Aaron p

One way to discern authenticity within gurus and teachers

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This is a serious video with a few cool insights regarding authenticity and how to tell when a teacher is authentic. This also not the only way one might discern authenticity, but it's still something to legitimately contemplate. 6 mins long, lots of good content, lots to contemplate, give her a watch;

 

I've been a focused practisioner for 11 months and these are authentically experienced insights of my own. Exploring the highest forms of thinking. 👌🏼 

When the ego feels no need to protect the teachings it will only be bold about it. Boldness is a sign of authenticity. Looking humble enlarges the ego. Being authentic and bold will naturally attract people who will truly be fit for enlightenment.

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I think even if you don't give a fuck anymore, its still wise to be kind and gentle because it relaxes the ego that you are trying to teach. Of course some egos need a heavy hand. And so not every teacher is for everyone. I would personally prefer a bit of both. 


My Imagination is a Monastery and I am its Monk- John Keats

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Is english your first language? I had a hard time understanding your english. 

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3 minutes ago, Angelite said:

Is english your first language? I had a hard time understanding your english. 

It's British lol.


Everything is an assumption.

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Sorry guys it didn't post correctly. Enjoy and drop some opinions down

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@Angelite

37 minutes ago, Angelite said:

Is english your first language? I had a hard time understanding your english. 

I'm northern Irish bro

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should we really try to recognize authenticity in others? Is it not always going to depend on our own interpretations? Maybe it is wiser to reflect on why we resonate with certain teachers more than others and why see something as more authentic than something else 

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@DrewNows

9 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

should we really try to recognize authenticity in others? Is it not always going to depend on our own interpretations? Maybe it is wiser to reflect on why we resonate with certain teachers more than others and why see something as more authentic than something else 

It's too dangerous to turn it into a "good works" religious group where everyone pretends to be happy. That's how religions easily start

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You can't stop religions from forming. It will happen in the natural order of things. Just as resisting the formation of religions. It will all happen naturally, just let it flow as it should. 


My Imagination is a Monastery and I am its Monk- John Keats

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6 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

@DrewNows

It's too dangerous to turn it into a "good works" religious group where everyone pretends to be happy. That's how religions easily start

I see your point. Only the individual knows if they are pretending...what I’m asking is if you can see why someone (meaning you)  could be authentically caring/loving/compassionate, and what value this may hold for others 

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48 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

I see your point. Only the individual knows if they are pretending...what I’m asking is if you can see why someone (meaning you)  could be authentically caring/loving/compassionate, and what value this may hold for others 

@DrewNows definitely mate. What I'm pointing out is you don't need to be weak and timid to be loving and compassionate. And commonly, the more unrestricted you are the more understanding and loving you are to. Sometimes the biggest, most fierce giant has the biggest heart. That is the true kind. 

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14 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

@DrewNows definitely mate. What I'm pointing out is you don't need to be weak and timid to be loving and compassionate. And commonly, the more unrestricted you are the more understanding and loving you are to. Sometimes the biggest, most fierce giant has the biggest heart. That is the true kind. 

Exactly. Love is needless and undefinable 

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25 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

Exactly. Love is needless and undefinable 

@DrewNows 🔥

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@Aaron p Great vid there mate. I feel that everyone falls into that trap when starting spirituality. However, religion/cults form from blind beliefs, misinterpretation and misunderstanding of insights/understanding of someone who had/has these insights/understanding. I don't really imagine pretending to be nice, happy and kind can start a religion as these are all, if faked, unsustainable. Although you might be right.😊

You say enlightened masters don't give a fuck, meaning they aren't fabricating anything in their experience. That doesn't mean that they somehow do not give a fuck about your feelings or anything in general. This wouldn't really make sense. Your personality is what doesn't give a fuck about anything else but itself.

And Aaron, how do you know that Sadhguru is enlightened?

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I didn't have a chance to watch the whole video, sorry - love your accent btw - just wanted to add, a great way to find out if a teacher/seeker/anyone is legit is to follow your gut.  I can respect a teacher/seeker that is open about aspects of their shadow, but if it is something that I can see that isn't addressed - it makes me uneasy, as I tend to communicate with people from their authentic selves.

Some examples - I used to follow this person on Youtube, but not really that closely because the material was too boring - they had a guest party for a few weeks and some subscribers of theirs attended - I saw a young man, who had not spoken a word, was part of their party - he was looking nervously at his drink whenever the camera passed by, he was cute - so I said something.  Wasn't interested - not interested in young dudes - just wanted him to feel attractive - anyways, within that 30 second period, I knew that he must have been with some crazy women who were in their 30's.  No indication of this - I just knew it - it was confirmed when he talked about himself in another video.
Now, if I had said something like, "You seem like a person who attracts women out of your age range who are unstable."  And he denied it; that would have thrown me for a loop.

At the same party, I knew another person was cheating on their boyfriend and sleeping around.  There was not very much context to know this other than the person just being themselves in some livestreams - and some pattern processing on my end - I didn't even really pay attention to it.  I knew that this person would cause drama, how they would do it, the psychological reasons behind it.  If I had said something like, "I get the impression that you are going to cause drama at this party because you grew up with a helicopter parent and you are simultaneously a selfish person who relies on external sources of gratification - someone who intensely wears people for a while, but does not want to see this aspect of the self, so you will gaslight in an attempt to remove yourself from a situation where you feel that boundaries you never took the time to make are being crossed."  Something like that would be denied.

If you're a person who notices authenticity in others, don't let folks try to invalidate it - it means you're observant.  I feel that is a good thing.


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 This is where sadhguru talks about the aghori, one sect within Hinduism, who express zero regard for morality or good works and yet are devoted to finding the self

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Well sure. All morals and good works is is social conditioning. It's not fundamental. Personality types has nothing to do with enlightenment.

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@karkaore

On 7/19/2019 at 11:20 PM, karkaore said:

Well sure. All morals and good works is is social conditioning. It's not fundamental. Personality types has nothing to do with enlightenment.

Not only that my friend, religious "good works" schemes are Satanic! It's the ego's attempt to reach God! By measuring himself using "good and evil." Notice, what was the name of the tree in the garden of Eden that Adam and Eve ate from that condemned humanity? Look it up. There were 2 trees. 

Trying to be like God via "good and evil" is what separated humanity from God in the first place. Religion is Satan's distraction and perversion. Do not include any kind of positive or negative morality within your spirituality.

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