Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

[ryandesreu]

 

 

 The second video is a more recent interview. It's hard to tell if she climbed to yellow but she has definitely recognized the toxic parts of her past and found a healthier way of dealing with conflict.

 

 

 

[lostingenosmaze]

 

[Nightshenroth]

Hello everyone,

This is my first post. I am a meloman and I wanted to add to this megathread a couple of bands that I listen to that are definitely in the Green (most of these are metal/rock):

 

1. Disturbed - I feel like they definitely had shades of green throughout their whole discography, but the 2015 album Immortalized is as green as it can be and the following albums and singles reflect that.

2. System of a Down - even from their beginnings they tried to gather awareness of injustices in the prison systems in the US, the armenian genocide, suicide, war, drugs and a lot more.

3. Metallica - their first albums are a bit more raw and might have a lot of aggression and “Red” in them, I think songs like “Fade to Black”, “Creeping death”, “For whom the bell tolls” are definitely a cut above. For example, on the “Master of puppets” album I think they tackle a lot of social issues like drugs (“Master of puppets”) , mental illness and the whole messed up system with mental treatments in the 80’s ("Welcome Home (Sanitarium)"), war and how the soldiers are treated ("Disposable Heroes") and calling out the hypocrisy of religion ("Leper Messiah"). "...And Justice for All" was another album that had a very green feel with themes like justice, war, truth and social norms, and mental illness again. The ending track, "Dyers Eve", is a very clear rebellion against “Blue” and “Orange”. Throughout the rest of the discography green themes are present.

4. Rage Against the Machine - I don’t even think I need to go into this one.

 

I'm sure there are much more bands like this, so if you want to add some similar stuff feel free to do so.

[lostingenosmaze]

Will Smith pledges to support wife Jada for 'rest of his life' after seperation bombshell

https://youtu.be/V6EZopqolSU?si=s2IZXJoLslVbhW88

[Zest4Life]

How to trigger stage green; this video is hilarious.
 

 

[Bernardo Carleial]

 

[Bernardo Carleial]

I love the nativité of young socialists in modern society. 

"Why You Should become a Socialist: because Capitalism is Wrong"

And spending an entire video telling about the wrongdoings of Capitalism without providing any real solution of how to solve that under a Socialist government, he didn't even mention some of the policies of Eastern European countries that tend to skew into a more socialist orientation, and how it can be "actualizable" into more populated countries, like the the U.S for example...

I'm not saying that a Socialist Government  will not work, I honestly don't know that. But the way that he presented that information it's just propaganda.

[Raze]

Edited January 3 by Raze

[Bernardo Carleial]

 

[Raze]

 

[aurum]

A fantastic example of Green (David Pakman) doing a takedown of Blue religiosity.

Key Memes: Secularism, Moral / Ethical Relativism, Scientific Progress, Rationality

 

You could argue this is Tier 2 thinking from Joe Rogan, but I'm not so sure. For me, it lacks the true Spiral Wizardly of a solidly Tier 2 take. But he does correctly identify some of the issues with Green / Orange rationalism.

Regardless, Pakman's take is essentially textbook Rational Green / Orange. He describes how secularism can work, religion is quaint and people can generate their own moral compass in life. 

[ZenSwift]

Let me know your thoughts on this one. 

 

[numbersinarow]

 

[Raze]

 

[Danioover9000]

   Great example of a biased person using stage green values and relativism, and polyamorous relationships to organically farm drama and stir drama while also carefully sell narratives, slander and defame and misinform, but not enough that it's a legal issue. This person is actually more stage orange mostly with some blue and green values:

   Again it's interesting because if you look at the following factors:

Cognition development: Mostly linear with some non-linear pathways, more box and categorical thinking on the x-axis more so than on the y-axis. Speed and fast paced speech patterns linguistically shows his bias for words and music than images. Also due to Destiny proclaim neuro divergent brain and in the autism spectrum this effects his cognitive processes.

Morality development: self centric, ego centric circle of concern. More headspace activity, logical understanding and bias than heart space empathy, also higher sex gonad/libido drive manifested through heated argumentation and open relationship pursuits.

psychology and personality development: moderate in open mindedness and higher in close mindedness depending on situation, orderly and organized when thinking and arguing/debating but higher in chaos/disorganization in relationships, more introversion than extroversion, higher on disagreeableness and lower in agreeableness, higher neuroticism, higher narcissism, higher sociopathic traits, able to self induce apathy/psychopathic states. 

Ego development: Opportunist ego stage of development. Opportunist egos tend to capitalize on opportunities, and are similar to scammers, con artists, swindlers, grifters, fraudsters, hustlers, forgers, liars, sales people et cetera.

Ideological background and biases: Cuban/American bias and American exceptionalism, western values and western culture bias, catholic bias, music bias, money/transaction/finance bias, numbers and logic bias, online gaming bias, win at all costs bias, arguing/debating bias, Republican/conservative bias, liberal/Democracy bias, capitalism bias, categorical thinking bias, linear bias. These and many more form his confirmation biases and potential cognitive dissonances.

[Raze]

 

[Raze]

 

Edited March 31 by Raze

[kguirnela]

 

[ryandesreu]

I enjoyed watching this documentary, and incorporating minimalism has improved my life.

[Raze]