory in the first place..? For example if you work on thoughts (what's known as monkey mind).. There is no thinker..it's just an explosion of mental imagery spontaneously foaming out of the 'mind'.. (as one example). 

14 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

problem is that even the ego knows that, he cant remove himself. If he is trying to remove the ego, there is the ego in action, getting stronger doing that work

Yes exactly. Furthermore.. I can't picture how are you supposed to  hang out permanently ego-less..? As Alan watts puts it.. "you wouldn't know who's shoe to put on in the morning" lol. 


"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible"

-Albert Einstein. 

 

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True, thinking about tying your shoes already implies intention, an objective, a before and after ... ego. The problem is if I now have three hours in which I have nothing to do and I think: I am going to disconnect my ego for a while and just be. very difficult. First, it's the ego who thought that, requires to have an ego as small as possible, to know himself completely, to have been egoless before, with psychedelics or in some way, to subconsciously know that egoless is not death, have a strong discipline, and even so almost impossible

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9 hours ago, Someone here said:

No matter what you do.. There is always a sense of lack.. Incompleteness.. Disappointment.. Not good enough.. Etc... Why is this the case??  Do you have answer to this question? 

That is not true , you can feel no lack or incompleteness, disappointment or your experience not being not good enough, you can have most deep and beautiful encounters in life , just as you can have terrible time, in my opinion it is because humans simply do not know much about them self, what they are capable of  and how to properly use what they have. 

 

 

 

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@Someone here You eliminate your ego through meditation (and other practices). 

Leo has a long list on the website. 

Enjoy. 

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10 hours ago, PureRogueQ said:

That is not true , you can feel no lack or incompleteness, disappointment or your experience not being not good enough, you can have most deep and beautiful encounters in life , just as you can have terrible time, in my opinion it is because humans simply do not know much about them self, what they are capable of  and how to properly use what they have. 

 

 

 

Well I've tried a lot of stuff (material stuff) and as expected I end up craving for more. Because the nature of those things is transitory. It's like chasing a mirage. So I'm convinced that chasing experience or external conditions Will not result in deep satisfaction (and this goes against what 99% of people are busy doing). Will result in a temporary satisfaction before the longing resurfacing again. I haven't found a resolve to this issue yet. Except maybe complete monk-mode and abstaining.. Fasting etc... Which doesn't work either. Some people are just not born to be monks. 

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"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible"

-Albert Einstein. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Well I've tried a lot of stuff (material stuff) and as expected I end up craving for more. Because the nature of those things is transitory. It's like chasing a mirage. So I'm convinced that chasing experience or external conditions Will not result in deep satisfaction (and this goes against what 99% of people are busy doing). Will result in a temporary satisfaction before the longing resurfacing again. I haven't found a solution to this issue yet. Except maybe complete monk-mode and abstaining.. Fasting etc... Which doesn't work either. Some people are just not born to be monks. 

It was only because of Rupert Spira's English accent saying "Mirror, Mirage" accent that I got the link between the words mirage and mirror. Told my husband this and he was like, yup, like the Spanish word "mirar" to look, to see. 

Look in the mirror. What you think you perceive is not actual. The reflection in your mind of yourself is not actual. A thought of yourself is not actual. The mirage is seen as a mirage and no longer believed as actual. Mirage doesn't go away. Nothing changes but everything changes. It's a miracle. 

 

 


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@mandyjw don't go full 'Nahm-mode' on me and explain yourself lol... 


"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible"

-Albert Einstein. 

 

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Well, I'd be a bit cautious about this 'eliminate the ego' business. As Eckhart Tolle would say: If you consider the ego to be your personal problem, that's just more ego. I'd go with observing it closely and trying to understand it fully. Maybe even befriend it or (dare I say it?) love it.

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