Quitting Weed

[Vipassana]

Been a habitual smoker for about 2 years. Went through a lot of deception and now I am finally ready to give the plant the respect it deserves and stop abusing it. I have some mushrooms left and im planning to take it to introspect this addiction and conquer it. Basically playing the victim game and stalling out the clock until i sabotage myself which then might extrinsically motivate me to quit but that is a recipe for deception. If you guys have any advice on how to take a methodical approach and make the most out of this sacred experience.

[Slade]

@Vipassana go where your mind doesn’t want to go. 

[Vipassana]

@Slade im planning to take it then sit for meditation 

[deci belle]

Why is eating mushrooms being taken into account in terms of facing the recognized obsession with weed, Vipassana?

 

 

[Vipassana]

@deci belle good question. maybe i just want another distraction since im gonna be sober

[deci belle]

hmmmmm.

[SgtPepper]

IME, psychedelics are helpful with addictions, so taking mushrooms may not be a bad idea. I do not really know how one can distract themselves on mushrooms, not being honest or authentic is difficult.

[Sri Ramana Maharshi]

1 hour ago, Vipassana said:

Been a habitual smoker for about 2 years. Went through a lot of deception and now I am finally ready to give the plant the respect it deserves and stop abusing it. I have some mushrooms left and im planning to take it to introspect this addiction and conquer it. Basically playing the victim game and stalling out the clock until i sabotage myself which then might extrinsically motivate me to quit but that is a recipe for deception. If you guys have any advice on how to take a methodical approach and make the most out of this sacred experience.

I'm in a similar boat except 6 years and about 1000 bux worth a month (naturally I mostly got top grade for free every day). We're talking 5 grams a day for 6 years straight. It didn't seem to prevent making it all the way to S.U.N. though, but now life and practice requires me to put it down for a while, perhaps forever. Or at least until the compulsion to manipulate myself to do it and overlap buzzes, etc. is broken.

After 5 days of total abstinance you at the 1st 1/2 life of THC, meaning 1/2 is out of your system. 10 days later you are at 1/4 THC in the body. 15 days later 1/8th, 20 days 1/16th and so on. After that 5 days you are home free physically. If you truly a Vipassana practitioner who has broken the "solidity" of the object (Udayabaya Nyana/A&P) then you may go through a mini (or major dukkha nana or even full ReObs upon going cold turkey). This was the case here. That's good for you and there is a lot of Insight there. Trust me...or don't and find out for yourself.

Opinions vary on smoking and meditation, so please remain flexible to what may be best for you and understand that you don't know and feeling guilty about what your character/body/life does could be another trap, and have nothing to do with realization. Then again, if you can't help worrying, you *will* sabotage or extend your path. Cannabis does provide lots of vibrations/sensation for investigation, but they are course, and could prevent eventual phala...but you don't know for sure.

Once you have a few months away from Cannabis cold turkey, then perhaps you can find you will be able to use it in moderation and achieve kensho (especially with a 100% Sativa, as some have found). But I wouldn't rely on a drug for Kensho too much if I were you. State dependancy is the most common outcome and it ain't enlightenment, no matter what bald goatee'd fool tells you. hahaha

[Vipassana]

@Sri Ramana Maharshi Thank you so much that was perfectly explained. 

[tyy]

@Vipassana Throw out any paraphernalia you can get high with. I would say that was probably the step that helped me the most. Get clean off of the weed and then use your mushrooms in a fresher state with personal development goals in mind. 

[Forestluv]

In several clinical studies, psychedelics have been shown effective therapy for addictions for some people. As well, psychedelics have very low dependency/addiction potential. I've been able to use them for both introspection and fun without negative consequence. Yet, weed and alcohol are highly habit forming to me and I need to stay away.

[pluto]

There is a wise saying: Smoke weed, don't let weed smoke you

[Joseph Maynor]

The only way to quit booze or weed is to stop completely.  Total cessation.  You are not strong enough to flirt with the Devil part time, although the tricky Mind likes to say that.  Experience.  You gotta get off the pot forever.  Say goodbye to your little friend.  I know it’s hard.

Edited February 9, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[GrowingUp]

Get comfortable with being uncomfortable. We use substances to distract ourselves from our psychological pain (painful emotions) - but here's the crazy part... Our brain creates the pain in the first place by adding meaning to circumstances - and then it launches into action thinking "Pain is imminent. I need to avoid this pain!" That message comes from the chimp mind - our limbic system - so we distract ourselves with weed, alcohol, food, etc. - anything to drown out the psychological pain.

The way out is through. Meaning - you simply stop avoiding your psychological pain and start feeling it fully. You practice feeling whatever it was you were avoiding - and get comfortable with being uncomfortable. When you can sit in loneliness, sadness, depression, anger, self-loathing - without resisting or distracting - you train your brain to realize you can feel any emotion without "death". And you also learn that once you allow your emotions without resisting or distracting - they start to flow a bit freer. Meaning - when you let go of resisting anxiety, you actually allow anxiety to do what it wants - which often is to flow out when your thoughts change. As you stop resisting/distracting - your emotions and thoughts begin to flow and change and you don't get so caught up in fear about them.

I simply mention this as a method - because I've seen people successfully drop one addiction - to simply pick up another. They thought their main goal was to "quit weed" - but in quitting weed, they simply started distracting themselves with food or social media or porn. Your goal isn't to quit weed. It's to stop distracting yourself from your psychological pain altogether and start being okay with your full human experience. Once you're okay with you - there's no reason to distract with anything.