Post Enlightenment Observations

[Ether]

@Shanmugam how is ur marriage? arent u scared of your wife knowing you on an enlightenment forum? xddddddddd

[Shanmugam]

Just now, Ether said:

@Shanmugam how is ur marriage? arent u scared of your wife knowing you on an enlightenment forum? xddddddddd

She already knows that I write on forums, blogs etc.. What is so scary about that? 

[Ether]

@Shanmugam just testing your enlightenment xddddddd (jk)

 

i have been feeling a lot more free recently. but i still have a habit of not showing my dad what im doing on pc\\tv. it must be a fear from childhood

[Shanmugam]

2 minutes ago, Ether said:

@Shanmugam just testing your enlightenment xddddddd (jk)

 

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 That was too offensive and insulting!!! I just got unenlightened 

Now I have to start all over again!!! 

[Shin]

23 minutes ago, Ether said:

@Shanmugam just testing your enlightenment xddddddd (jk)

 

i have been feeling a lot more free recently. but i still have a habit of not showing my dad what im doing on pc\\tv. it must be a fear from childhood

You sure you have NO idea why this could be a thing ? 

@Shanmugam Spiritual relapsed : Return back to the seeking. 

@Shanmugam that's so narcissistic 

Edited February 27, 2018 by Shin

[Shanmugam]

11 minutes ago, Shin said:

@Shanmugam Spiritual relapsed : Return back to the seeking. 

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Yeah... I am going to read my own book.. 

[Ether]

15 minutes ago, Shin said:

You sure you have NO idea why this could be a thing ? 

@Shanmugam Spiritual relapsed : Return back to the seeking. 

well,i dont watch porn when my dad is here oool

@Shanmugam From seeker to enlightened to seekrer hahaha

[Nothing000]

1 hour ago, Shanmugam said:

 That was too offensive and insulting!!! I just got unenlightened 

Now I have to start all over again!!! 

You're an enlightened being, sir ?

[Nothing000]

6 hours ago, Nahm said:

@Nothing000 Appreciating your compassion and sensitivity.  ❤️

Thank you 

 

New here to this forum. Find it fascinating.

[Shanmugam]

5 minutes ago, Nothing000 said:

You're an enlightened being, sir ?

Here is how I describe my experience in my bio on my blog:

"I feel complete, satisfied and one with existence without any duality, without a sense of an ‘other’. There is no feeling of an independent existence; I feel limitless with absolutely no conflict and my life flows like a river. I still retain imperfections, my genetic traits and I am completely fallible. This way of living is quite ordinary and simpler than how enlightenment is usually described. There is an innocence of a child in my experience of consciousness". 

[Ether]

@ShanmugamFeeling like a kid is magic, right?

I still can remember...

[Nothing000]

2 minutes ago, Shanmugam said:

Here is how I describe my experience in my bio on my blog:

"I feel complete, satisfied and one with existence without any duality, without a sense of an ‘other’. There is no feeling of an independent existence; I feel limitless with absolutely no conflict and my life flows like a river. I still retain imperfections, my genetic traits and I am completely fallible. This way of living is quite ordinary and simpler than how enlightenment is usually described. There is an innocence of a child in my experience of consciousness". 

Thank you for that.

[Shanmugam]

Just now, Ether said:

@ShanmugamFeeling like a kid is magic, right?

I still can remember...

If I compare to how I was living four years before, this is indeed priceless.. 

[Ether]

@Shanmugam

 

[Shanmugam]

@Nothing000 you are welcome  

[SOUL]

1 hour ago, Shanmugam said:

What makes you be so sure that I got 'offended'?

Well, nearly every conversation we have you are referencing past conversations and repeatedly focusing on words or phrases I used in our conversations. You even weave them into pretend conversations you create with a mocking tone and have repeatedly posted into threads. So how else am I supposed to interpret that?

Even though I have asked you to just let it go time again you don't want to leave it be, you keep revisiting it with accusatory language as if I wronged you somehow. This is why I suspect it offended you, if it didn't then just let it go already. Let's move on from the past and create a fresh dynamic in the present! Can you do this with me?

1 hour ago, Shanmugam said:

The accusations, as far as I am concerned, are as simple as stating my observations.. I am actually very interested and curious to hear your experience and perspective.. Can you elaborate more on your perspectives? (I already read that you wrote about how you got over your childhood trauma)

Ok, I can recognize that you see them as your "observations" but it doesn't make it truth or fact, just an observation in your perception. Just like you say you aren't offended and I will accept your word on it please consider that what you think you observe may not be as you think it is about me.

You once asked me to tell you something about me and I replied with it. If you ask specific questions I may explain but don't have any expectation that I will, I share as I see fit.

1 hour ago, Shanmugam said:

I have gained through my experience from a seeker to who I am right now and based on many agreed upon consensus, I am just saying the best thing that I can. What I say is very simple. Unless one solves his own problem first, he may not be able to help someone else in solving the same problem.

I understand that, we all gain through our experience, that's how life works but I'm not seeing that consensus, we all have different experiences and we have differing perspectives from that. How could we possibly have any consensus in an infinite absolute? All we can hope for is to peaceably coexist.

The problem I have been dealing with is people making assumptions about something being "wrong" with me based on their own observations and attempting to give me grief about it. All I'm doing is what I can to find a way to let the past go and peaceably coexist.

1 hour ago, Shanmugam said:

I can't laugh based on what you think in your mind, I am not a mind reader. 

I just said laugh if you find something funny and we can laugh together, I didn't say laugh based on what I think is funny. You actually aren't as a mind reader if that's what you thought I said instead of what I really said.

Although, please I simply say to you just let it go...let's be present. Peaceably coexist in the present moment.

[Shanmugam]

 

@SOUL  I think there is a major difference between us. Based on my observation, you seem to be very strict in word usage (and based on how you define 'belief', this is just a belief). And The way I use the words is entirely different. I think we may have a very different perspective on this, based on our experiences.  

Let us forget about the word 'absolute' for a moment. When I have gone through many reports of awakening, I have recognized exact similarities between the way they are described and the way I experience the reality every moment. This is especially true in how Vedanta describes it in many of the books I have gone through. It was an automatic recognition that didn't involve any kind of analysis or thought process. 

In fact, I was very reluctant to call my experience 'enlightenment'. I think a few of the members of this forum know this. My only intention in even starting to write on my blog was that I want to share what I found in my life experience. Many of the things are coming from how I lived my life as a seeker and what kind of traps I went through. Of course, this is not going to be the same for everyone. But at least, I am aware of some basic patterns of human behavior which I also got confirmed through my study of psychology.

The reason why I brought up our past conversation was that I was actually very curious about you and what you were really trying to say. But since some of the questions that I asked you were unaddressed (or probably I failed to notice them when you had addressed), I was bringing up the past conversation again. We can drop that right now since you have clarified many things recently. 

[Nothing000]

Shanmugam and Soul are very entertaining lol.

 

I hope that's not taken offensively. ❤

[Shanmugam]

3 minutes ago, Nothing000 said:

Shanmugam and Soul are very entertaining lol.

 

I hope that's not taken offensively. ❤

 I like this conversation too and I have bookmarked it. It will be an interesting experience to read the same conversation after a couple of months. 

[Nothing000]

1 minute ago, Shanmugam said:

 I like this conversation too and I have bookmarked it. It will be an interesting experience to read the same conversation after a couple of months. 

I think so too