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Keep your eyes peeled tomorrow on the UK news. Big election that will shape the country quite radically over the next 4/5 years. 

Two two main parties that have a chance of winning are the Conservatives led by Boris Johnson (very right wing) and Labour led by Jeremy Corbin (very left wing).

I have a feeling the Conservatives will win a majority, but it's still quite uncertain. I will be voting of course, and I hope all you Brits on here are too!


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I know I’m just some guy on an internet forum, but if anyone in the UK reading this is still on the fence about voting/who to vote for - go out and VOTE tomorrow for Labour or whatever other high-consciousness party has the best chance to win in your seat! 


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   I'm sure the conservatives would win ahead of labour. Boris has come up with a more workable Brexit plan than Teresa May. Meanwhile, Corbyn is still contradicting himself: trying to appealing to the leavers or to the environmentalists with his tree plantation proposal. He can't even come up with solid solutions to immigration and economics. I'm for conservatives and I vote for Boris for progress. The last thing the UK government and people need right now is to go around a perpetual circle along with Corbyn's confusion.

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Good luck Corbyn!


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15 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

I'm sure the conservatives would win ahead of labour. Boris has come up with a more workable Brexit plan than Teresa May. Meanwhile, Corbyn is still contradicting himself: trying to appealing to the leavers or to the environmentalists with his tree plantation proposal. He can't even come up with solid solutions to immigration and economics. I'm for conservatives and I vote for Boris for progress. The last thing the UK government and people need right now is to go around a perpetual circle along with Corbyn's confusion.

Corbyn is a clown but Johnson's materialistic ruthless vision for the UK will bring country 100 years back to times of industrial revolution. I'd rather have someone who is harmful than someone who can do some real damage like his "charming" counterpart in the US. In a globally connected world you CAN NOT isolate yourself. Don't forget that British owe it to their exploitation of the entire world hundred years ago for their wealth and economic boom. This is slowing down and under Johnson the country is going to suffer. 

As an foreign immigrant, I feel sorry for the people and their families who will be forced to live under this idiot's dominion if he gets in. Materialism and sole focus on GDP is destroying this planet. We need less of both and not more

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2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Apparition of Jack    Tell me what policies you want Labour to pass. What do you want from the UK and what do you want it to become?

First of all I'm not from the UK, so I can't speak to what life is like on the ground there, and what I'm about to write are just my own observations, so feel free to accept or reject them as you please, but from what I've seen on the news, from YouTube videos, and from some friends/family I have other there, life seems to have gotten a lot tougher and a lot greyer since the Tories got in around 10 years ago. This has been the result of years of austerity cuts and attacks on crucial public institutions, which has left British society much poorer as a result. Yes, some billionaires get to party with their mates in Dubai, but we're not talking about billionaires here, we're talking about the well-being of a country of tens of millions of people who have to live and work in the real world. This is also on top of the climate situation which isn't getting any better, and which needs to be dealt with if the UK wants to stave off the worse of the social/economic/cultural etc. damage that will result otherwise.

With all this in mind, a vote for the Tories is a vote for further decay. They are a party without any vision and a unhealthy lack of humanity, and have really screwed over the British people since their time in office. They have a lot of powerful friends, but these powerful friends really don't give a rat's ass about the actual well-being of the country. Now, if you're adamant about defending the Tories, I'm sure there's hundreds of examples of minor policy things they did that helped the British people since their time in office, but this ties in to Leo's video on Structure vs. Content. Getting too caught up in the tiny details of Tory governance (content) misses the point, since it's their structure (party for the elites, by the elites, at the expense of the rest of us) that's the problem. This is not to mention their ties to Russian money, US multinationals, Saudi despots, and so on.

Labour's policies are about actually making the UK a livable country again, using empirical tools to do so, as well as changing the structure of politics to better give the people a say in how their country is run (this is why they are so hated by big businesses and the Tories.) All of their economic policies are based on hard evidence, and have been shown to work in the countries they're implemented in. Funding hospitals, funding schools, giving worker's more rights in the workplace and so on is good, and Labour has the best chance of making this vision a reality.

As for Brexit, I'm neither here nor there. If it happens or it doesn't happen is irrelevant if the people in the country are broke, sick, unemployed and depressed. The most important thing for the people of Britain nowadays is to make it a liveable place again, and, in my best estimation, that's what Labour will help accomplish.

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3 hours ago, Apparition of Jack said:

First of all I'm not from the UK, so I can't speak to what life is like on the ground there, and what I'm about to write are just my own observations, so feel free to accept or reject them as you please, but from what I've seen on the news, from YouTube videos, and from some friends/family I have other there, life seems to have gotten a lot tougher and a lot greyer since the Tories got in around 10 years ago. This has been the result of years of austerity cuts and attacks on crucial public institutions, which has left British society much poorer as a result. Yes, some billionaires get to party with their mates in Dubai, but we're not talking about billionaires here, we're talking about the well-being of a country of tens of millions of people who have to live and work in the real world. This is also on top of the climate situation which isn't getting any better, and which needs to be dealt with if the UK wants to stave off the worse of the social/economic/cultural etc. damage that will result otherwise.

With all this in mind, a vote for the Tories is a vote for further decay. They are a party without any vision and a unhealthy lack of humanity, and have really screwed over the British people since their time in office. They have a lot of powerful friends, but these powerful friends really don't give a rat's ass about the actual well-being of the country. Now, if you're adamant about defending the Tories, I'm sure there's hundreds of examples of minor policy things they did that helped the British people since their time in office, but this ties in to Leo's video on Structure vs. Content. Getting too caught up in the tiny details of Tory governance (content) misses the point, since it's their structure (party for the elites, by the elites, at the expense of the rest of us) that's the problem. This is not to mention their ties to Russian money, US multinationals, Saudi despots, and so on.

Labour's policies are about actually making the UK a livable country again, using empirical tools to do so, as well as changing the structure of politics to better give the people a say in how their country is run (this is why they are so hated by big businesses and the Tories.) All of their economic policies are based on hard evidence, and have been shown to work in the countries they're implemented in. Funding hospitals, funding schools, giving worker's more rights in the workplace and so on is good, and Labour has the best chance of making this vision a reality.

As for Brexit, I'm neither here nor there. If it happens or it doesn't happen is irrelevant if the people in the country are broke, sick, unemployed and depressed. The most important thing for the people of Britain nowadays is to make it a liveable place again, and, in my best estimation, that's what Labour will help accomplish.

   Alright, that explains a lot. I've assumed you live here and hold labour strongly.

   I hold my politics loosely. I'm not strongly for the conservatives as we can sometimes have a few nasty right-wing people, it's just my upbringing is conservative. Yet the same is true for the extreme left. Ideally, I don't want the UK to turn into a state-operated like china, where we bend over way too much for foreigners and we become too collectivistic. We need better regulation.

   Fair enough. The UK is an island (136 islands). Being an island, there are limits on resource distribution. Europe, on the other hand, is a continent with enough space to allow more socio-political experiments onto the people. I just don't see the UK being dominated by left-wing politics. You really have to have the skill-sets of conservatives to maintain order in an island that's already about to suffer less and fewer places to live.

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3 hours ago, Michael569 said:

Corbyn is a clown but Johnson's materialistic ruthless vision for the UK will bring country 100 years back to times of industrial revolution. I'd rather have someone who is harmful than someone who can do some real damage like his "charming" counterpart in the US. In a globally connected world you CAN NOT isolate yourself. Don't forget that British owe it to their exploitation of the entire world hundred years ago for their wealth and economic boom. This is slowing down and under Johnson the country is going to suffer. 

As an foreign immigrant, I feel sorry for the people and their families who will be forced to live under this idiot's dominion if he gets in. Materialism and sole focus on GDP is destroying this planet. We need less of both and not more

   I agree that we need a better leader than Boris.

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4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Good luck Corbyn!

   Remember that the Russian counterparts, the socialists and the communists on the left, hate Corbyn. Even sharing the same left-wing ideology and still not liking Corbyn because of his extreme position already foreshadows how extreme he is. Yeah, good luck to Corbyn.

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It will be a hung parliament, I feel. I am very anxious for it, the outcome that is... They all suck though. Corbyn used to be a glimmer of hope but now has been beaten into submission by his own party, most of us in the UK know this, like how he used to be for leaving the EU, but now has been forced by his party to change his position.

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19 minutes ago, Light Lover said:

It will be a hung parliament, I feel. I am very anxious for it, the outcome that is... They all suck though. Corbyn used to be a glimmer of hope but now has been beaten into submission by his own party, most of us in the UK know this, like how he used to be for leaving the EU, but now has been forced by his party to change his position.

   That's true. He was actually beaten by some of his fanatical followers who have their own agenda of a 'better UK'. He recently was forced to fire a senior adviser who had a sensible plan for his economic policy all because he was not as radical as them. If elected, Corbyn, along with the extreme 'corbynistas' would be devastating for the UK. Boris Johnson is also not a good candidate for MP either, because he has a vision for the UK that's too materialistic and too narrow, feels like he's trying to emulate Trump. High chance for a hung parliament. I get the feeling if this keeps getting worse we might regress back to some form of monarchy and the queen would have to step in.

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Update: the conservatives are leading, almost more than half of the labour's votes. Stage orange is strong with this country! And so too is stage blue.

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Looks like Boris is about to wipe the Parliament floor with Corbyn ?

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I am not familiar with UK politics but based on what I've seen with Boris we can pretty much kiss any hope of UK pushing legit policies on climate change goodbye. At least for the foreseeable future.

Very sad day for UK and the world for that matter. 

The ironic thing is that the very policies that have pushed Britons to vote for a Brexit are the same set of policies that they continue to vote for. Similar to America, it seems a large segment of their population vote against their own best interest, suffers the consequences and then subsequently moves futher and further to the right after the fallout.

It all boils down to a lack education and consciousness at the end of the day. A nation can rise no further than the collective conscious of its people. And I am beginning to accept the reality that people get the government they deserve. 

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The Conservatives win with a majority, meaning they essentially have full power now for the next 5 years. If Trump wins next year, the next half decade will be a sorry state of affairs to say the least.

Whilst I didn't want Johnson in power, I didn't particularly like Corbyn either. He didn't have a strong enough vision and isn't a powerful leader imo. And of course his Brexit plan was too vague and wishy washy. If he had just laid out a simple clear plan for Brexit, he may have had a chance of winning. 


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@Space  Un-fucking believable today I have lost a huge amount of respect for the people of this country. You are totally right about Corbyn and your analysis is spot on, he had the opportunity to win if he just grew some balls and took a position in the EU debate, lost alot of respect for him as well. Now we are stuck with these scumbags for the next 5 years...very disheartening news. 

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16 hours ago, abundance said:

I am not familiar with UK politics but based on what I've seen with Boris we can pretty much kiss any hope of UK pushing legit policies on climate change goodbye. At least for the foreseeable future.

Very sad day for UK and the world for that matter. 

The ironic thing is that the very policies that have pushed Britons to vote for a Brexit are the same set of policies that they continue to vote for. Similar to America, it seems a large segment of their population vote against their own best interest, suffers the consequences and then subsequently moves futher and further to the right after the fallout.

It all boils down to a lack education and consciousness at the end of the day. A nation can rise no further than the collective conscious of its people. And I am beginning to accept the reality that people get the government they deserve. 

   Very true.

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22 minutes ago, Light Lover said:

@Space  Un-fucking believable today I have lost a huge amount of respect for the people of this country. You are totally right about Corbyn and your analysis is spot on, he had the opportunity to win if he just grew some balls and took a position in the EU debate, lost alot of respect for him as well. Now we are stuck with these scumbags for the next 5 years...very disheartening news. 

   Corbyn is a good example of what a stage green individuals look like when they haven't integrated stage orange values and tactics. Too ideological and too little mastery of rational and planning. Now he declares an early retirement for himself. A shining example of what not to become.

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