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Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

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Scott Galloway

His knowledge base is massive. He talks to/from stages blue, orange, and green without exclusively cherishing their perspectives on repeat. He also makes good critiques of them by stating facts and surgically pulling out the consequences — good or bad — then applying conscious moral judgements to them. He represents a "healthy" version of capitalism. He cares about more than just his tribe, be it family, country, ideology, or humanity.

Can't say what his views are in the spiritual dimension though. Otherwise, a solid, current example of SD Yellow.

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All of the stage yellow values perfectly apply to Marxism-Leninism except dialectical idealism


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23 hours ago, Cred said:

All of the stage yellow values perfectly apply to Marxism-Leninism except dialectical idealism

No. Why would you think that?

And the core of this dialectic, the one he brought from Hegel, is the most vMEME Yellow theory possible (Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis)

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@Bernardo Carleial What is your point? Bc if it is "ML is not stage yellow" than you have given the reason why the opposite is true yourself.


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7 hours ago, Cred said:

@Bernardo Carleial What is your point? Bc if it is "ML is not stage yellow" than you have given the reason why the opposite is true yourself.

Even though Lenin had a vision for a model of government beyond the monarchy.  

The way he implemented was at cost of human blood in a period called the red terror. Until it finally Unified at 1922, which became the U.S.S.R. he indeed improved the lives of many in the working class, but his project also took a lot of land from peasants, confiscated by the regime and to benefit a small local businessmen.

 

Lenin also took power by force, even after the revolution was done, when his party lost the election. 

 

His model also is not "spiral aware" of all the values that the nation has, which is why even though Lenin modernized the country with his New Economic Policies, as soon as he died, and someone took his power, which in this case was Stalin, who was a power hungry man, the entire well being (and livelihood) of the entire population was put at stake  for economic growth and centralized power.

 

We don't have clear definitions of vMEME Yellow governments yet, but some glimpses of that may be found in world or continental organizations like the UN or the EU , which has a bad reputation from time to time, precisely because is a power that deals with a plurality of interests ,and collaboration of many different agents in order to work.

It can be messy, but it is like this because there is no centralized force, and can still be prosperous and share common interests while keeping the autonomy at their territories. 

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On 4/12/2026 at 9:19 PM, integration journey said:

Simple but feels like stage yellow.

NGL, each character from the Boondocks represents a specific stage.

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This guy "Muhammad Yunus" is an example of approaching a social complex problem with systems thinking, and it earned him a Nobel peace prize.

He created a system of small loans for poor people without collateral, using group accountability and weekly repayments instead of legal enforcement. He redesigned lending so social pressure and access to future credit made repayment the default behavior, not punishment. 

He created Grameen Bank, where loans are given without collateral, but inside a tightly designed system: small groups of borrowers, weekly meetings, incremental loans, and shared accountability. Repayment isn’t enforced by legal pressure, but by social structure and continuous access to future credit. He literally architected trust based on the system's behavior. 

He didn’t solve poverty by giving aid, charity or blaming individuals or reality, instead he redesigned the system that was producing exclusion in the first place. Instead of treating poor people as “high-risk borrowers,” he rebuilt the lending structure around how people actually behave in real social environments.

This shifts the system from punishment-based enforcement to trust-based feedback loops. It also aligns incentives: repayment becomes the easiest way to maintain access, and group dynamics reinforce stability.

The result wasn’t just financial inclusion, it was a self-sustaining ecosystem where normal human behavior leads to economic progress. and repayment rates reported to be around 95–98%, which is fucking huge. 

I'm really impressed and inspired.

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