Best pickup courses and forums?

[electroBeam]

What are the most effective forums and courses that specialise specifically in pickup. A forum where the average member has approached like 1000 girls. Is there any out there? Or equivelant courses. 

[FlowerNote]

RSD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qigOUdAOyRs

 

[LfcCharlie4]

Bradicus, John Anthony, Playing With Fire - All have laycounts of 300-1250 so have certainly appraoched a LOT of girls. 

Personally, I prefer the deep connection you get within a relationship, but learning pickup can help you get that dream relationship, so these guys advice can also be great for that. 

[Recursoinominado]

All from RSD and from Todd Valentine (after RSD, solo career).

I learned a LOT from watching the RSD free content on youtube, a lot of gold nuggets there. They deleted everything but with a google search you can find where to download everything.

[electroBeam]

@killyourinnerloser awesome! 

I'm looking to ask experienced people about nice guy mentality after hooking women. I've noticed that they react better when you're a jerk rather than when you're nice to them, and i need a super experienced guy(s) to talk about that. Hence why im looking for a forum or 1 v 1 sessions for daygame

[killyourinnerloser]

Noooo, don't go down the path of being a jerk just because you think it'll get you more girls. (Link removed by moderator) and I really regret it.

Don't be a pushover - and don't be a doormat.  But you can be a genuinely nice dude and get laid - I'm ridiculously nice to girls. (I'm just not a pushover - I have my own boundaries and I'm not afraid to walk away if a girl does something that's a dealbreaker to me).

Ever read the book "No More Mr Nice Guy"? Start with that if you haven't.

Usually when a guy says "I feel like I'm too much of a nice guy" what he really means is "I never stand up for myself" or "I try too hard to please girls" or "I have difficulty putting my needs first."

But again, you definitely don't need to be a jerk in order to get laid/keep girls around.

[electroBeam]

4 hours ago, killyourinnerloser said:

Usually when a guy says "I feel like I'm too much of a nice guy" what he really means is "I never stand up for myself" or "I try too hard to please girls" or "I have difficulty putting my needs first."

I find that being self centred and putting yourself first and being selfish is attractive to women. And being self centred has nothing to do with being a push over, its got to do with being a jerk. 

You can attract girls while being nice, you can just attract more through being self centred. And why not be self centred if it works better? Its better for you too.

Edited August 2, 2020 by electroBeam

[FlowerNote]

@electroBeam Its not about being a jerk, its about not putting her on a pedestal. You can only get a girl when you truly believe and act like you are equal to her. 
 

This is the main reason why getting 10s is so hard, not mentioning her highly inflated ego and the fact that 100s of guys competing with you.

[electroBeam]

20 minutes ago, FlowerNote said:

@electroBeam its about not putting her on a pedestal. You can only get a girl when you truly believe and act like you are equal to her. 

No not equal, 1000x better than her. 

Its not about not putting her on a pedastool, its about putting yourself on a pedastool. 

That's if you want to get results at the cost of being a jerk. 

[FlowerNote]

 

She needs to put you on a pedestal, you dont even have to put yourself on a pedestal. 

What do you think is hotter to a girl, going a date with Drake when she thinks Drake feels superior to her, or going on a date with Drake when she thinks Drake feels equal to her? She has put him on a pedestal anyway, but the latter will make her hornier. Success with women = value + comfort. 

So make her put you on a pedestal. Just be an awesome and strong man, have income, have status, all that. And you wont need to be a jerk to land a 10. 

Of course never be a pushover to these hoes no matter what  but being a jerk only to get her attracted is just needy behavior with a cunning disguise.

[electroBeam]

8 minutes ago, FlowerNote said:

She needs to put you on a pedestal, you dont even have to put yourself on a pedestal. 

yeah but to get her to put you on a pedastool, you need to put yourself on a pedastool

If you don't even think you're worthy enough to be put on a pedastool, so wont she.

9 minutes ago, FlowerNote said:

What do you think is hotter to a girl, going a date with Drake when she thinks Drake feels superior to her, or going on a date with Drake when she thinks Drake feels equal to her? She has put him on a pedestal anyway, but the latter will make her hornier. Success with women = value + comfort. 

In my experience that's right, once you've 'hooked her' or reeled her in, or gotten her pursuing you, she'll feel more attracted to you if you feel equal to her, and make her feel loved and valued, and be nice, but to get her chasing you, to get her hooked, or to get her attention, she'll chase you and be way more attracted to you if you act like she's a piece of dirt on the ground, and you're only spending time with her out of pity and because you feel so bad that there's someone so insignificant and worthless in this world as her. 

16 minutes ago, FlowerNote said:

So make her put you on a pedestal. Just be an awesome and strong man, have income, have status, all that. And you wont need to be a jerk to land a 10. 

Well to get status and money in a stage orange city largely means being a jerk. 

17 minutes ago, FlowerNote said:

needy behavior with a cunning disguise.

Not necessarily needy, but pragmatic, strategic and effective. 

[ShugendoRa]

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[Consilience]

The 5 principles course from The Natural Lifestyles is amazing so far. Just started while Im still I’m lockdown and even though I cant test out the material yet, the community’s results are there, the infield videos are there, and my intuition tells me Ive stumbled into something great. Not sure how much longer the course will be open, but their YouTube channel is a great resource as well.

[Kailash Bhattarai]

38 minutes ago, Consilience said:

The 5 principles course from The Natural Lifestyles

I did it too, week 1 and week 2 only though, very good for beginners. But the most amazing program in my view is Tyler hot seat at home mastermind, if you are intermediate. For Beginner it is difficult to appreciate the content

 

[Bittu]

On 8/3/2020 at 5:13 AM, FlowerNote said:

@electroBeam Its not about being a jerk, its about not putting her on a pedestal. You can only get a girl when you truly believe and act like you are equal to her. 
 

This is the main reason why getting 10s is so hard, not mentioning her highly inflated ego and the fact that 100s of guys competing with you.

Yeah don't be an asshole guys. We have enough toxic behavior in society.

Be assertive and live a non-needy life.

1. Find your Life Purpose. You need to live an exciting life to attract beautiful women in my experience. If you only get your good feelings from her, it's a dead end.

2. Always wear stylish clothes. The more stylish the better.

This will automatically make people perceive you as more attractive.

3. Having great fitness is in your control, and it makes you more attractive. So focus on that.

4. To reach the flow state, you need to have a clear plan on what you're going to execute.

For example; Tomorrow I will talk with 5 women, ask for at least one phone number and make one girl laugh.

5. Sexy body language. Take up space when you sit. speak a little louder than normal (It will feel like shouting at first).

Walk like a Gunslinger from the wild west. Or a male model.

Pick one guy who you think is attractive and observe how he behaves. Go watch a YouTube video and pay attention to the body language.

 

I used and still use a question when I get rejected and/or girl isn't answering etc.

"What would I do if I had 10 chicks chasing me?"
"What would Leonardo DiCaprio do?"

This immediately puts me in a mind space of detachment, just this simple mental exercise.

 

Read Mark Manson's Models for more info about how to be attractive without playing any sorts of games or being an asshole either.

 

Also, getting 10's is of course difficult. And having a great relationship is not easy. But I believe it is doable.

You must understand the principles of detachment and non-neediness and embody these traits in your behavior and character.